Proving the existence of Allah (swt) to an atheist

[Gharib]

"it is obligatory for men to be circumcised."

Why?

The Benefits of Male Circumcision read that.

Your god make a design error?

i see a statement, but no proof.

 

[nameless]

i see a statement, but no proof.

of course it is an error according to you people, so you are doing circumcision.

 

[Gharib]

lol,why god wants circumcision to happen?

it is of benefit to man.

if that skin is unnecessary and is to be circumcised, then god wont be placing skin over that.

he placed the skin so that we may circumcise and have low risks to contracting sexualy trasnmitted diseases, one example HIV.

muslims believes god exists for the reason he created everything perfect, so no alterations is to be done to our body, doing so it means god lack skill in creating body perfectly. So circumcision is unislamic.

so you are telling a muslim what islam is about?
if i use the same logic as you then why did your god (if he exists) create the heart when so many people have heart attacks and die due to heart failure? so many people require new hearts but alteration to the body is not allowed according to you. how does your god explain that?

male circumcision is islamic. it was first intorduced by Abraham (as) and his descendants in blood and religion still continue the tradition. Allah (swt) does not lack any skills. please do not say about Allah that which you know not, it is better for you.

 

[Gharib]

of course it is an error according to you people, so you are doing circumcision.

i see a statement but no proof.

you say your god is the real one, then tell me why are you cutting your nails when they grow? is that because your god has made an error?

 

[nameless]

he placed the skin so that we may circumcise and have low risks to contracting sexualy trasnmitted diseases, one example HIV.

lol , surely your god is great, lol

if god dont want humans to struggle of diseases, he wont be placing unnecessary skin. big contradiction in islam.

 

[Gharib]

lol , you should be proud for a god like that.

I AM PROUD OF MY GOD. I LOVE HIM MORE THAN ANYTHING THAT EXISTS.

it looks like your tounge is dried. is that all you can say.

 

[nameless]

I AM PROUD OF MY GOD. I LOVE HIM MORE THAN ANYTHING THAT EXISTS.

lol for placing unnecessary skin over mens d*** ? lol

 

[Commoner]

i see a statement but no proof.

you say your god is the real one, then tell me why are you cutting your nails when they grow? is that because your god has made an error?

Well, but Esalam, you need your heart to survive, but you do not really need a foreskin to survive. Surely god could have created you without the foreskin if it would have made for a more perfect design.

I only see two possibilities here - either man is not a perfect desing, or circumcision should not be needed (at least not as the default action - only if some trouble were to occur, like with a heart failure).

Your analogy with nails is also not accurate as while nails grow back, your foreskin wont. So it would be more like surgically removing your nails so they can never grow back. You'd wonder what the point of that would be wouldn't you?

 

[Gharib]

lol , surely your god is great, lol

if god dont want humans to struggle of diseases, he wont be placing unnecessary skin. big contradiction in islam.

wow really. so how many times are you going to change your statements?

why shouldn't he place the foreskin? no one would be able to have a circumcision if there was no foreskin.

 

[Gharib]

Well, but Esalam, you need your heart to survive, but you do not really need a foreskin to survive. Surely god could have created you without the foreskin if it would have made for a more perfect design.

I only see two possibilities here - either man is not a perfect desing, or circumcision should not be needed (at least not as the default action - only if some trouble were to occur, like with a heart failure).

there are problems from the foreskin. circumcision was not practised up until the time of Abraham (as). i posted a link in the previous page, go chech it out.

Your analogy with nails is also not accurate as while nails grow back, your foreskin wont. So it would be more like surgically removing your nails so they can never grow back. You'd wonder what the point of that would be wouldn't you?

so why cut them at all. you'd wonder why we cut them even though they grow back.

Allah knows why he has created the foreskin. and man with his knowledge has discovered that it should be cut off. same exalple as the appendix? why is it there? it is known that people who do not have problems with it go and remove it, just like those who do have problems with it. how do you explain that?

 

[nameless]

wow really. so how many times are you going to change your statements?

why shouldn't he place the foreskin? no one would be able to have a circumcision if there was no foreskin.

i changed my statements? only added more words, meaning is the same.

 

[Gharib]

i changed my statements? only added more words, meaning is the same.

yeah i see you do that quite alot. you can always make another post.

 

[Commoner]

there are problems from the foreskin. circumcision was not practised up until the time of Abraham (as). i posted a link in the previous page, go chech it out.

Hey, it doesn't really matter - I'm not going to start debating if there are problems or not - even if there are, you remove the foreskin long before any symptoms are (could be) present. Something that is so messed up that it practically needs to be removed at birth clearly doesn't shout "perfect creation!" to me.

so why cut them at all. you'd wonder why we cut them even though they grow back.

Because unlike the foreskin, the part of the nail that we cut is not living tissue! Same goes for hair.

Allah knows why he has created the foreskin. and man with his knowledge has discovered that it should be cut off. same exalple as the appendix? why is it there? it is known that people who do not have problems with it go and remove it, just like those who do have problems with it. how do you explain that?

Well, but you know that I have a very simple explanation for all that, don't you?

 

[Gharib]

Hey, it doesn't really matter - I'm not going to start debating if there are problems or not - even if there are, you remove the foreskin long before any symptoms are (could be) present. Something that is so messed up that it practically needs to be removed at birth clearly doesn't shout "perfect creation!" to me.

there have been cases when grown men had a circumcision. they didn't have it removed at childhood. most parents remove it at childhood from their child so that they do not remember it. most people would get frightened at a grown up age to go and get circumcised.

Because unlike the foreskin, the part of the nail that we cut is not living tissue! Same goes for hair.

yeah but why does it grow though?

Well, but you know that I have a very simple explanation for all that, don't you?

it was directed at nameless. if his god exists and has created everything, then whats with the appendix?

 

[nameless]

so you are telling a muslim what islam is about?
if i use the same logic as you then why did your god (if he exists) create the heart when so many people have heart attacks and die due to heart failure? so many people require new hearts but alteration to the body is not allowed according to you. how does your god explain that?

i dont believe god is responsible for the creation. Everything happened naturally.

this is not the way to answer my question, i asked you that, if foreskin is not needed in our body and is to be removed, then why allah placed foreskin, just give answer to that. Finding faults in other faiths wont justify your faith !!

 

[Religionisus]

Atheists are here for a reason:
To lead people down the path of blindness and sin.


Look at the universe and all the order of it, and you'll see God is real.

 

[Religionisus]

And look at ghosts.

 

[Religionisus]

Millions of people have seen Ghosts, which pretty much prove that God is real.

 

[Religionisus]

Only a fool becomes an atheist, and only a deluded fool would call themself an atheist, since many atheists have admitted their could be a God. So this really makes them Theists.

 

[Kerr]

wow really. so how many times are you going to change your statements?

why shouldn't he place the foreskin? no one would be able to have a circumcision if there was no foreskin.

Which was kind of the point... if placing the skin there in the first place makes is more probably to catch diseases, and then you place it there so that some people may take it off and lower the risks of them catching those diseases...