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Public displays of affection.

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة


I'm sorry Dr. Sheldon Cooper, I never realised you were on RF! :D


Oh and for the record:
Sounds to me like you can't handle sex. That's not intended as an insult by the way.


The shameful irony is that I have Sheldon Cooper as my Desktop wallpaper :facepalm:.

Secondly I do not understand the implications of the phrase "cannot handle sex". I do not desire sex so on earth can I not handle something I do not want? I am not disgusted by it nor am I afraid of women, I just dislike sex and romantic attachments.
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Get a good game and you're on. :D

Three words..... Metal Gear Solid!

Don't feel too bad about the questions. I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum, that for me sex is my favorite thing in the world. I've even contemplated frequently how the orgasm is the physical and mental equivalent to enlightenment.

If the orgasm was equivalent to enlightenment then I am sure every pornstar would qualify as the new reincarnation as Buddha :D. I do admit the thought brings amusement to me.

FWIW, I don't think you're a bad person for your asexuality. You know yourself and your personal boundaries, and you live your life.

My boundaries usually end on the phrase "do you want to go out sometime".
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
Three words..... Metal Gear Solid!

My sons love that game. Obviously I should check it out. :D

If the orgasm was equivalent to enlightenment then I am sure every pornstar would qualify as the new reincarnation as Buddha :D. I do admit the thought brings amusement to me.

LOL yeah it isn't a very popular opinion.

My boundaries usually end on the phrase "do you want to go out sometime".

Well, it seems we'll always have Metal Gear Solid.
 

Wherenextcolumbus

Well-Known Member
I imagine after the first several times, the allure and fascination would wear off. As long as they aren't, like, hitting on your kids or something, or snuck into a kindergarten playground specifically during recess or something.

But what if someone was masturbating in public and smiling at children while they were doing it?
 

dust1n

Zindīq
But what if someone was masturbating in public and smiling at children while they were doing it?

I'm not sure how masturbating mid-street qualifies as a public display of affection. We generally ascribe 'pedo' to someone who would wag their flag at children.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
I'm not sure how masturbating mid-street qualifies as a public display of affection. We generally ascribe 'pedo' to someone who would wag their flag at children.

I was thinking the same thing. That is would qualify the same as a woman flashing her breasts. I don't consider the latter to be a public display of affection, and neither would masturbating in public.

Our kids have walked in on us before. Though they'd prefer to stick their hands in a blender than watch hubbie and I have sex, they didn't display any avoidance from us afterward, or embarrassment, or confusion, or disgust. They look at it as it's largely an innocent and intimate act.

We have already been seeing all our kids - now teeangers and quite savvy - explore and discover sex. We've been there to see how our teenagers discover the first time male and female nudity, sexual orientation variances, gender identity variances, and discussing with them what their own personal boundaries are. But what there never has been an issue with, AFAIK, is body image issues since none of the kids were ever told in any way that their bodies are dirty or shameful.

So, they seem to have the same attitude toward witnessing a PDA that exceeds what they would do themselves in the same manner as suddenly walking in on a stranger going to the bathroom. It's an intimate act, as far as they're concerned, and amusing because of how unusual it is. But they've never been scarred from it. At least to my knowledge they haven't. :shrug:
 

Wherenextcolumbus

Well-Known Member
But it could be argued that if people are allowed to have sex in very public places, that someone could masturbate in public as well? Do we draw the line at couples? And also can they do anything sexual together in public? Can a group of people have an orgy together in public?
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Like I said, it doesn't bother me. I could not really case less, and I have no kids and have no intentions of having kids ever. However society wishes to treat to issue is of very little consequence to me.

I think there is a clear line of some form of couple or perhaps a couple more people, who are trying to pull something in a public place, in hopes of not getting caught, because it's exhilarating to them, and people who are harassing others with their genitals.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
I was thinking the same thing. That is would qualify the same as a woman flashing her breasts. I don't consider the latter to be a public display of affection, and neither would masturbating in public.

That's what I would think. Hell, even a guy who is masturbating in an alley doesn't really bother me. But it's pretty obvious when someone is masturbating at child or pedestrians as they walk by.
 

