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Questions about Islam

LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Deidre said:
I experienced life as an atheist for the past two years. And have been an "anti" theist for nearly four years. I agree with your thoughts here because if you do things out of fear or obligation, or because of the beliefs of your family etc...your heart will not be in it. Theism can seem cold and uninviting at times. I cannot prove that god exists but I can say that I had a huge "god shaped void" during the past year, and I can only say...I'm not one of those people who doesn't need spiritualism. I do and while I don't "need" Islam, my heart is open to it. We have to follow our hearts ...for then we will be most fulfilled. Theist or atheist, we will find happiness where we find hope, love and joy.
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Fair enough, but how do you define spiritualism? How necessary is belief in a deity for it?
 
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Deidre

Well-Known Member
LuisDantas said:
Fair enough, but how do you define spiritualism? How necessary is belief in a deity for it?
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It is defined differently by everyone. I have a pretty great secular life but for the past year, something has been missing. I equate peace with God. Perhaps it is from being a Christian for so long, but I equate peace and fulfillment with prayer, and the idea that a god is there. I can't prove him...but I feel at peace when I open my heart to the possibility of him.

Islam's prayers and teachings are beautiful to me and give me fulfillment that my secular life cannot. Hard to explain, I guess.
 
Servant_of_the_One1

Servant_of_the_One1

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Deidre said:
It is defined differently by everyone. I have a pretty great secular life but for the past year, something has been missing. I equate peace with God. Perhaps it is from being a Christian for so long, but I equate peace and fulfillment with prayer, and the idea that a god is there. I can't prove him...but I feel at peace when I open my heart to the possibility of him.

Islam's prayers and teachings are beautiful to me and give me fulfillment that my secular life cannot. Hard to explain, I guess.
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Deidre, waking up early in the morning for the fajr(morning) prayer gives overwelming feeling. Spiritual feeling. I hope u can experience that too. If u make ur heart open for Allah swt, ask Allah to guide you Insha Allah He will answer ur prayers :)
 
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Deidre

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Servant_of_the_One said:
Deidre, waking up early in the morning for the fajr(morning) prayer gives overwelming feeling. Spiritual feeling. I hope u can experience that too. If u make ur heart open for Allah swt, ask Allah to guide you Insha Allah He will answer ur prayers :)
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I agree but waking up early doesn't come easy for me! :p But, of the times this week when I've prayed the Fajr prayer, yes it was a beautiful way to begin the day. :)
 
Sha'irullah

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Servant_of_the_One said:
Dude relaxt, that shahz sees islam and muslims as his enemies is visible from his posts. The guy threatened to invade Pakistan seize its nukes and forcefully annex it :D
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Um . . . I agree with him. A trouble to humanity is a trouble to anyone. If a Muslim or my own brother becomes a genocidal maniac I have no issues showing aggression. I do not care what part of the Ummah you are from.

If iam wrong, let him say so .
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If you think violence for no justified cause is logical then by that default I can assume your affiliation to terrorism right off the bat. I have known many Muslims like you.
Nothing impressive exists in your kind and nothing impressive will result in it. I never showed tolerance towards fellow atheist or fellow Muslims when they behave stupidly and this is why I have no affiliations with either side as a collective.

Shahz's responses are very rational because I have experienced MANY Muslims act badly. They are often illogical, deprived of ethical behavior and horrendous people.

It is not their religion but the people they admire. A religion can be as violent, oppressive or backwarded as it wants to be. Christianity for example is backwarded yet look at the countries spawned from it who profess to be Christian nations.

If I find something disagreeable in the Qur'an that escapes the realm of reason I dis-acknowledge it's validity.
You say Allah is al-Hakim and al-Alim yet nothing many Muslims do support this.

Homosexuality is a natural thing for example. Obviously Allah(swt) has not made something natural forbidden. Obviously it is all powerful and is not denied of this unless proven otherwise. This is the best logic when looking at any religion
If you say you submit to the will of Allah and believe he has a plan then assuredly he cannot be a hypocrite
 
gsa

gsa

Well-Known Member
Deidre said:
I agree...do you feel Islam lessens these things for a person?
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Personally, I do. I think that it is possible to be a progressive or liberal Muslim, but I think your options are quite limited; much more so than if you converted to Judaism or began attending a more liberal Christian church. I also think you may underestimate Islamic demands of female adherents.

Of course, if you think that these things are true, then why would that be a barrier? But I strongly suspect that what you find attractive about Islam can be found in more liberal traditions.
 
Sha'irullah

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Saint Frankenstein said:
Okay. I'd also like to know what you think Islam will offer you that Christianity, specifically Catholicism (because I think you mentioned you were Catholic before), cannot.
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:mad: Damn you filthy infidel!

Kidding aside though I find it almost inappropriate you say such a thing. I understand how you feel about Catholicism but asking a former Catholic about their past is not always great if it bring up bad memories. Why do you think I never discuss my previous life as a Muslim?
I play it off to a lot to just avoid having the conversation
 
Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Sha'irullah said:
:mad: Damn you filthy infidel!

Kidding aside though I find it almost inappropriate you say such a thing. I understand how you feel about Catholicism but asking a former Catholic about their past is not always great if it bring up bad memories. Why do you think I never discuss my previous life as a Muslim?
I play it off to a lot to just avoid having the conversation
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Well, that wasn't my intention. I wasn't asking about her past, man. I was just asking a general question about her spiritual search. :mad:
 
Sha'irullah

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Saint Frankenstein said:
Well, that wasn't my intention. I wasn't asking about her past, man. I was just asking a general question about her spiritual search. :mad:
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DAMN YOU INFIDELS! :mad:

Seriously though, last I recall Deidre is not all that willing to go back to Catholicism.
I apologize also because you have been gone for a very long time and you would obviously not be familiar with Dre-chan. Excuse my forgetful Franky-san
 
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