Racial Hatred

[Kooky]

I have a fairly obvious one. The recent shootings in Atlanta Georgia were not "race based". Are you familiar with the story?

So it was sheer coincidence that the perp just so happened to exclusively target massage salons owned and staffed by Asian people in a violent criminal act that was neither a robbery nor a family or relationship issue. And you are saying this based on certain evidence that you can use to support your case, instead of your personal, subjective interpretation of events that could just as easily interpreted in the opposite way. Right?

 

[Subduction Zone]

So it was sheer coincidence that the perp just so happened to exclusively target massage salons owned and staffed by Asian people in a violent criminal act that was neither a robbery nor a family or relationship issue. And you are saying this based on certain evidence that you can use to support your case, instead of your personal, subjective interpretation of events that could just as easily interpreted in the opposite way. Right?

And this is proof of an extended media agenda or conspiracy to make White mass murderers look bad.

No, no no. Not coincidence. Luckily you appear to be naive in this area. I learned about Asian massage parlors when one opened up next to my business. Asian massage parlors are very often just fronts for prostitution. This is not a racist statement against Asians, it is a sad fact of economics. In western Europe most prostitutes come from poor eastern European countries. That is not a racist statement against eastern Europeans. The places that run those places tend to go to areas where they can find a reliable source of poor people willing to do almost anything to leave.

The shooter was a customer of those places. He went to a Christian group that tried to pray the horny away for him. He eventually decided to solve his problem by attacking the massage parlors that he used to go to. If the economic situation caused black people to work at such places he would have shot black people. If the places that he went to hired white women he would have shot white women.

It was still a hate crime, but since prostitutes are not a part of a protected group it will not be prosecuted that way.

In other words, it was not "coincidence" it was economics. Try to avoid using false dichotomies. And try to reason logically instead of emotionally for once. It really helps.

 

[We Never Know]

So it was sheer coincidence that the perp just so happened to exclusively target massage salons owned and staffed by Asian people in a violent criminal act that was neither a robbery nor a family or relationship issue. And you are saying this based on certain evidence that you can use to support your case, instead of your personal, subjective interpretation of events that could just as easily interpreted in the opposite way. Right?

ATLANTA — Authorities said the suspect in the deadly rampage at three metro Atlanta spas targeted the businesses because he had “issues” with sexual addiction and had been planning to commit more shootings before he was captured.

The Cherokee County Sheriff said the suspect, Robert Aaron Long, 21, of Woodstock, claimed the shootings were not racially motivated. The sheriff described it as “targets of opportunity” and said Long told investigators he wanted to “eliminate the temptation.”
Channel 2′s Chris Jose learned that Long allegedly targeted businesses that he had been to before.


Georgia spa shootings: Suspect confesses, claims he was not racially motivated, sheriff says

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Oh, isn't that the guy who believes eating soy products turns men gay?

I don't know about that, but soy has estrogenic compounds in it.

 

[JustGeorge]

I don't know about that, but soy has estrogenic compounds in it.

It may, but I'm fairly certain it has no effect on one's masculine/feminine influence...

My seven year old eats it by the truckload, and there's not a thing girly about him(other than the rainbow hat with the flower he seems to prefer).

My 14 year old turns his nose up at it, and he's actually fairly feminine...

I eat it frequently, and I've never been accused of being overly feminine, either.

You are what you are. Don't think food affects personality much(other than perhaps stimulants).

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

It may, but I'm fairly certain it has no effect on one's masculine/feminine influence...

My seven year old eats it by the truckload, and there's not a thing girly about him(other than the rainbow hat with the flower he seems to prefer).

My 14 year old turns his nose up at it, and he's actually fairly feminine...

I eat it frequently, and I've never been accused of being overly feminine, either.

You are what you are. Don't think food affects personality much(other than perhaps stimulants).

From what I've read, it can have weak effects:
https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/what-does-soy-actually-do-to-your-hormones

I don't eat it, anyway. I'm not the one who brought soy up. Lol.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm glad that we could agree on the widely accepted fact that racist police violence is a thing that exists.

Too bad we can't agree in the far larger
problem of police violence against all.

 

[Augustus]

Is racial hatred a mental health issue?

No.

It is a harmful byproduct that can emerge from an evolved function in the 'normal' human brain combined with the environment we live in.

We like to pathologise the darker aspects of human nature as some form of 'error', but this is just a bit of feel-good myth making.

 

[Nakosis]

No.

