proving homosexuality has a biological cause

[JMorris]

WHAT? How dare you be so rude. Im not here at your invitation, and I don't need your permission to voice my opinions about religion ON A RELIGIOUS FORUM

OKAY.

I know people on a religious forum have different religious belifes but I damn well allowed to have mine as much as they are allowed to have theirs.

Oh and bleive you me mister I am very used to contending with GOD hating, bible hating, Christian hating people, more than used to it. Okay so get out of my face.

You leave!

WHat posses some people - God give me strength. Mate you top the bill of a rude welcome to a froum, Il give you the prize for that. Good work.

coming from such a wonderful person such as yourself, that is quite a compliment, you have my thanks

and you can continue to yell your insane rants on as many threads as you like, but your going to find few people who are going to go along with your crap. and for someone so concerned about "GOD hating, bible hating, christian hating people" you sure dont do alot to make people feel differently.

thankfully here at RF, sane, warm, & level-headed christians far out number your kind. and your kind generally dont last long. so by all means, hurry and get all your insane rants out of your system, break the rules out right, get banned, so we can all get on with our lives and forget about you.

 

[jam.bar]

Sodomy is anal sex, or buggery - it' is wrong - its filthy. Just becuase it feels good to some, doesnt make it healthy.

Eating chocolate and burgers all day isn't healthy, that doesn't make it wrong. Why do you care so much if someone is gay?

F.Y.I I don't think homosexuality is unhealthy.

 

[sevenz]

how exactly is aids transmitted primarily by homosexuals when it is heterosexuals primarily infected with the disease?

Umm it spread. Hello?

 

[sevenz]

Eating chocolate and burgers all day isn't healthy, that doesn't make it wrong. Why do you care so much if someone is gay?

F.Y.I I don't think homosexuality is unhealthy.

Why do you care what I think?

 

[jam.bar]

Why do you care what I think?

Because it's interesting.

 

[sevenz]

Of course you are allowed to have yours. It is a matter of attitude, not of faith.

And for the record, I do not hate God, the Bible or Christians.

Good.

 

[sevenz]

Because it's interesting.

Good answer - go to the top of the class.

I dont care if someone is guy - But I am intersted in the topic of why they say or think they are gay and why they are telling me to believe this. Is that okay with you?

PS if something isnt healthy then it's wrong IE unhealthy IE not good IE leading to an early death IE bad

 

[enchanted_one1975]

Why is so much time and effort constantly being put into "curing" homosexuality when it is not a problem? If you do not like same sex intimacy, don't take part in it. Stop trying to convert the rest of the world to your lifestyle.

 

[jam.bar]

I dont care if someone is guy - But I am intersted in the topic of why they say or think they are gay and why they are telling me to believe this. Is that okay with you?

I don't fully get what you mean here. Do you mean why you should believe that gay people are gay?

PS if something isnt healthy then it's wrong IE unhealthy IE not good IE leading to an early death IE bad

Not really. Wrong and unhealthy don't mean the same thing. If someone is born with a disease, it's not their fault. They are not wrong for doing so.
I've just eaten a chocolate bar and a bag of crisps which are considered unhealthy. I'm not wrong for doing that.
Also, if homosexuals have sex with a condom then it's no longer unhealthy. Problem solved.

 

[sevenz]

i realize i'm dragging up some older posts but... Damn.

who are you to say whether people love each other or not? That's the most presumptuous, arrogant thing i've ever heard.

wow...ever heard ever? Do i get points for that??

so what if it is a choice. Who are you to say that your personal choice is correct for everyone.

im not, im saying it's a choice.

i like vanilla ice cream and you like chocolate but i'm right so you should eat vanilla ice cream or no ice cream. Chocolate is a sin, it's dirty and disgusting. As for virginity being a choice this isn't always the case, i mean look at you.

huh. Look at me, what do you mean? Tres bizzare

hey, most of the gay guys i know are football players and i'm not ashamed to say that they are manlier than i am as a straight man. Effeminate gays are a stereotype all too common on tv and i don't approve either. The fact remains that you can change the channel. This is kinda like saying "why is golf so in my face on tv? With its own channel and all the other sports channels covering it?"

mate the other night they where on every chanell at the same time all night. Why? Its being pushed, no doubt about about it. Stop watching the hellivision people.

your brother is gay and you are still this stupid? Tell him to slap you for me.

my best mate is gay too. Im noty a homo phobe. Im dicussing an issue here - try and keep it real - less drama queen

oh, all gays are promiscuous sex addicts with no control over themselves. Dammit, you're right!!! Why didn't i see it before!!! Oh my god, you are a clever one. Those sneaky gays tried to pull the wool over your eyes by fighting for the right to get married but you saw right through it. I wish i was as insightful as you are.

i dont have an issue with them getting legally bound but married? Thats a laugh. Marriage is a christian ceremony. In nz there was massive fight for gays to get legal righst to marry, when the bill went through did gays rush to get married in the thousands, hah no, hardly nay of them did or has.

you know what? I take back what i said before. This is the most presumptuous, arrogant thing i have ever heard. You don't have to be gay to be promiscuous and if you can't see that you are literally too stupid to live.

great more points then is it?
I wish i had an emoticon that flipped people off.:computer:

nice?

 

[Madhuri]

Good answer - go to the top of the class.

I dont care if someone is guy - But I am intersted in the topic of why they say or think they are gay and why they are telling me to believe this. Is that okay with you?

PS if something isnt healthy then it's wrong IE unhealthy IE not good IE leading to an early death IE bad

If a person has aids then they shouldnt have sex. If a person is free of disease then they are not causing early death. Plenty of homosexuals who have lead a long happy and healthy life.

