Put on your oven mitts folks, you are going to need them:

[URAVIP2ME]

No matter how you slice it, the fact remains......you are justifying genocide. You are saying that the 3 month old baby deserves to be executed.
There's nothing more to be said.

Sure, there is more to be said because Parents are responsible for minor children as per 1 Corinthians 7:14.
So, I find it is the parent who is responsible for the minor's life.
That does Not mean a baby of any months deserves to be executed.
It means that the life of the baby is in the parents hands. The parents choice.

 

[Jose Fly]

Sure, there is more to be said because Parents are responsible for minor children as per 1 Corinthians 7:14.
So, I find it is the parent who is responsible for the minor's life.
That does Not mean a baby of any months deserves to be executed.
It means that the life of the baby is in the parents hands. The parents choice.

If God told you to kill a 3 month old baby because it was beyond reform and beyond repenting, would you do it?

 

[Audie]

Each one of the 10 plagues humiliated one of the Egyptian gods.
Pharaoh was warned repeatedly to let Israel go, so Pharaoh could have let them go well before the 10th plague.
So, the death of their first born humilated their god. That was proverbial the straw that broke the camels back.
Not all of Egypt followed Pharaoh, so those Egyptians who sided with Moses' God did Not loose their first born.

Dont give me that crap.

For one thing, God would not even allow Pharoah
to let them go. Remember the story?

And as for "humiliated a god" there were no "gods"
to humiliate.

AND,

Back to you justifying, rationalizing mass murder by
your "god" as in

Parents are responsible for 'minor' children as per 1 Corinthians 7:14.
Since the executed people were beyond reform, then they would have spread their perverted ways among their minor children besides others.

Newborns dying for the sins of their parents. Sick
Sick, sick, sick.

Now back to killing all the firstborn.

Hundreds of miles from the Pharoah, with
no knowledge of what is going on, no possible
way to intervene on the behalf of the Hebrews
if they wanted to, a poor farm family wakes
to the horror of their son, his throat cut, blood
everywhere, he is dead. Screams and crying
from every home

Terrif! Cant even do it himself,
he sends an angel to do the dirty work.
What an argument!
What a guy, what a"God"!

(dont forget he hardened Pharoahs heart so he
cannot do the right thing!)

All that jerk "god" would have needed to
do is say,"Uh, Pharoah....". Or maybe just
let him know tht his toes will keep getting
hotter till he gets the picture.

But Nooooooo. Slaughter the innocents.
Idid you remember that the psycho is doing
this while not allowing the pharoah to give in?)

You guys are just incredible.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

If God told you to kill a 3 month old baby because it was beyond reform and beyond repenting, would you do it?

God does Not tell us to do that, but please notice Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16 because Jesus, with angelic armies, will do the executing. The executional words from Jesus' mouth will rid the Earth of the wicked.
The wicked will be ' destroyed forever ' as per Psalms 92:7.
As per 1 Corinthians 7:14 parents are going to be held responsible for 'minor' children as they were in Noah's Day.

 

[Audie]

Sure, there is more to be said because Parents are responsible for minor children as per 1 Corinthians 7:14.
So, I find it is the parent who is responsible for the minor's life.
That does Not mean a baby of any months deserves to be executed.
It means that the life of the baby is in the parents hands. The parents choice.

Right and if the parents s choose wrong?
Cut the baby's throat.

Any idea why some of us would fight to the death to
keep a theocracy from taking over?

 

[Audie]

God does Not tell us to do that, but please notice Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16 because Jesus, with angelic armies, will do the executing. The executional words from Jesus' mouth will rid the Earth of the wicked.
The wicked will be ' destroyed forever ' as per Psalms 92:7.
As per 1 Corinthians 7:14 parents are going to be help responsible for 'minor' children as they were in Noah's Day.

And what if "god" did tell you to? What then?
The angel did s it was told.
Cut their throats.

What about you, you better than an angel, dont
have to obey?

 

[Jose Fly]

You guys are just incredible.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it? I've got one Christian telling me that federal law doesn't supersede state law and Christianity was the only religion in existence when the US was founded. I've got another one telling me science is a cult. And here we have one telling us that genocide and killing babies is justified.

 

[Jose Fly]

God does Not tell us to do that

Numbers 31:
17Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

Try again. If God told you to kill a 3 month old baby because it was beyond reform and beyond repenting, would you do it?

but please notice Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16 because Jesus, with angelic armies, will do the executing.

That's not what's depicted in the OT accounts. The Israelites carried out the executions.

 

[Audie]

Makes you wonder, doesn't it? I've got one Christian telling me that federal law doesn't supersede state law and Christianity was the only religion in existence when the US was founded. I've got another one telling me science is a cult. And here we have one telling us that genocide and killing babies is justified.

Ignorance is everywhere, but that last one is scary.

I did have one guy tell me that he was waiting for god
to tell him it is time to start killing all the atheists.

