The ancients knew the earth was round, what they did not know for the most part was that the earth is spherical.And it does not need much: some thing as simple as "the earth is round and rotates around the sun" would suffice.
In my opinion.
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The ancients knew the earth was round, what they did not know for the most part was that the earth is spherical.And it does not need much: some thing as simple as "the earth is round and rotates around the sun" would suffice.
Why are we talking about minds as opposed to brains?I don't believe slow evolution is possible nor features like minds can come out because they are irreducible complex in design, different minds can evolve to different minds sure, but the design of a non-mind to a mind can't happen through natural selection and few random mutations, it will never go "on" and there is no guided direction to it, because it's a binary thing, either there is a mind or not.
SImple, if we knew that some of those Scriptures show sign of advanced knowledge (more advanced than what was available at that time), we would know by now. In the same we would know immediately if we found advanced technology which several thousands years old. And it does not need much: some thing as simple as "the earth is round and rotates around the sun" would suffice.
Alas, we never heard of that. Ergo, no Scripture shows signs of being other than mythology. aka, human creations.
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- viole
Since this is a debate forum, I feel entitled to post whenever I want. And you are losing your cool
Well, it is a direct consequence of our scientific theories. Usually scientists do not write papers depicting the obvious. I am sure it will also be difficult to find research that shows that apples fall from trees also in general relativity.
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- viole
The machine is the brain. Evolution is only concerned with the physical, it does not have any bearing on how ghosts came to be in the slightestI'm talking about mind. I'm not talking about large self-awareness, this is not what I mean. I mean any ghost at all in the machine.
Yes.And that is exactly because I never heard of them.So since you never heard something, you have the capacity of making positive claims based on what you have never heard?
Because any physical state is reducible to prior information. IOW: you cannot surprise the Universe without breaking virtually all physical laws known to man. The same is confirmed by relativity, which suggests a block Universe in which the future is already set and already existing, so to speak.So which scientist with what research found out there is no free will?
A human said their first as conscious human memory is deceased. Human parents. Memories.That is a mystery to science also. But this is not about the universe, just about species. Science's explanation is simply that every living being (except the first) is a descendent from the first living being. We call that process evolution. (And I think you agree to that, don't you?)
But what is the alternative to evolution?
So which scientist with what research found out there is no free will?
Scientists have not determined there is 'no free will,'
Because any physical state is reducible to prior information. IOW: you cannot surprise the Universe without breaking virtually all physical laws known to man. The same is confirmed by relativity, which suggests a block Universe in which the future is already set and already existing, so to speak.
Of course, this is the case for libertarian free will. In case of free will, under a deterministic regime, then you will need to assume a compatibilstic view. Which is what most philosophers actually do, given that, again, all laws we know are unitarian, and leave therefore no space for libertarian free will.
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- viole
Yes.And that is exactly because I never heard of them.
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- viole
That was the claim that was made. But thanks for the information.
Which scientist?
There was more substance to my post than this.
As referenced in my post Libet is one scientist that has research greatly limiting the concept of free will. Of course, making absolute claims in any discipline is just not science.
If you wish to discuss consciousness, its a fabulous topic and your knowledge on that would be greatly appreciated. I would like to open a new thread on this and if you are okay with it, I will tag you on a post.
Nope. But I think it is reasonable that if there were a creation story which would show knowledge which was not available at the time of its writing, we would know about it. The believer would say: Look! My creation history describes exactly how things have been created according to modern science. Only God could have known that at that time.So you have never heard of something because that something doesnt exist?
Well, all physical scientists. Especially the ones working in fundamental physics, relativity, QM and such. Strange question.Which scientist?
Well, all physical scientists. Especially the ones working in fundamental physics, relativity, QM and such. Strange question.