I feel sympathy for homosexuals. Imagine being born with a natural disposition and having the world hate you for it. People have been just as ignorant of other things which have lead to racism, sexism and so on. I truly believe that homosexuality is something that is innate in the individual, just as heterosexuality is. I cannot imagine being attracted to the same sex, but that doesn't mean I automatically assume it's wrong or abnormal. I don't like to judge too quickly either. I'd rather give the benefit of the doubt than assume something that I could be wrong about because being wrong would mean that I have contributed to the suffering of a people treated unjustly.

 

[sevenz]

I don't fully get what you mean here. Do you mean why you should believe that gay people are gay?



Not really. Wrong and unhealthy don't mean the same thing. If someone is born with a disease, it's not their fault. They are not wrong for doing so.
I've just eaten a chocolate bar and a bag of crisps which are considered unhealthy. I'm not wrong for doing that.
Also, if homosexuals have sex with a condom then it's no longer unhealthy. Problem solved.

If you ate crisps and chocolate all day long it would be bad for you, you know that stop being silly. Promiscoous sex with many partners gay or staright is not healthy one pays the price emotionally and spirtually.

The topic of the thread is Biological poof of homosexuality okay einstein, Im intersted in the topic. Can we dscuss it?

 

[Madhuri]

If you ate crisps and chocolate all day long it would be bad for you, you know that stop being silly. Promiscoous sex with many partners gay or staright is not healthy one pays the price emotionally and spirtually.

I do agree with this. I would add -psychologically-.

 

[blackout]

Hey sevenz... as the expert on how people should and shouldn't share their sexuality...
what's the ruling on oral sex? :flirt:

 

[sevenz]

If a person has aids then they shouldnt have sex. If a person is free of disease then they are not causing early death. Plenty of homosexuals who have lead a long happy and healthy life.

I feel sympathy for homosexuals. Imagine being born with a natural disposition and having the world hate you for it. People have been just as ignorant of other things which have lead to racism, sexism and so on. I truly believe that homosexuality is something that is innate in the individual, just as heterosexuality is. I cannot imagine being attracted to the same sex, but that doesn't mean I automatically assume it's wrong or abnormal. I don't like to judge too quickly either. I'd rather give the benefit of the doubt than assume something that I could be wrong about because being wrong would mean that I have contributed to the suffering of a people treated unjustly.

My brother is gay and I know why he is gay and it has everything to do with the relationship tha he had with his parents and the family dynamic. EVERYTHING It is not in nate it is the result of erotising the male male weakness of the father figure and a smothering mother that leads to men having homosexual urges at puberty.
Sexual promiscuity in straight men can be related to apoor relationship with the mother. There is documented proof of this. There is scientific bilogical proof that it is innate from birth.

 

[sevenz]

Hey sevenz... as the expert on how people should and shouldn't share their sexuality...
what's the ruling on oral sex? :flirt:

Im not an expert on anything

 

[jam.bar]

If you ate crisps and chocolate all day long it would be bad for you, you know that stop being silly. Promiscoous sex with many partners gay or staright is not healthy one pays the price emotionally and spirtually.

The topic of the thread is Biological poof of homosexuality okay einstein, Im intersted in the topic. Can we dscuss it?

You're a feisty one aren't you. I never said all day. I said a bag of. Just one. Whilst one won't do me any harm, they are still considered an unhealthy food. I know it might sound argumeantative but you're saying unhealthy and wrong are the same thing. They're not.

But you're right Newton. We should stay on topic.

I have no idea if you can biologically prove homosexuality. As for it being a life choice or whether you're born with, I don't know that either. I don't think people can control their sexual preferences which would lean more to being born with it, but I still havn't made up my mind fully yet. I will have to look into it more.
I think the act of gay sex itself can be a choice but being a homosexual I think is more to do with personality and a persons sexual need.
As for it being wrong or sinful as you put it. That is one thing it definately is not.

 

[ThereIsNoSpoon]

Could I put my penis into another mans bottom or have him do it to me? Is that what you are asking me??

Not really. I would rather say the question would sound like a "Could you ENJOY putting your penis into another mans bottom or have him doing it to you? Yould you ENJOY living in a (also) sexual relationship with such a man?

Love does not equal sex. And the desrire to shagg someone does not equal love. Perhaps you love sex with eachother - still not love.

I didnt say it equals one another. I only said that one is also part of the other.
I do doubt that you love your mother like you love your wife you know. At least I hope for your wifes sake

There is no proof that it is not a choice - no one is forced to engage in sex acts. Some go through life as virgins, this is a choice.

There is more than enough evidence to suggest that it is a fixed setting you get way before reaching puperty. And of course nobody is "forced to engage in sex acts". That doesnt however mean he can choose his sexual desires and affections.
Homosexuality (and heterosexuality) are more than just the mere act.

I wonder why nearly every television show now features Gay men. Fashion shows, lose weight show, how to dress right shows, makeover shows on and on and on it goes, why does it have to be so in our faces. Gay men who act like women, the campest of camp gay men, are all over TV land. WHY?

First of all you do not need to watch such tv shows. You know, you have a choice.
Secondly i would rather like to see concrete statistics than mere claims. "nearly every tv show" is not really any reliable number.
Apart of that I wonder where your problem is. Who cares if they are gay or straight? Obviously you. I wonder how this fits into your supposed golden rule belief.

 

[Commoner]

Im not an expert on anything

You aren't?!

Thanks for clearing that up!

 

[ThereIsNoSpoon]

Sevenz, you still havent given any evidence, or even attempted to explain how anal sex is anymore unhealthy than vaginal sex.

Well actually it is despite me disagreeing with all the rest sevenz said.