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Put on your oven mitts folks, you are going to need them:

Audie

Veteran Member
Does the number of authors really matter. There are some really good books about history, hygiene or philosophy written by just one person. More authors does not mean more quality or truthfulness.


The Wizard of Oz is the work of one author, from a span of a couple of years, or less.

Genealogy, folk wisdom, folk-remedies, history,
poetry, advice both good and bad, Lots of stuff like
that, such as any people would have.

  • Genealogy: The relationship Dorothy and Auntie Em
  • Folk wisdom: There is no living thing that is not afraid when it faces danger. The true courage is in facing danger when you are afraid, and that kind of courage you have in plenty.
  • Folk-remedies: Oil is good for metal contraptions
  • History: The life and travels of Oscar Diggs
  • Poetry: “How can you talk if you haven’t got a brain?” “I don’t know… But some people without brains do an awful lot of talking… don’t they?”
  • Advice both good and bad: Experience is the only thing that brings knowledge. Unlike with the bible, I can't find any bad advice.

Into the mix goes elements of historical novel,
and, magic realism.

To say the entirety is fantasy is a reasonable position.






Are the Biblical stories about Egypt true?

Ok..whatever.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
A Christian would Not operate a business ignoring pollution standards.
So all the paper mills that dumped toxins into rivers were run by Jews or atheists!
So the people who own the coal and electric companies are all Jews or atheists!
So the people who own the Florida sugar companies are all Jews or atheists!


Are you really that naive?
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Christians do Not deliberately contribute to Climate Change.
CAUSE
Early in the bible God's people are exhorted to go forth and multiply. To this day Christians oppose birth control.

EFFECT
One of the major contributors to AGW is that there are seven billion people on earth.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
So all the paper mills that dumped toxins into rivers were run by Jews or atheists!
So the people who own the coal and electric companies are all Jews or atheists!
So the people who own the Florida sugar companies are all Jews or atheists!


Are you really that naive?

Ha! They are not REAL Christians!
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
i expect them real Christians are harder to find than
fur on a frog.

I've heard of harder to find than hen's teeth but never fur on a frog.
One historian calculated that out of all the people Jesus contacted that only 1% became a follower.
That would indicate that if Jesus was running for office that he would have gotten only 1% of the votes.
1% is not nothing, but scarce. "Few" is the word Jesus used at Matthew 7:14, so only a few would be real.
Jesus continued in verse 22 that 'many' would call his Lord but they would prove false.
So, even if only 1% of the world's population follows Jesus that would not be nothing.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
So all the paper mills that dumped toxins into rivers were run by Jews or atheists!
So the people who own the coal and electric companies are all Jews or atheists!
So the people who own the Florida sugar companies are all Jews or atheists!
Are you really that naive?

The last time I noticed BIG business is run by people of various faiths or non-faiths.
Since real Christians are in the minority, then they are Not BIG business but might run a small business.
After all, a number of Jesus' apostles were in the fishing business. A family run business.
The apostle Paul made tents to support himself in the ministry. Paul did Not set up a tent-making business.
Before Jesus' 3 1/2 year ministry, Jesus was a carpenter, but he did Not run or set up a business.

I think a lot of people connect the commercial world of BIG business being run by a lot of Jews.
Regardless, the world's merchants will 'weep and mourn' according to Revelation 18:11.
Weep and mourn in sorrow due to loss of revenue.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Ah, so the litmus test for a True Christian (TM) is their view on climate change. And here I thought it had more to do with Jesus Christ.

The view on climate change I find is connected to what it says at 2 Timothy 3:1-5,13 that in these ' last days of badness ' on Earth people would display a selfish-centered and distorted form of love which is compared to the opposite of godly love as defined at 1 Corinthians 13:4-6.
That is why God will have to bring to ruin those people ruining the Earth.
If you read the first three verses of 2nd Timothy chapter three you will read about today's people's prevalent run-afoul characteristics as the line of evidence which is the final result in these critical days before Jesus will involve himself into mankind's affairs.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Well, I hope not. Finland is a far more civilized
country than the USA, this country could sure
use some of that wretched "socialism" that they
have developed.

Seems to me there are different forms of ' socialism '.
What I notice around here is that schools are getting more like indoctrination centers..
Education to me should be more about teaching 'how to think', but what a lot are being taught is the propaganda teaching of 'what to think'. So, what is socialism in Finland could end up very different elsewhere.
This country could sure use some of that Golden Rule applied to all.
What is imperfect gives rise to conflict. The application of the Golden Rule gives us a morality to be governed by.
Jesus even stressed to now love neighbor 'more' than self.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
CAUSE
Early in the bible God's people are exhorted to go forth and multiply. To this day Christians oppose birth control.
EFFECT
One of the major contributors to AGW is that there are seven billion people on earth.

Christians do multiply because I see Christian families still having children.
That does Not mean irresponsible child bearing.
I know of two cases that after birth complications women were put on birth control for a year for safety sake.
The one later on did have two successful pregnancies. The other tried after a year but never had another child.

