Put on your oven mitts folks, you are going to need them:

[Hockeycowboy]

You are ignoring the earlier verses where God said that he would harden pharaoh's heart.

Isaiah 53:10 says ‘God crushed / bruised Jesus.’ Was it? Did God hurt His Son, or did other people do it? Was it that since God allowed the terrible events to happen, the account says God did it?

(Same situation w/ Job. God implied to Satan that He was the One causing Job distress, yet the account tells us Satan was really behind it.)

 

[Audie]

Isaiah 53:10 says ‘God crushed / bruised Jesus.’ Was it? Did God hurt His Son, or did other people do it? Was it that since God allowed the terrible events to happen, the account says God did it?

(Same situation w/ Job. God implied to Satan that He was the One causing Job distress, yet the account tells us Satan was really behind it.)

Speaking of crush n bruise, your excuses sound like
battered wife syndrome.

You think sending a angel to kill all the firstborn
was swell, right? Justified, rational, sane and credible!

And holy, yes, most holy

 

[Subduction Zone]

Isaiah 53:10 says ‘God crushed / bruised Jesus.’ Was it? Did God hurt His Son, or did other people do it? Was it that since God allowed the terrible events to happen, the account says God did it?

(Same situation w/ Job. God implied to Satan that He was the One causing Job distress, yet the account tells us Satan was really behind it.)

No it doesn't. Where did you get that crazy idea from?

And you seem to be ignorant of the Job myth as well. God made a bet with Satan and allowed the death of Job's family. God simply did not need to grab and make an innocent man suffer for his ego.

 

[Audie]

No it doesn't. Where did you get that crazy idea from?

And you seem to be ignorant of the Job myth as well. God made a bet with Satan and allowed the death of Job's family. God simply did not need to grab and make an innocent man suffer for his ego.

Psychopath

 

[Subduction Zone]

Psychopath

That could be. The Bible surely does not promote mental health.

I pity the literalists at times. They either have to reinterpret the book to such an extent that they have no understanding of it or have to endorse a vile and incompetent God. And we have examples of both here.

 

[Audie]

That could be. The Bible surely does not promote mental health.

I pity the literalists at times. They either have to reinterpret the book to such an extent that they have no understanding of it or have to endorse a vile and incompetent God. And we have examples of both here.

For clarity-

The god portrayed is a psycho.

No reference to persons present.

 

[Subduction Zone]

For clarity-

The god portrayed is a psycho.

No reference to persons present.

I understood that you meant that. But it is a good idea to clarify so that you are not accused of calling a member psycho. As you can see in my post it is the God of the Bible that is vile and incompetent and not the posters either.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

No it doesn't. Where did you get that crazy idea from?

And you seem to be ignorant of the Job myth as well. God made a bet with Satan and allowed the death of Job's family. God simply did not need to grab and make an innocent man suffer for his ego.

I thought you wouldn't understand it (I could teach you, but I doubt you'd want to learn).

Maybe this will work:
Who do you think had a more in depth understanding of the Scriptures? You or the Apostle John?

John being a devout Jew, I'd say he grasped the meaning behind the Scriptures better than you. And although aware of God's (questionable to many) actions described in the Hebrew Scriptures (OT), he wrote, "God is love." - 1 John 4:8

Of course, with your explanation, God is hateful.....your pov and John's are polemic! (So is yours and Isaac Newton's, a man who 'studied the Bible daily.')
The heavens mark the passing of Sir Isaac Newton

I wonder who's assessment is correct?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I thought you wouldn't understand it (I could teach you, but I doubt you'd want to learn).

Maybe this will work:
Who do you think had a more in depth understanding of the Scriptures? You or the Apostle John?

John being a devout Jew, I'd say he grasped the meaning behind the Scriptures better than you. And although aware of God's (questionable to many) actions described in the Hebrew Scriptures (OT), he wrote, "God is love." - 1 John 4:8

Of course, with your explanation, God is hateful.....your pov and John's are polemic! (So is yours and Isaac Newton's, a man who 'studied the Bible daily.')
The heavens mark the passing of Sir Isaac Newton

I wonder who's assessment is correct?

Please, don't make the error of assuming that you understand the Bible better than others. None of that supports your claims. By the way, why do think that the Gospel of John was written by John? It was the last gospel written and almost certainly written after his death. When you make the error or reading the Bible literally it makes it much more difficult for you to understand it.

 

[dfnj]

A new creationist movie is coming out on evolution. The trailer is one face palming PRATT after another.

Should we break down the claims one at time?

