Reasons for believing in the Bible as the literal word of God.

[YoursTrue]

Fortunately I haven't been two years old in quite some time.

That's good I guess. Meantime maybe you can find out what others who claim to believe in evolution, and also belong to or go to church, think about everlasting life and Bible prophecies.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Nor are people's interpretations of prophecies which lead them to believe they know what is going to happen.

What about Bahai interpretations?

Meantime maybe you can find out what others who claim to believe in evolution, and also belong to or go to church, think about everlasting life and Bible prophecies.

How does the thinking of others make a difference?(Appeal to popularity fallacy)
I go by my thinking.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Nuclear War is Not a creative interpretation. There was No Nuclear threat before the last century.

True -- but irrelevant insofar as Biblical prophecy is concerned.

Science and technology was Not as advanced as it is right now, and Science and technology can't solve mankind's food and disease problems.

Sure they can -- but politics and economics won't let them. See the difference?

Every year, the US alone allows an estimated 133 BILLION pounds of food to go to waste. That'd be more than enough to give every man, woman, and child on the planet 3 square meals a day...

... but we can't just give that food away, now can we? Can't give the poor their daily bread without making them work for it... that would send them the wrong message.

(Source: Food Loss and Waste )

Never before in history has the good news (gospel) about God's Kingdom (Daniel 2:44) been proclaimed on a grand-international scale as is being now done world wide just as Jesus said at Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8.

But it can be better... Why should God settle for a halfhearted job?

Thus, finally mankind is at the ' final phase ' of Matt. 24:14; Mark 13:10 with modern technology making rapid Bible translation possible so that now people living even in remote areas of Earth can now have Scripture in their mother tongue or native languages.
This means we are nearing the ' final signal ', so to speak (1st Thess. 5:2-3) when the powers in charge will be saying, " Peace and Security...." as the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14 before Jesus as Prince of Peace ushers in global Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill.

No, no, no... you're assuming that modern technology is the end point - you're assuming that this is as good as it can possibly get.
For example, having Scripture in native languages is nice; having a 100% global literacy rate would be nicer. (Currently the planet's at 86%)

You're looking for signs when even Jesus himself said He didn't know...

 

[TLK Valentine]

Not a lot of wish, but a lot of what is scriptural.
We are all invited to pray the invitation to God for Jesus to come ! - Rev. 22:20
And according to Scripture coupled with the world scene today that coming is coming sooner than mankind thinks - Rev. 22:2
The coming of the coming is coming like a run away freight train on fire.

You think you're the first to think the coming is nigh?
Or the thousandth?
Or even the millionth?

 

[TLK Valentine]

That's good I guess. Meantime maybe you can find out what others who claim to believe in evolution, and also belong to or go to church, think about everlasting life and Bible prophecies.

Thanks, but I already know what some of them think... if you're curious, you can ask them yourself.

 

[YoursTrue]

Thanks, but I already know what some of them think... if you're curious, you can ask them yourself.

I have, they get really upset.

 

[Audie]

Not a lot of wish, but a lot of what is scriptural.
We are all invited to pray the invitation to God for Jesus to come ! - Rev. 22:20
And according to Scripture coupled with the world scene today that coming is coming sooner than mankind thinks - Rev. 22:2
The coming of the coming is coming like a run away freight train on fire.

The things can people can convince themselves
to believe.
As a psych prof remarked, people seem to have
and unlimited ability to deceive themselves.

 

[metis]

Difference is: Revelation was written at the very end of the first century.
1st-century people did Not have the Book of Revelation.
Revelation's setting (Rev. 1:10) is set for our day or time frame.
Rev. 1:1 speaks of ' come to pass....' ( future) Not came to pass.

It was written near the end of the 1st century and rather clearly reflects that experience. However, that experience continued on with greater or lesser extremes until the 4th century.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I have, they get really upset.

That's odd -- many of them tell me that whether or not they evolved has no bearing whatsoever on Jesus' promises of salvation or everlasting life... and they never seem to get upset about it.

Might I ask how you ask them? Maybe it's your approach...

 

[YoursTrue]

That's odd -- many of them tell me that whether or not they evolved has no bearing whatsoever on Jesus' promises of salvation or everlasting life... and they never seem to get upset about it.

Might I ask how you ask them? Maybe it's your approach...

I don't know. I tend to get detailed and people don't like to reveal themselves in my opinion. But here's the thing: in order for a person to believe in the process of evolution, they must overcome that Jesus came from heaven to be born as a babe without a human causing Mary to become pregnant.

 

[YoursTrue]

True -- but irrelevant insofar as Biblical prophecy is concerned.




Sure they can -- but politics and economics won't let them. See the difference?

Every year, the US alone allows an estimated 133 BILLION pounds of food to go to waste. That'd be more than enough to give every man, woman, and child on the planet 3 square meals a day...

... but we can't just give that food away, now can we? Can't give the poor their daily bread without making them work for it... that would send them the wrong message.

Ok might I ask what you think that wrong message might be? I remember learning about Machiavelli when I was in school. I was slightly fascinated. I also wonder about kings and queens and other things like that. For instance here where we live there are many low paid workers who work very hard for rich people. And/or corporations. When I worked for a educational corporation I always wondered about that. I know it sounds strange, or doesn't it, but highly paid workers were not those cleaning bathrooms. But it was a necessary job. Both were, I might add.

