SavedByTheLord
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Questions that evolutionists and billions of years proponents cannot answer but disprove their theories.
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Subduction Zone
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There isn't too much C14, you are listening to idiots and liars again. And there are no such things as "polonium haloes". That definitely comes from one specific lying creationist. Man, they sure abused you by playing you as a sucker. You should be mad at them for insulting your intelligence.
But you have told us that you come from an abusive sect of Christianity. The various KJV only sects use threats and lies to keep their members in check. The members will believe almost any lie told to them as a result.
SavedByTheLord
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Wow all you disagree with evolution and billions of years you name call.
McBell
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Subduction Zone
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Where did I name call?
First, please provide those bible quotes that you say show modern cosmology, as I asked you for above in #513.
Second, please tell me what duty you think Christians owe to honesty and frankness when dealing with other people.
Third, you can read about the Big Bang for yourself >here<.
SavedByTheLord
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Genesis 1 gives most of it.
All crested in 6 days about 6000 years ago,
No no no no no.
The quotes I gave you say what I said they say. They accord with the cosmology of Babylon and ─ contrary to what you're claiming ─ NOT the cosmology of 2023.
So give chapter and verse quoted in full of those parts of the bible that you say demonstrate the cosmology of 2023. Vaguely waving at Genesis and saying "It's in there" won't cut it.
Or admit you can't.
Do what a truthful, frank person would do.
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SavedByTheLord
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Genesis 1, 3, 6-8 and scattered verses throughout the Bible.
Subduction Zone
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I think that he wants specific verses. You should bring them up one at a time and explain how they support your views. Just listing a bunch of verses allows other to apply the Gish Gallop Law, refute one and you refute them all when they are presented en masse.
FAIL.
You're trying to bluff your way out of this, it appears.
Identify the particular claim you made. Cite and quote the particular verse that you rely on to demonstrate the correctness of your claim.
You saw how I presented my argument ─ chapter, verse, quotation, summary. Do ye likewise.
And thereby reassure me about your honesty.
SavedByTheLord
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Read Genesis so that you can learn the truth.
BTW, how did the laws of nature come into being according to your opinion?
So you frankly admit there are no quotations in the bible that support your claims! This is progress!
And as a bonus, now you know that the bible says the earth is flat, and immovably fixed, and the sun goes round it, and the sky is a hard dome and the stars are attached to it &c &c, exactly as I showed you, and quoted to you, and gave you references for.
It's a question still being examined.
But if the claim is that they came into being by magic, well, we can rule that out with an extremely high degree of confidence.
SavedByTheLord
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Read Genesis and learn. They are all quotations.
If you'd read it yourself you'd know that you have no answer to the quotes I gave you.
But let me assist you in your self-improvement program as a Christian by drawing Proverbs 12:22 to your attention ─ something you obviously haven't thought about yet.
SavedByTheLord
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Obviously you need to heed Prov 12:22 and stop yourself from doing that
SkepticThinker
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SkepticThinker
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You haven't provided a single quotation yet. Burden of proof is yours, bub.
Come on, show us you can participate in an actual two-way conversation like a rational adult.
SavedByTheLord
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Genesis 1
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Subduction Zone
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I need to remind you and probably @blü 2 as well, that implying that others are lying is now a no no. He clearly did not lie. I do not think that you lied either. But you do have a problem with information that would refute your beliefs. Such as all of the verses in the Bible that describe the Earth as being flat in word and deed. If one did not interpret the Bible 100% literally there are outs for these verses, but if one is a literalist it does cause contradictions.