Put There By The People

[icehorse]

Being a Brit, I can't comment on this with any real depth of knowledge.

Really? You can't extrapolate? My sense is that when government's abuse of a population gets to a certain level, civil disobedience is a valid response. It sure beats jumping directly to armed insurrection

 

[idav]

Obama said it best. “He’s an unconventional candidate. I don’t think there’s anybody who’s run a campaign like his successfully in modern history. Because he didn’t have the support of many of the establishment in his own party, because he ran an improvisation campaign.”

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I don't think people have really been under estimating trump, people saw his chances and scared the living daylights out of everyone. The fact he actually pulled off doesn't change that, now people are scared he might do some of the horrible things he promised. He hasn't done the good things he promised like draining the swamp, releasing returns etc.

 

[Rival]

Really? You can't extrapolate? My sense is that when government's abuse of a population gets to a certain level, civil disobedience is a valid response. It sure beats jumping directly to armed insurrection

I'm not sure civil disobedience is ever the answer; not when it involves violence and carnage.

#UnrevolutionaryBrit

 

[psychoslice]

The overreaction is induced by media, education and government meddling.

And you forgot, silly people,

 

[icehorse]

I'm not sure civil disobedience is ever the answer; not when it involves violence and carnage.

#UnrevolutionaryBrit

What do you propose when playing by the rules doesn't work?

 

[roger1440]

I don't think people have really been under estimating trump, people saw his chances and scared the living daylights out of everyone. The fact he actually pulled off doesn't change that, now people are scared he might do some of the horrible things he promised. He hasn't done the good things he promised like draining the swamp, releasing returns etc.

Draining what swamp and what horrible things?

 

[idav]

Draining what swamp and what horrible things?

The elite becoming more elite.

 

[Rival]

What do you propose when playing by the rules doesn't work?

Protest without hurting anyone. Strikes? Walkouts? Just accept crappy rules? Wait for the changes to happen organically.

 

[Revoltingest]

Being a Brit, I can't comment on this with any real depth of knowledge.

Too many Americastanians believe they know what's going on even before it happens.
Your admitted lack of depth of knowledge is to your credit.

 

[psychoslice]

I don't think people have really been under estimating trump, people saw his chances and scared the living daylights out of everyone. The fact he actually pulled off doesn't change that, now people are scared he might do some of the horrible things he promised. He hasn't done the good things he promised like draining the swamp, releasing returns etc.

For god sake give the man a go, and stop all this bad sportsmanship.

 

[idav]

For god sake give the man a go, and stop all this bad sportsmanship.

He may not affect me and my family much except in the wallet but think about the fish!!

 

[esmith]

It isn't an over reaction. Trump won with the least popular vote in history. People on his side of the isle were even in protest and has the worst approval rating going into office. Even the electoral had issues with faithless electors, the most in 200 years. The landowners got there say though, city folk will be dictated by rural needs.

It may not surprise people why city folks have to act more like a melting pot, but because people flee the rural areas for dear life, for more opportunity. Hopefully capitalistic cronyism is in farmers best interest but I highly doubt it, heck extreme capitalism isn't bad for cities just goes at the expense of laborers. I am with @tytlyf that working class have no business voting republican.

I think you might have the idea that people are fleeing the rural areas and moving to the cities. As a matter of fact the reverse is true
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I think you and @tytlyf have it wrong. The working class are who put President Trump in office.

 

[idav]

I think you might have the idea that people are fleeing the rural areas and moving to the cities. As a matter of fact the reverse is true
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If you think about it, its hard to believe the opposite, if people were fleeing to rural areas it would cease to be rural, lol.

The rural working class may have put trump in office but they did at their own detriment.

 

[psychoslice]

He may not affect me and my family much except in the wallet but think about the fish!!

Stuff the fish.

 

[idav]

Stuff the fish.

They need a home too!

 

[Twilight Hue]

I understand that many U.S. citizens are angered by Trump's win, but I am having trouble understanding this over-reaction (which it is, in my opinion). Why?

Well, because he was elected. According to how the U.S. electoral system works, he was put there the same way as any other President.

However, within living memory, my country has had two unelected Prime Ministers: the current one, Theresa May, and Gordon Brown (who succeeded Tony Blair). No-one put these two people there; the subjects didn't vote them in. Also, our PMs can hold office slightly longer than the U.S. President.

To make matters worse this current unelected leader is in-charge of Brexit, one of the most monumental moves in modern British history, and no-one put her there.

And we are not running riot in the streets.

Different attitudes I guess.

Shows what an overdeveloped sense of entitlement and dependency does to people.

 

[esmith]

The rural working class may have put trump in office but they did at their own detriment.

The tears of liberal/progressive whiners bring happiness to my heart.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I understand that many U.S. citizens are angered by Trump's win, but I am having trouble understanding this over-reaction (which it is, in my opinion). Why?

Well, because he was elected. According to how the U.S. electoral system works, he was put there the same way as any other President.

... which means he was put in place by the Electoral College, or according to the law. Neither of these mean that he was put in place "by the people."

However, within living memory, my country has had two unelected Prime Ministers: the current one, Theresa May, and Gordon Brown (who succeeded Tony Blair).

Not two; all. In your system (like mine in Canada) Prime Ministers are appointed by the monarch, not elected by the people.

The only way that the people are involved at all is that the monarch makes a judgement of whether a prospective Prime Minister is likely to have the support of the House, and the members of the House were elected by the people (albeit in a flawed first-past-the-post system that doesn't necessarily reflect the will of the people either).

Your country - like mine - has NEVER had an elected Prime Minister.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

We British are a rather unrevolutionary people.

After Leave won, most Remainers were like "Well, that sucks... Time to get on with my life." If Remain won, I suspect the same would have happened with most Leavers.


Brexit was very polarising and came as a shock, but people did not respond as strongly as some feared.

The coverage I'm seeing from the other side of the pond suggests that Scotland doesn't share this sentiment. Seems like the Brexit vote has given the Scottish independence movement fresh energy.

 

[Rival]

... which means he was put in place by the Electoral College, or according to the law. Neither of these mean that he was put in place "by the people."


Not two; all. In your system (like mine in Canada) Prime Ministers are appointed by the monarch, not elected by the people.

The only way that the people are involved at all is that the monarch makes a judgement of whether a prospective Prime Minister is likely to have the support of the House, and the members of the House were elected by the people (albeit in a flawed first-past-the-post system that doesn't necessarily reflect the will of the people either).

Your country - like mine - has NEVER had an elected Prime Minister.

I think you are mistaken. The Queen has no real power; it is all just pomp and ceremony.

Okay fine. I'll change the title.

"The same system the U.S. has always had put Trump there. Why is this system all of a sudden a problem and why if you all hate it so much have you done NOTHING about it?"

Quit whining and accept the way the system works or change the system.