It is a harmful byproduct that can emerge from an evolved function in the 'normal' human brain combined with the environment we live in.

We like to pathologise the darker aspects of human nature as some form of 'error', but this is just a bit of feel-good myth making.

You don't think the environment we live in can cause mental health issues?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Is racial hatred a mental health issue?

There has been a lot of racial hatred news lately. I don't get it, don't understand it. Why attack a person for no other reason than their race?

Asians being attacked because of Covid-19. I don't get the connection. How did the random Asian on the street cause you personal harm?

You arrest the culprit, but them in jail, does this really solve the problem?
Should this be addressed as a psychological issue that ought to be addressed by psychiatric counseling?

I think its tribal. Birds of a feather mentality.

I think people see things differently and sometimes that difference gets precieved as a threat and it goes extreme.

 

[Kooky]

Too bad we can't agree in the far larger
problem of police violence against all.

Why not? Earlier you seemed fairly accepting of the idea that police violence occurs.

 

[Revoltingest]

Why not? Earlier you seemed fairly accepting of the idea that police violence occurs.

Do you now accept it?

 

[Nakosis]

I think its tribal. Birds of a feather mentality.

I think people see things differently and sometimes that difference gets precieved as a threat and it goes extreme.

What about prejudice?
People don't decide to be prejudice, they just are.

I think about the police, I suspect most really believe they are not prejudiced but statistics point the other direction.
I don't think they make a conscious choice to act differently toward other races but they do.
They are not aware of their own prejudice. Even if trained, even if made consciously aware of "racism" I don't think this will alter their behavior.

 

[Kooky]

I don't know about that, but soy has estrogenic compounds in it.

So does a lot of plant based food. The "estrogenic compounds" in question are phytoestrogens, which are structurally similar to human estrogenic hormones but otherwise are unrelated to them, and have so far not been shown to react with the human organism at all. It may or may not react with our gut bacteria in ways that have potentially positive health effects, but to my knowledge, that hasn't been proven conclusively, either.

What Paul Joseph Watson is argueing is flat out pseudoscience, with an atrocious amount of misreading of scientific and pop-scientific sources.

 

[Kooky]

Do you now accept it?

Please read post #52, the second post I made in this thread.

I do have to give credit for your amusing attempt to paint me as supportive of police violence - I find it hilarious in how far it misses the mark on my actual position.

 

[Kooky]

What about prejudice?
People don't decide to be prejudice, they just are.

I think about the police, I suspect most really believe they are not prejudiced but statistics point the other direction.
I don't think they make a conscious choice to act differently toward other races but they do.
They are not aware of their own prejudice. Even if trained, even if made consciously aware of "racism" I don't think this will alter their behavior.

I would argue that people aren't born with their existing prejudice, they are being raised that way. We tend to adapt to the society we live in, and we take its values as our own - and these values include certain 'accepted truths' or truisms that we usually tend to accept unquestioningly as 'how things are' or 'how things are supposed to be'.

Segregation along ethnic, racial, or even economic lines seems to contribute towards greater prejudice against those who are different. I believe there are studies showing that the children of interracial couples tend to show less overt prejudice against either of their parent's race, and I definitely recall a study where people slowly became less racist towards foreigners the closer they were interacting with them - we are, after all, all human beings at our core.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

So does a lot of plant based food. The "estrogenic compounds" in question are phytoestrogens, which are structurally similar to human estrogenic hormones but otherwise are unrelated to them, and have so far not been shown to react with the human organism at all. It may or may not react with our gut bacteria in ways that have potentially positive health effects, but to my knowledge, that hasn't been proven conclusively, either.

What Paul Joseph Watson is argueing is flat out pseudoscience, with an atrocious amount of misreading of scientific and pop-scientific sources.

That's nice, but it's off topic and not what that video is about.

 

[Revoltingest]

I do have to give credit for your amusing attempt to paint me as....

Just aping your own tactic.
Best to avoid it in the future.

 

[Kooky]

Just aping your own tactic.
Best to avoid it in the future.

I have no idea what you are trying to say, or if you are even saying anything at all here.
Perhaps you could try to be more blunt, instead of couching your comments in oblique references to vague allusions that I'm not going to understand anyway.

 

[Revoltingest]

I have no idea what you are trying to say, or if you are even saying anything at all here.
Perhaps you could try to be more blunt, instead of couching your comments in oblique references to vague allusions that I'm not going to understand anyway.

Exactly.