You're looking for signs when even Jesus himself said He didn't know...

At the time he didn't know. Things happened since he went back to heaven, wouldn't you agree?

 

[URAVIP2ME]

The things can people can convince themselves
to believe.
As a psych prof remarked, people seem to have
and unlimited ability to deceive themselves.

I find the reason why people have unlimited ability to deceive oneself is because God allows that, so if a person wants to believe a lie they can.
- 2nd Thessalonians 2:11; 2nd Timothy 4:3-4

 

[URAVIP2ME]

It was written near the end of the 1st century and rather clearly reflects that experience. However, that experience continued on with greater or lesser extremes until the 4th century.

Bible canon was established early on, so all the ' church ' had to do was testify as to what was already accepted in the first century.
Ancient manuscripts support Bible canon.
The apocryphal books simply exclude themselves being out of harmony with the harmonious '66' books of Bible canon.
The harmonious '66' have corresponding cross-reference verses and passages showing the internal harmony among the Bible writers.

 

[Audie]

I find the reason why people have unlimited ability to deceive oneself is because God allows that, so if a person wants to believe a lie they can.
- 2nd Thessalonians 2:11; 2nd Timothy 4:3-4

You " find " that.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

True -- but irrelevant insofar as Biblical prophecy is concerned.
Sure they can -- but politics and economics won't let them. See the difference?
Every year, the US alone allows an estimated 133 BILLION pounds of food to go to waste. That'd be more than enough to give every man, woman, and child on the planet 3 square meals a day...
... but we can't just give that food away, now can we? Can't give the poor their daily bread without making them work for it... that would send them the wrong message.
(Source: Food Loss and Waste )
But it can be better... Why should God settle for a halfhearted job?
No, no, no... you're assuming that modern technology is the end point - you're assuming that this is as good as it can possibly get.
For example, having Scripture in native languages is nice; having a 100% global literacy rate would be nicer. (Currently the planet's at 86%)
You're looking for signs when even Jesus himself said He didn't know...

Whatever is causing the world problems ( Luke 21:11 ) does Not mean the problem does Not exist.
MAN's long history shows that MAN has dominated MAN to MAN's hurt, MAN"s injury - Ecclesiastes 8:9
Jesus did Not know the day or hour, but he informed us to be alert as to the season we are in - Matthew 24:36; Mark 13:32-37
When Spring is near we see blossoming proof.
Years ago the evilness of true evil was just getting started.
Cyber technology (wars) now helps hide criminals from being seen, even possible trigger-happy nuclear power people.
The ' genie is out of the bottle ' and 2nd Tim 3:13 is spreading like wild fire throughout the world embedded in all levels of society today.
The potential for doing good is now multiplied for the potential for doing bad, doing harm. ( Lab leaks today )
Are your personal medical records data protected, or is it showing distain for law or rules of law.
At this point, there is No more containing from the too much badness we see in tech business and who holds governments accountable ?
Nations now seem to feel compelled to report about ways to block the sun's harmful rays to mitigate global warming.
The Broad Road is the Highway to Doom.
It is MAN who moves MAN's doom-and-gloom Doom's Day Clock's hands close to striking the dark midnight hour.
Only an Ostrich with its head in the sand hides and remains silent, or perhaps wants to silent others about what is really going on.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

You " find " that.

I found that at 2nd Thess. 2:10-12 that the love of truth was Not received and for that cause God sends them a strong delusion that they should believe the lie........

I found at 2nd Tim. 3:3-4 choosing teachers who will 'tickle their ears' rather than hear the truth.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I don't know. I tend to get detailed and people don't like to reveal themselves in my opinion. But here's the thing: in order for a person to believe in the process of evolution, they must overcome that Jesus came from heaven to be born as a babe without a human causing Mary to become pregnant.

Which shouldn't be that difficult at all -- All they have to do is accept that God, being, well, you know... God, temporarily set aside the natural laws of the universe in order to accomplish His will.
I believe the theological term for that is a "miracle."

 

[YoursTrue]

Which shouldn't be that difficult at all -- All they have to do is accept that God, being, well, you know... God, temporarily set aside the natural laws of the universe in order to accomplish His will.
I believe the theological term for that is a "miracle."

May be so, but I haven't found them to say this, or don't remember, which can happen.

 

[YoursTrue]

Which shouldn't be that difficult at all -- All they have to do is accept that God, being, well, you know... God, temporarily set aside the natural laws of the universe in order to accomplish His will.
I believe the theological term for that is a "miracle."

I feel that way about "gravity." God can set aside the law of physics and nothing will be hurt by it.

 

[Audie]

I found that at 2nd Thess. 2:10-12 that the love of truth was Not received and for that cause God sends them a strong delusion that they should believe the lie........

I found at 2nd Tim. 3:3-4 choosing teachers who will 'tickle their ears' rather than hear the truth.

What a charming god.
Won't let Pharoah change his mind. Then
murders countless children to make him
change his mind.
Confuses people so they believe lies.

Seems sort of true as the bible does get
people to believing some of the stupidest
things ever.