Wherenextcolumbus

Well-Known Member
Like I said, it doesn't bother me. I could not really case less, and I have no kids and have no intentions of having kids ever. However society wishes to treat to issue is of very little consequence to me.

I think there is a clear line of some form of couple or perhaps a couple more people, who are trying to pull something in a public place, in hopes of not getting caught, because it's exhilarating to them, and people who are harassing others with their genitals.

Ok, I was thinking along the lines of it being legal and becoming normalised in society, how far should it be allowed to go and in what public spaces. Just for the record I wouldn't have a problem with catching a couple having sex in public either.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Ok, I was thinking along the lines of it being legal and becoming normalised in society, how far should it be allowed to go and in what public spaces. Just for the record I wouldn't have a problem with catching a couple having sex in public either.

Well, I think society is going to be okay. Sex is fun and all, but it ain't that great. Plus everyone has to be at work.
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
It's mostly a non-issue to me. I don't see why people get so uptight about bodies. :shrug:

Humans are one of the only animals, except maybe hermit crabs and a few others, that aren't naked all the time. All throughout modern history, it's gotten to the point where if someone accidentally gets seen naked, then it's like the most embarrassing thing in the world to them for some reason. I think it's very unhealthy for people to take so much shame in their own form, and to expect so much shame from others regarding their own form, when we're one of the only animals that covers our own form anyway.

I don't care about public displays of affection.

It's logical to have some laws in place that restrict people from showing their genitals in public so that there is a way to stop events related to pedophiles, or sexual harassment, or really over-the-top things. But even laws against full nakedness don't need to be 100% strictly enforced depending on the context, if people are being discrete, because the whole idea of saying that someone's natural form basically shouldn't appear outside in its natural environment is just.... odd.
 

methylatedghosts

Can't brain. Has dumb.
So I was waiting at one of the main bus stores in town a while ago. It was about 8pm, and a young teenage couple seemed to be having a lot of trouble detaching their mouths. Maybe one of them had something stuck intheir teeth and the other was using their tongue to help get it out... I don't know. Anyhow, after5 mins of this performance, an older couple came and say on the bench next to them. They'd clearly had a drink or two, and were quietly whispering and giggling, gesturing at the teenage couple still intent on swallowing each other whole. The older couple, who would have been at least in their 70s started imitating the young couple.

Finally the boy opened his eyes and saw the passion in his neighbours actions. I saw the whites of his eyes, and he positively choked on his girl, and threw himself on the ground. I couldn't help myself. I was in hysterics. Both teens were redder than beetroot, and the older couple shared ear-to-ear grins.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Various scientists -- mainly anthropologists -- have pointed out that humans seem to have a nearly universal taboo against public copulation. That taboo is so pervasive among human cultures that it calls for explanation. And I am aware of at least two or three theories that seek to explain it.

To me, the most plausible of those theories is that humans have taboos against public copulation in order to protect against sexual jealousies destroying communal bonds. I don't know if that's right, but it seems the most plausible of the theories I've heard.

Please note: the fact some people -- a relatively few -- break taboos is not usually an argument against the existence of taboos.
 

methylatedghosts

Can't brain. Has dumb.
Various scientists -- mainly anthropologists -- have pointed out that humans seem to have a nearly universal taboo against public copulation. That taboo is so pervasive among human cultures that it calls for explanation. And I am aware of at least two or three theories that seek to explain it.

To me, the most plausible of those theories is that humans have taboos against public copulation in order to protect against sexual jealousies destroying communal bonds. I don't know if that's right, but it seems the most plausible of the theories I've heard.

Please note: the fact some people -- a relatively few -- break taboos is not usually an argument against the existence of taboos.

Are those taboos innate? I.e. how long have they been around? At what point in human history did it become not ok to root in front of others? Other animals do it all the time? When did humans decide it wasn't ok?

I feel like it's become a taboo only relatively recently in the grand scheme of human history
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Are those taboos innate? I.e. how long have they been around? At what point in human history did it become not ok to root in front of others? Other animals do it all the time? When did humans decide it wasn't ok?

I feel like it's become a taboo only relatively recently in the grand scheme of human history

So far as I'm aware, Luke, most of the scientists I've read on it believe it is innate. Which would imply it's been around for a very long time. The argument that it is innate stems from how widespread it is.
 
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