Since Revelation 11:18 B says God will bring to ruin those ruining Earth, then any major contributor to AGW will be ruined.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Yes, I know mankind has been hearing about ' it ' for centuries, but hearing about something is Not only what counts.
Never before in history has mankind seen the fulfillment of Jesus' words that the good news about God's kingdom would be proclaimed on a grand international scale as it is being done today.
So, the difference now is that we are at the ' final phase ' of that world-wide preaching work.
That means we are nearing the ' final signal ' when the 'powers that be' will be saying, "Peace and Security" which will prove to be the precursor to the coming great tribulation on Earth before Jesus,as Prince of Peace, will usher in global Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill.
I have to wonder how many times over the past few thousand years that people have said all this stuff about "final phases" and "end days" and all that stuff. Just within the last century there have been many. Everybody always seems to think the end of the world is near. Ho hum, nothing new to see here.

I just think it's bizarre that people would hope for it. I'd rather people take care of the only earth we have to live on, while we're here in the only life we know we are getting for sure.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Seems to me there are different forms of ' socialism '.
What I notice around here is that schools are getting more like indoctrination centers..
Education to me should be more about teaching 'how to think', but what a lot are being taught is the propaganda teaching of 'what to think'. So, what is socialism in Finland could end up very different elsewhere.
This country could sure use some of that Golden Rule applied to all.
What is imperfect gives rise to conflict. The application of the Golden Rule gives us a morality to be governed by.
Jesus even stressed to now love neighbor 'more' than self.

We are somewhat ironically amused by a fundamentalist
speaking of how it is those others who are being "indoctrinated" and, "not taught how to think".

But of course you are right about the word "socialism".
It basically means whatever anyone wants it to mean.

We are taught, btw, to put the welfare of our families above
our own personal preferences. To "love" everyone out there
more than you do yourself is absurd. (suicidal, for one thing)
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I've heard of harder to find than hen's teeth but never fur on a frog.
One historian calculated that out of all the people Jesus contacted that only 1% became a follower.
That would indicate that if Jesus was running for office that he would have gotten only 1% of the votes.
1% is not nothing, but scarce. "Few" is the word Jesus used at Matthew 7:14, so only a few would be real.
Jesus continued in verse 22 that 'many' would call his Lord but they would prove false.
So, even if only 1% of the world's population follows Jesus that would not be nothing.

Chickens do sometimes have teeth.
Best not to notice that, for lo, the evil of Evolution
lurks nearby. :D

But then, none of that is of importance here.

Since by some you would not be figured a True Christian,
nor they by you, and so on ad infinitum, we suspect that
the True True Christian must be non existent, something like frog hair.

Or like the "true" spirit of Christmas, about which no
two agree. (spirit?)
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Since real Christians are in the minority, then they are Not BIG business but might run a small business.

Who gets to define "Real Christians"? You? Based on what moral authority?[/QUOTE]



I think a lot of people connect the commercial world of BIG business being run by a lot of Jews.

Your Real Christian anti-Semitism is showing. Luther would be proud.
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
Earth without man to me would be a Zoo without visitors.
Real Christians treat the Earth by applying the Golden Rule, and applying Jesus' new commandment to have the same self-sacrificing love for others as he has. Jesus did Not pollute.
Jesus used his power to calm the angry sea by using the words from his mouth and the sea obeyed him. Jesus controlled weather phenomenon.
When living by the Golden-Rule life style then one is already treating the Earth as it should be treated.
Just helping to preserve is Not the solution because there aren't enough people helping to preserve the Earth.
That is why God will bring ruin to those ruining the Earth. Then Earth will then be safe for those genuine helpers.

Are you saying god created a zoo for humans? Really? Aren't we part of this "Zoo" too?
And I am not sure where these Christians you are talking about but they like most of us are doing too little to late. I certainly do not see them doing much where I live or have visited.
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
I am wondering how you know that I don't know how fast Earth is being ruined or destroyed.
As to those 'Christians' who are bringing ruin to Earth, they are the fake 'weed/tares' Christians that Jesus warned about. Jesus said that MANY would come ' in his name ' but prove false at Matthew chapter 7.
So, yes God will STOP them. They are Not part of genuine ' wheat ' Christianity ' but part of Christendom (apostate Christianity) Christendom is the modern-day monstrosity that soon will be stopped when the political world will suddenly turn her. In other words, religious 'house cleaning' will start with Christendom.
As the old adage says 'a new broom sweeps clean'. Jesus as that figurative ' broom ' will sweep away those fake ' weed/tares' Christians.

You cannot be so blind not to see what is happening. Record temperatures, disappearing habitat, increasing disease rates, increasing piles of trash - land fills, wasting or resources and so many other things happening at an increasing rate from human activity. The words in the bible will not make things better. We have to take responsibility. Take a moment from reading your book and see what is really happening.
 
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