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Putin open to peace talks

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
But not even by appeasing puppet governments.
Governments paid by an elitist cabal of warmongers overseas.

Monsieur...I remind you that the strong governments in the EU are Italy, Slovakia, Hungary....

In Germany there is a political crisis...due to bad choices taken overseas.

He is defending himself from the demonic gang who paid the comedian to invade Kursk.

Ukrainians invaded Russia...so their goal is not to take Donbas back.
You seem to have ignored much over the last few years - as to Putin invading Ukraine - apart from doing so from 2014 onwards as to the Eastern regions. Few here accept your Russian trolling, mate! Just get a job in Putin's Troll factory and make it even more obvious and official. :facepalm:
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
But not even by appeasing puppet governments.

If you are referring to Zelensky and his government, Zelensky was elected with 70% of the vote of the Ukrainian people.
This is not Belarus.

Governments paid by an elitist cabal of warmongers overseas.

You have claimed this countless times and never gave any evidence for it.
It's a wild unsupported claim which I will discard at face value until you show the slightest speck of evidence for it.

Monsieur...I remind you that the strong governments in the EU are Italy, Slovakia, Hungary....

"strong" :joycat:

In Germany there is a political crisis...

Which has absolutely nothing to do with Ukraine

due to bad choices taken overseas.

No

He is defending himself from the demonic gang who paid the comedian to invade Kursk.

Cool story, bro

This is not even fictional. It's downright delusional

Ukrainians invaded Russia...so their goal is not to take Donbas back.
So we are just going to ignore everything that happened between Februari 2022 and August 2024?
Or everything that happened since March 2014, for that matter.

You are so far gone, it's not even funny anymore.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
You seem to have ignored much over the last few years - as to Putin invading Ukraine - apart from doing so from 2014 onwards as to the Eastern regions. Few here accept your Russian trolling, mate! Just get a job in Putin's Troll factory and make it even more obvious and official. :facepalm:
Ironically, I don't think Putin will be very fond of hiring a transgender.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
If you are referring to Zelensky and his government, Zelensky was elected with 70% of the vote of the Ukrainian people.
Mussolini too was elected...
then he remained as Prime Minister and dragged Italy into a stupid and idiotic war against Russia.

Zely's mandate has expired.
You have claimed this countless times and never gave any evidence for it.
It's a wild unsupported claim which I will discard at face value until you show the slightest speck of evidence for it.
I wonder why the Dems lost.
They told the American people there is not the money to fund free healthcare.
But there is the money to fund an idiotic war in Eastern Europe...between two brotherly nations.
Yes...strong, dear.
I don't think that Macron Le BonBon has the support of the French Assembly.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with Ukraine
Of course...it does.
Germany needs Russia's natural gas.

The neo-liberist Minister went home.
Long live Socialism.... down with liberism.
So we are just going to ignore everything that happened between Februari 2022 and August 2024?
Or everything that happened since March 2014, for that matter.

You are so far gone, it's not even funny anymore.

Now Trump will fix everything.

Don't worry.
 
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Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Ironically, I don't think Putin will be very fond of hiring a transgender.
You need to stop it with this annoying stereotype.

The person who gave the documents to Assange is a trans woman.

So... a trans woman exposed the war crimes of the Democratic Party...through WikiLeaks.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Mussolini too was elected...
then he remained as Prime Minister and dragged Italy into a stupid and idiotic war against Russia.

Zely's mandate has expired.

I wonder why the Dems lost.
They told the American people there is not the money to fund free healthcare.
But there is the money to fund an idiotic war in Eastern Europe...between two brotherly nations.

Yes...strong, dear.
I don't think that Macron Le BonBon has the support of the French Assembly.


Of course...it does.
Germany needs Russia's natural gas.

The neo-liberist Minister went home.
Long live Socialism.... down with liberism.


Now Trump will fix everything.

Don't worry.
I don't even know what to respond to all this drivel.
You live on your own little planet.

Same as always.... completely bonkers nonsense. You drown in fake news.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member

I am very sorry for the warmongers, but Europeans deserve peace.
The thirst for war can be cured in a psychiatrist's practice. :)
With a good professional.

