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Put on your oven mitts folks, you are going to need them:

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Nope, though wrong and sloppy by today's standards there was no fraud. A claim that creationists constantly make but cannot support.

There were some things that he was right about. That is why some of his work survives.
I was stating that his embryonic drawings are still found in textbooks and touted as evidence for CD, even in this century. I said nothing about his fraud.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I was stating that his embryonic drawings are still found in textbooks and touted as evidence for CD, even in this century. I said nothing about his fraud.
That is true because they are evidence for evolution, though today the drawings are used for historical purposes. The evidence is shown better through photographs.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
We know that. That still makes beliefs in ghosts on the same order as believing in fairies. The rational approach is to solve the problems that are solvable first.
How many rational and highly respected people have remarked -- candidly, I might add -- that they've seen and /or had experiences with ghosts? Too numerous to mention!

Now, how many reliable sources have claimed to see fairies? None.

It's not "of the same order". Lol.
 
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Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
That is true because they are evidence for evolution, though today the drawings are used for historical purposes. The evidence is shown better through photographs.
And yet, authorities have removed them, from most textbooks.

Why? If they're such good evidence.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
When you've eaten lobster for the billionth time will you still look forward to eating lobster?
When you've talked to Aunt Mary for the billionth time will you still look forward to talking with Aunt Mary?


When you've studied and learned quantum mechanics for the billionth time will you look forward to ...


You really aren't able to grasp the concept of eternity are you?
IMO, it's you who seems limited.

I'll never tire of looking at my beautiful wife!

And, as microevolution slowly changes all organisms, we'll never tire of finding new species.
Also technology will probably advance to the point of intra-galactic travel; then there will be even more to explore and discover!

It will all be completely safe, too, having our loving Father's protection!

There will be a lot to look forward to!
 
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Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Being dead brings me no fear whatsoever. While I very much enjoy life and would like it to last as it has for a long while, the prospect of death itself isn't an issue for me. I figure it will be something like the long period of time *before* I existed: I wasn't there, so it really didn't affect me at all.
You may not believe this, but the view you expressed, is exactly what the Bible states! God told Adam (after his sin), "You will return to the ground."
"The dead know nothing."
Those who die "go down to silence." "Their thoughts do perish."

The only hope is for a future resurrection.
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
How many rational and highly respected people have remarked -- candidly, I might add -- that they've seen and /or had experiences with ghosts? Too numerous to mention!

Now, how many reliable sources have claimed to see fairies? None.

It's not "of the same order". Lol.
not very many. Not "Too numerous to mention". Why even bring this up?

Okay, you effectively "believe in fairies". The burden of proof is upon you for that belief.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
And yet, authorities have removed them, from most textbooks.

Why? If they're such good evidence.
Please pay attention, they have removed what he got wrong. They have not removed embryology. Scientists are quite often a mix of right and wrong. In basic science classes there is not enough time to go over all of the errors that scientists have made. There is only enough time to cover some of what they got right. Do you understand this concept?
 

ecco

Veteran Member
IMO, it's you who seems limited.

I'll never tire of looking at my beautiful wife!

One reason Creationists cannot accept evolution is because they cannot truly comprehend the concept of millions and billions of years.

One reason religious folk look forward to Eternity is because they cannot truly comprehend the concept of an infinite number of years. After a while there would just be repetition and repetition and repetition and repetition.

Imagine sitting through the 4th grade class over and over and over. Bart Simpson has. But 29 years is not even a speck on eternity.
 
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