Laniakea
Not of this world
Believe his actions.
Putin doesn't invade Ukraine while Trump is president, but does when Biden is.
Is it any surprise Putin would want Biden to stay on as president at this point?
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Putin prefers Biden
- Thread starter Shaul
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Putin doesn't invade Ukraine while Trump is president, but does when Biden is.
Is it any surprise Putin would want Biden to stay on as president at this point?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Putin already is talking nukes again.
Putin goes BOO! ....and Biden JUMPS!
Bear Wild
Well-Known Member
This is ridiculous logic. Trump has given the ok for Putin to invade Europe if he is president and wants to leave nato. The republicans are courting the Russians for information about hunter Biden and want to give Ukraine to the Russians. Biden is standing up to Putin while Trump caters to him. Is there any reason to doubt that Trump is Putin's choice?
Laniakea
Not of this world
I have reason to disregard your post since all of it is Leftist talking points with no evidence to back them up, and makes zero sense.
Rational Agnostic
Well-Known Member
What narcissistic sociopaths say is not typically a good indicator of what's actually true, or of what they actually think....
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
The article had plenty of Putin going "Boo!" (figuratively), but I didn't read anything about Biden jumping (figuratively or literally).
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Your post also had no evidence. Incidentally, while Russia may not have invaded Ukraine in Trump's term, it didn't mean the Ukraine War hadn't already begun.
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Bear Wild
Well-Known Member
No it is from listening to trump and the republicans. I don’t like Biden but on this point it is the republicans that are encouraging Putin. What a reversal of roles.
Bear Wild
Well-Known Member
Like make American great again when they now mean make me great again at the expense of America!!!!
Laniakea
Not of this world
You're referring to Putin, right? People don't like him, so they don't believe him when he says he prefers Biden. Yet people say the same nasty things about Trump as they do about Putin, and yet hang on every word he says. If he says he's going to be a dictator on Day One, they believe him, even though they have to edit what he actually said. They still believe him.
It seems that people who hate either Putin or Trump or anyone else is only going to believe whatever they think of them in the first place.
Laniakea
Not of this world
Trump encouraged NATO nations to do their part. How can the NATO alliance work if the members don't do their fair share?
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
It's rational thinking.
-Trump attempted to remain in power through unscrupulous means and is attempting to gain Presidential immunity (similar to Putin's political immunity). These are the actions of a potential dictator. Even if he is joking, it is a serious enough threat to warrant caution.
-NATO is a major check to Putin's power. Biden has supported NATO whereas Trump did not. Biden has supported Ukraine whereas the MAGA Republicans have been blocking aid to them. The evidence supports that Biden is a greater threat to Putin than Trump, therefore, Putin is lying.
Rational Agnostic
Well-Known Member
Yes I was referring to Putin, but I don't hang on every word Trump says either. There is a difference though. Putin is more cold and manipulative and calculating than Trump though, Trump is just a loudmouth idiot and an a$$hole (and likely a criminal). Putin is cold and calculated and CONSTANTLY lies, he is quite possibly a genuine psychopath.
Laniakea
Not of this world
They got the aid they wanted. If they can't figure out after 2 years how to use it to win a battle, then giving them even more is a sign that Ukraine is just going to be another decades-long financial black hole for us to waste money and other resources on.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Whether that's true or not, that doesn't change the fact that Putin would prefer them not getting the aid. So why would he prefer Biden over Trump?
Bear Wild
Well-Known Member
Trump meets associates with Putin, the leader of North Korea, and the leader of Hungary. All associated with dictatorships. He does not associate with any of the nato leaders, nor Australia, nor Canada nor any of the democratic Countries. Putin loves Trump and the Nato leaders feel he will abandon them. Trump says Putin should do whatever the hell he wants. I am sure Putin is just terrified of those words. This means that during a Trump presidency he can invade the rest of Europe and trump will encourage him. So many decision of where to invade next with the support of Trump.
Laniakea
Not of this world
If the "aid" is mostly financial aid to fund the retirement of Ukrainian officials, and to enable the Nazi party in Ukraine to thrive, why would Putin feel threatened by such "aid"?
Laniakea
Not of this world
None of which explains why no new wars were started when Trump was president, but they sure got going once biden stepped into the WH.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
And if the aid is to support the Ukrainian military in their fight against the Russian invasion, why wouldn't he feel threatened?
Laniakea
Not of this world
Because, "If" that's what it's for, Putin/Russia has had the past 2 years of opportunity to feel threatened. Over a hundred billion dollars of our money, Abrams M1 tanks, F-16 fighters, anti-tank missiles, HIMAR missiles, hundreds of thousands of rounds of 155mm artillery shells, etc. over the past 2 years has clearly not worked. More of the same will be no different.