Peace will triumph after almost 3 years of tensions, refugees coming to EU, death.

I think Putin is well aware that Trump and a Republican Congress may give him highly favorable terms to end the war, such as keeping parts of Ukraine under Russian control. The "peace" would largely consist of a series of concessions to Russian imperialism.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I think Putin is well aware that Trump and a Republican Congress may give him highly favorable terms to end the war, such as keeping parts of Ukraine under Russian control. The "peace" would largely consist of a series of concessions to Russian imperialism.

Russia fears the NATO.

And can you blame her?

NATO contributed to the destruction of Libya. I fear them too.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Russia fears the NATO.
And can you blame her?

Russia has no reasons at all, nor any precedents, to fear NATO.
Meanwhile, Russia's neighbors have extremely good and supported reasons to fear Russia and as a direct result seek shelter under the defensive umbrella of NATO.

NATO contributed to the destruction of Libya. I fear them too.
Lunacy.

And even if true.... Libya is not Russia.
Russia has no reason to fear NATO at all.

NATO for example never threatened to invade or nuke Russia.
I can't even count the amount of times Russia threatened attacking or nuking NATO members even only the past few months.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
You brought up my transsexuality...
something I am proud of.

Good for you.

I just find it strange that you glorify people who are as anti-transexual as they come while at the same time crapping on those that actually fight for your rights.
If it were up to the people that you glorify, you wouldn't even have the right to be transexual. Let alone have any rights while already being transexual

I don't have any issues with transgenders, transsexuals, what-have-you.
But the people you glorify DO. And not even a little bit
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Russia has no reasons at all, nor any precedents, to fear NATO.
Yeah...sure...
with Stoltenberg who admitted they have been training Ukrainians to fight against Russia since 2014.

Are they wizard? Seers? They can predict the future?

Le cazzate no, grazie. Pas de conneries. ;)
Meanwhile, Russia's neighbors have extremely good and supported reasons to fear Russia and as a direct result seek shelter under the defensive umbrella of NATO.
Ah, yeah...the Baltics..
they are not even net contributors in the EU...but act like they are the masters of the EU.

They need to be put in their place and thank God we let them join the union.
Lunacy.

And even if true.... Libya is not Russia.

Libya was our ally and what the NATO did was unforgivable.
NATO for example never threatened to invade or nuke Russia.
I read Wikileaks...dear. I know my sources.
I can't even count the amount of times Russia threatened attacking or nuking NATO members even only the past few months.

We are a NATO member...and Russia never did anything to us.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Yeah...sure...
with Stoltenberg who admitted they have been training Ukrainians to fight against Russia since 2014.

Because of Russian threats.
That's reactionary.
So if you wish to use that as an example of how NATO is a "threat" to Russia, then it is only a threat to them insofar as it presents a stumbling block to Russia's military ambitions to being able to invade countries without those countries have proper means to defend themselves.

So NATO is a "threat" (I'ld rather call it an "obstacle" though) to Russia's expansionism imperialist ambitions.

Okay, sure. But all this confirms is that NATO is a necessary organization to counter Russia's hopes and ambitions of military expansion.
This doesn't show that NATO is a threat to Russia itself.

Find me an example where NATO was a threat to Russia itself instead of merely to Russia's militaristic expansionist ambitions.
Show me the equivalent of Medvedev insinuating / threatening to nuke London, to invade Germany, to expand Russia all the way into Lissabon.

You can't, can you?


Are they wizard? Seers? They can predict the future?

No, they just aren't blinded by Russian propaganda.
They act on proper intel instead of Russian lies.

The war indeed started in 2014. Russia has been operating in Ukraine both directly and indirectly ever since, stirring the pot, funding and populating separatists, organizing militias and leading them, ... Plain sabotage and funding terrorist activities and false flag operations. It's Russia's basic modus operandi. And then lie about it, off course. And people like you swallow it up whole.

Ah, yeah...the Baltics..
they are not even net contributors in the EU...but act like they are the masters of the EU.

Good job ignoring the point made again.

Libya was our ally and what the NATO did was unforgivable.

You mean the UN.
And what Gadaffi did was OK, I presume?