I agree. Just because you believe in evolution doesn't mean you are free of your responsibilities from God. The movie is pure BS.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

I can tell...you get the point.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I can tell...you get the point.

Would you care to try to support your claim about the verse in Isaiah referring to Jesus again? Or could you take honorable step of admitting that you can't?

 

[ecco]

One reason Creationists cannot accept evolution is because they cannot truly comprehend the concept of millions and billions of years.

One reason religious folk look forward to Eternity is because they cannot truly comprehend the concept of an infinite number of years. After a while there would just be repetition and repetition and repetition and repetition.

Imagine sitting through the 4th grade class over and over and over. Bart Simpson has. But 29 years is not even a speck on eternity.

Did you not read what I posted?
How is there repetition....when there are new things to discover? As with organisms evolving?

Yes, I did read what you posted. You said you never tire of looking at your wife.

Now you say "How is there repetition....when there are new things to discover?" You can look at every organism evolving; you can visit thousands of earth-like planets and watch from beginning to end; you can see evolution in process; You can do this a billion times for a billion different planets; then you can repeat it a billion times for each of the billion different planets. All this and you still haven't gone through a blink of an eye of eternity.

As I said: One reason religious folk look forward to Eternity is because they cannot truly comprehend the concept of an infinite number of years.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Yes, I did read what you posted. You said you never tire of looking at your wife.

Now you say "How is there repetition....when there are new things to discover?" You can look at every organism evolving; you can visit thousands of earth-like planets and watch from beginning to end; you can see evolution in process; You can do this a billion times for a billion different planets; then you can repeat it a billion times for each of the billion different planets. All this and you still haven't gone through a blink of an eye of eternity.

As I said: One reason religious folk look forward to Eternity is because they cannot truly comprehend the concept of an infinite number of years.

So you're saying 'evolution will stop'? New organisms
won't keep coming into existence, throughout eternity?

 

[ecco]

So you're saying 'evolution will stop'? New organisms
won't keep coming into existence, throughout eternity?

Are you having a reading comprehension problem or are you deliberately trying to sidestep? Where or how did I say or imply that 'evolution will stop'?

What I said was that you would get bored beyond the point of suicide less than 1% into eternity. At that point you would have seen trillions of new species come into existence. How often do you think you will be amazed at seeing an intelligent T-Rex writing a Constitution? How often do you think you will be intrigued at seeing a flight of elephants with enormous ears flying through a methane sky? Oh, that's like the mice flying off to Grad School - Yawn.

And then you will still have 99.99999999++++% of eternity to deal with.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Are you having a reading comprehension problem or are you deliberately trying to sidestep? Where or how did I say or imply that 'evolution will stop'?

What I said was that you would get bored beyond the point of suicide less than 1% into eternity. At that point you would have seen trillions of new species come into existence. How often do you think you will be amazed at seeing an intelligent T-Rex writing a Constitution? How often do you think you will be intrigued at seeing a flight of elephants with enormous ears flying through a methane sky? Oh, that's like the mice flying off to Grad School - Yawn.

And then you will still have 99.99999999++++% of eternity to deal with.

Well, since it doesn't take much for me to enjoy life -- I take pleasure in the simplest of things -- I'd really enjoy new things, especially getting to know my GGGG(to the nth degree) Grandkids. Are you telling me you would get tired of that?

 

[Bear Wild]

It won't quite get that far! -- Revelation 11:18(last part)

Revelation will not give you the answer. You need to close the book and open your eyes to what is happening.

 

[ecco]

Well, since it doesn't take much for me to enjoy life -- I take pleasure in the simplest of things -- I'd really enjoy new things, especially getting to know my GGGG(to the nth degree) Grandkids. Are you telling me you would get tired of that?

There's no sense in repeating everything. Enjoy your eternity.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Didnt read, did not write, did not comprehend.

Since you did Not read Exodus 8:32 here it is: It reads: ...Pharaoh again hardened his heart......

1 Samuel 6:6 reads: Why should you harden your heart as Egypt and Pharaoh hardened their hearts?.......

To me the comprehension is that Pharaoh hardened his own heart which God allowed to happen.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Revelation will not give you the answer. You need to close the book and open your eyes to what is happening.

To me, Revelation 11:18 B is with wide-open eyes to what is now happening. There is destruction and ruin on Earth.
That is why God gives us the answer as to who will bring to ruin those ruining Earth.
The executional words from Jesus' mouth will rid the Earth of those causing ruin to Earth - Isaiah 11:3-4.
Jesus as king of kings (will govern over earth's political powers who are against him) - Revelation 19:14-16