If you have not, read "the Turner Diaries"
available online. I couldnt make myself finish it,
but it tells much of the mentality involved here.

They'd have me hanging from a lamppost.

 

[Jose Fly]

Ignorance is everywhere

Well, there's common ignorance, which we all have on various subjects, and then there's deliberate, stubborn, willful ignorance.

but that last one is scary.

I did have one guy tell me that he was waiting for god
to tell him it is time to start killing all the atheists.

If you have not, read "the Turner Diaries"
available online. I couldnt make myself finish it,
but it tells much of the mentality involved here.

They'd have me hanging from a lamppost.

"Scary"....indeed.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

For one thing, God would not even allow Pharoah
to let them go. Remember the story
Parents are responsible for 'minor' children as per 1 Corinthians 7:14.
Since the executed people were beyond reform, then they would have spread their perverted ways among their minor children besides others.

As the story goes: Exodus 8:15, 19 Pharaoh hardened his own heart - Exodus 8:32.
Pharaoh was given enough time, enough rope to hang himself by working out the wickedness in his own heart.
Because wickedness was in Pharaoh's heart is why his heart was hardened.
Or, as Romans 9:14-18 says God will have mercy on the one showing mercy.
In time Pharaoh could have become a 'vessel of mercy' but instead he chose to be drawn out by his own desire -James 1:13-15. So, God allowed Pharaoh's wicked heart to remain hardened.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Each one of the 10 plagues humiliated one of the Egyptian gods.
Pharaoh was warned repeatedly to let Israel go, so Pharaoh could have let them go well before the 10th plague.
So, the death of their first born humilated their god. That was proverbial the straw that broke the camels back.
Not all of Egypt followed Pharaoh, so those Egyptians who sided with Moses' God did Not loose their first born.

You need to reread that myth. God kept "hardening Moses heart". Not once but time after time. God interfered so that Pharaoh did not let them go. Once again the God of the Bible is an immoral monster. Here let me help you:

Exodus 7 3:
"But I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and though I multiply my signs and wonders in Egypt,"

And he did:

"22But the Egyptian magicians did the same things by their secret arts, and Pharaoh’s heart became hard; he would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the Lord had said."

And in 8 15 God is still at it:

" 15But when Pharaoh saw that there was relief, he hardened his heart and would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the Lord had said."

And again, this is all part of God's doing as he said earlier:

"18But when the magicians tried to produce gnats by their secret arts, they could not."

I could go on. Your verse was an example of God hardening Pharaoh's heart as he promised, not Pharaoh hardening his own heart.

Since the gnats were on people and animals everywhere, 19the magicians said to Pharaoh, “This is the finger of God.” But Pharaoh’s heart was hard and he would not listen, just as the Lord had said.



Why do literalists always ignore the evil that their God does? Worse yet they excuse genocide after genocide.

 

[Audie]

As the story goes: Exodus 8:15, 19 Pharaoh hardened his own heart - Exodus 8:32.
Pharaoh was given enough time, enough rope to hang himself by working out the wickedness in his own heart.
Because wickedness was in Pharaoh's heart is why his heart was hardened.
Or, as Romans 9:14-18 says God will have mercy on the one showing mercy.
In time Pharaoh could have become a 'vessel of mercy' but instead he chose to be drawn out by his own desire -James 1:13-15. So, God allowed Pharaoh's wicked heart to remain hardened.

you dont even know your own freakin' book

Try READING exodus.

But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my signs and wonders in the land of Egypt, 4 Pharaoh will not listen to you. Then I will lay my hand on Egypt and bring my hosts, my people the children of Israel, out of the land of Egypt by great acts of judgment.

ETA

YOU are the one with the hardened heart. Look a the things you say!!!

 

[Audie]

Well, there's common ignorance, which we all have on various subjects, and then there's deliberate, stubborn, willful ignorance.


"Scary"....indeed.

Then, you get people who do not even read their own
stupid book but just think they know what it says.

Make up anything that suits them because "god"
guides their interpretation.

 

[Drew Henefer]

Ignorance is everywhere, but that last one is scary.

I did have one guy tell me that he was waiting for god
to tell him it is time to start killing all the atheists.

If you have not, read "the Turner Diaries"
available online. I couldnt make myself finish it,
but it tells much of the mentality involved here.

They'd have me hanging from a lamppost.

You'd swing pretty.

 

[Audie]

You'd swing pretty.

Uhhh.. what?

 

[Drew Henefer]

Uhhh.. what?

….If we...…"metaphorically"....string you up...….it would probably be a sweet sight.....cause......your filled with terrored confidence?

 

[Audie]

….If we...…"metaphorically"....string you up...….it would probably be a sweet sight.....cause......your filled with terrored confidence?

ig city for you

 

[Subduction Zone]

ig city for you

You might have a stalker there. Good call.

 

[Audie]

You might have a stalker there. Good call.

Girls learn to spot creepy guys.