We are a NATO member...and Russia never did anything to us.
Go count how many times these past 2 months they threatened to bomb / attack a NATO country.
Compare that to how many times NATO threatened Russia with attack in the past 2 decades.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Because of Russian threats.
That's reactionary.
So if you wish to use that as an example of how NATO is a "threat" to Russia, then it is only a threat to them insofar as it presents a stumbling block to Russia's military ambitions to being able to invade countries without those countries have proper means to defend themselves.

So NATO is a "threat" (I'ld rather call it an "obstacle" though) to Russia's expansionism imperialist ambitions.

Okay, sure. But all this confirms is that NATO is a necessary organization to counter Russia's hopes and ambitions of military expansion.
This doesn't show that NATO is a threat to Russia itself.

Find me an example where NATO was a threat to Russia itself instead of merely to Russia's militaristic expansionist ambitions.
Show me the equivalent of Medvedev insinuating / threatening to nuke London, to invade Germany, to expand Russia all the way into Lissabon.

You can't, can you?
Ah...yes...the concept of preventive war...
to justify NATO's animalistic and warlike nature.

I have evolved from the animal stage. The NATO hasn't evidently.

I have some news from you: there is diplomacy.
Kant, Voltaire, Rousseau, Montesquieu...
treaties, treaties, treaties.
Not cannons.
No, they just aren't blinded by Russian propaganda.
They act on proper intel instead of Russian lies.
The Soros-owned media are less credible.
I prefer Russian media.

The war indeed started in 2014. Russia has been operating in Ukraine both directly and indirectly ever since, stirring the pot, funding and populating separatists, organizing militias and leading them, ... Plain sabotage and funding terrorist activities and false flag operations. It's Russia's basic modus operandi. And then lie about it, off course. And people like you swallow it up whole.
I love separatism.
It's the respect towards people's right to self-determination.
Good job ignoring the point made again.
You won't answer all of my question. Just 40%.
You mean the UN.
And what Gadaffi did was OK, I presume?
Gaddafi was a true leader.
Absolutely admirable. Great man.

Go count how many times these past 2 months they threatened to bomb / attack a NATO country.
Compare that to how many times NATO threatened Russia with attack in the past 2 decades.

If the NATO were a peaceful organization..it would have solved the Libyan problems with diplomacy.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member

I am very sorry for the warmongers, but Europeans deserve peace.
The thirst for war can be cured in a psychiatrist's practice. :)
With a good professional.

Peace will triumph after almost 3 years of tensions, refugees coming to EU, death.
Putin is massing 50,000 "peace negotiators" as we speak.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Putin is massing 50,000 "peace negotiators" as we speak.

Interesting. It appears that they're planning to attack the region of Russian territory currently occupied by Ukrainian forces. The North Koreans have only sent about 10,000 troops, which isn't that large compared to the overall numbers of troops involved.

The Russian military has assembled a force of 50,000 soldiers, including North Korean troops, as it prepares to begin an assault aimed at reclaiming territory seized by Ukraine in the Kursk region of Russia, according to U.S. and Ukrainian officials.

A new U.S. assessment concludes that Russia has massed the force without having to pull soldiers out of Ukraine’s east — its main battlefield priority — allowing Moscow to press on multiple fronts simultaneously.

Russian troops have been clawing back some of the territory that Ukraine captured in Kursk this year. They have been attacking Ukrainian positions with missile strikes and artillery fire, but they have not yet begun a major assault there, U.S. officials said.

Ukrainian officials say they expect such an attack involving the North Korean troops in the coming days.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The North Koreans have only sent about 10,000 troops, which isn't that large compared to the overall numbers of troops involved.
Does Korean contingent's size somehow
diminish the significance of Putin's planning
to increase the invasion force?
I smell Russophilia in your post.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Does Korean contingent's size somehow
diminish the significance of Putin's planning
to increase the invasion force?

That wasn't really the point. I was just noting that the article you posted referred to an attack force ostensibly set up to retake a small portion of Russian territory currently under Ukrainian occupation.

I smell Russophilia in your post.

You smell Russophilia everywhere.
 
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