Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
S/he asked you to support your claims, not pretend you didn't make them.
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Question For Wiccans
- Thread starter Flavius
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Nimrod.
Genisis 10:8 The sons of Ham, Cush Begat Nimrod.
Ham is the son of Noah.
Well, I'll Leave off talking in this forum, If it's this way.
What is it?
Is this forum created to use against Christians and all you have to do is say,'' sources?
What are sources besides somebody elses story that they are telling?
It is what I believe, If you had to give a source for everything you said, It wouldn't get very far, and if it's all myth to you guys, what's the difference?
I aint never seen so many crybabies.
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What are your sources?
My opinions.
Gentoo
The Feisty Penguin
What do you want us to do, drop our opinions and adopt yours?
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
The Bible isn't a source on any mythology but yours.
Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
No, this forum is created for people who know how to support their claims.
History and science.
I don't make claims I can't support. You might want to learn from that.
Says the guy who can't stop whining just because we don't swallow his bull.
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fallingblood
Agnostic Theist
This is in the debate forum. If you are going to purpose an idea, it is logical that you would support it. If we don't know your sources, it becomes rather hard to actually debate you as we are not sure if you are just making something up, or if there is seriously some evidence. That doesn't mean that one has to cite everything they say though, but they should be able to either cite a source, or provide reason why that particular idea is correct.
As we have seen here, much of this is your opinion. That is fine, but really isn't suitable for debate. If your opinion is based on faith, then there is no debate. You have all the right to believe this, but it isn't really worth putting into a debate forum.
Now, as for the flood story, there is no evidence that it actually happened. The only defense people have is that various cultures have flood stories. That simply is not proof, and is actually expected. Modern cultures have flood stories. The difference is that we are aware of a wider world.
We can look at historical records, and see there was no major flood. We can look at the flood story, and see that it is completely implausible. We can look at archeology, and see no evidence at all (no global markers of a flood as would be expected, and no evidence of a massive destruction of millions of animals (a flash flood like that would have been responsible for many fossils), no evidence of a later world wide migration and repopulation), we can even just look at the cultures of different areas and see that the supposed floods happened at different times and that there were cultures active during the supposed flood.
Any world history book will show at least the last to be true.
As we have seen here, much of this is your opinion. That is fine, but really isn't suitable for debate. If your opinion is based on faith, then there is no debate. You have all the right to believe this, but it isn't really worth putting into a debate forum.
Now, as for the flood story, there is no evidence that it actually happened. The only defense people have is that various cultures have flood stories. That simply is not proof, and is actually expected. Modern cultures have flood stories. The difference is that we are aware of a wider world.
We can look at historical records, and see there was no major flood. We can look at the flood story, and see that it is completely implausible. We can look at archeology, and see no evidence at all (no global markers of a flood as would be expected, and no evidence of a massive destruction of millions of animals (a flash flood like that would have been responsible for many fossils), no evidence of a later world wide migration and repopulation), we can even just look at the cultures of different areas and see that the supposed floods happened at different times and that there were cultures active during the supposed flood.
Any world history book will show at least the last to be true.
Gentoo
The Feisty Penguin
Do you think the global flood story (since so many different cultures have one) could be ancestral memory from post-glacial times in man's history? Just postulating... off-topic though it is...
enchanted_one1975
Resident Lycanthrope
Opinions are like buttholes. Everyone has one and they all stink. :yes:
Rainbow Mage
Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
Yes, Wep Ronpet. To be exact, Heru-Wer was also born during this time- Horus the Elder. Horus the Elder, Wesir, Aset, Set, and Nebthet
fallingblood
Agnostic Theist
It could be possible. Oral tradition would some what explain the various ideas surrounding it.
Comicaze247
See the previous line
They're not just Wiccan holidays. Pagan holidays in general, having dated back long before Christianity.
LoTrobador
Active Member
Would two celebrations held on the same day, but both having different focus, necessarily be the same celebration (only celebrated by two different groups)? To illustrate my point:
Year 1
Group A celebrates event A on a particular date X.
Year 2
Group A celebrates event A on a particular date X.
Group B celebrates event B on the same date.
Both groups celebrate outwardly in exactly the same way, but different events.
Does group A celebrate event B? Does group B celebrate event A? Do both gropus celebrate the same event? Are both celebrations the same celebration?
Year 1
Group A celebrates event A on a particular date X.
Year 2
Group A celebrates event A on a particular date X.
Group B celebrates event B on the same date.
Both groups celebrate outwardly in exactly the same way, but different events.
Does group A celebrate event B? Does group B celebrate event A? Do both gropus celebrate the same event? Are both celebrations the same celebration?
Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
exactly....
this is such a fluffy bunny thread its ridiculous
:sarcastic even if you extend it to paganism as a whole
Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
Its amazing...!
ancient aboriginal americans cooked potatoes....
as such then, modern western people have stolen practises from native americans!:foot:
Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
ah this is a bible literalist poo poos paganism thread!
even more boring and pathetic!
Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
many countries celebrate a jolly fat man that gives presents to children on Dsecember 25th......do you believe he exists?
to quote Groucho Marx "Sanity clause? There aint no sanity claus"
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