Recognition of Same-Sex Relationships, 1989-2010

[angellous_evangellous]

What about Teen Challenge?

Ex-homosexuals - Conservapedia

Awful source. I want research, not some loony tunes conservapedia article.

 

[Dr. James Robertson]

No, it's not. "Sexual Orientation Disturbance" did not mean being homosexual. It meant being homosexual, being disturbed by it, and wishing to change it. Sexual Orientation Distubance was removed from the DSM in 1980, but "persistent and marked distress" about being gay is still considered a psychological disorder.

More compromise, but nothing has really changed. People who come to me have "persistent and marked distress", as do most people who have sinned, in whatever way. I wish you could see how happy they are once their sins have been forgiven, and they are able to rise above decadent lifestyles. Simple pleasures like hunting and fishing become pleasurable again. One ex-gay person actually told me that his experience was better than "smoking pot used to be", which, after a little thought, I decided, must be a good thing, in a society where more people are turning to drugs than to Jesus. Getting high on Jesus won't cause you any health problems, so why not give Jesus a chance?

 

[Dr. James Robertson]

Judas hung himself ..... go and do likewise.

Judas hanged himself. He was not a plastic surgeon.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

More compromise, but nothing has really changed. People who come to me have "persistent and marked distress", as do most people who have sinned, in whatever way. I wish you could see how happy they are once their sins have been forgiven, and they are able to rise above decadent lifestyles. Simple pleasures like hunting and fishing become pleasurable again. One ex-gay person actually told me that his experience was better than "smoking pot used to be", which, after a little thought, I decided, must be a good thing, in a society where more people are turning to drugs than to Jesus. Getting high on Jesus won't cause you any health problems, so why not give Jesus a chance?

.... a bottomless pit of lies...

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Judas hanged himself. He was not a plastic surgeon.

Plastic surgery is not in the Bible.

 

[Smoke]

More compromise, but nothing has really changed. People who come to me have "persistent and marked distress", as do most people who have sinned, in whatever way. I wish you could see how happy they are once their sins have been forgiven, and they are able to rise above decadent lifestyles. Simple pleasures like hunting and fishing become pleasurable again. One ex-gay person actually told me that his experience was better than "smoking pot used to be", which, after a little thought, I decided, must be a good thing, in a society where more people are turning to drugs than to Jesus. Getting high on Jesus won't cause you any health problems, so why not give Jesus a chance?

I gave Jesus a chance, but happily I'm now free of that poison.

The reason people are distressed about being gay is because of people like you. Your approach is not the solution; your approach is the problem.

 

[Magic Man]

I avoid logic & reasoning

I've noticed.

....so many people find them offensive, including those who praise them.

Interesting. I've never met someone who praises them, and knows what they are, and finds them offensive.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

More compromise, but nothing has really changed. People who come to me have "persistent and marked distress", as do most people who have sinned, in whatever way. I wish you could see how happy they are once their sins have been forgiven, and they are able to rise above decadent lifestyles. Simple pleasures like hunting and fishing become pleasurable again. One ex-gay person actually told me that his experience was better than "smoking pot used to be", which, after a little thought, I decided, must be a good thing, in a society where more people are turning to drugs than to Jesus. Getting high on Jesus won't cause you any health problems, so why not give Jesus a chance?

All good Christians hunt and fish.

Every time we repent from a real sin (like adultery and homosexualtiy), the first thing we do is dust off our old fishing pole and buy a new gun.

 

[Dr. James Robertson]

Seriously? You can't imagine how an effiminate gay male teen - who has never participated in homosexual behavior - could not be bullied, even to death, by people who think that he is gay?

I could see someone who acts like a sissy being bullied, yes, but who says that anyone has to act like a sissy? A boy can lift some weights and play some football. One thing that you haven't mentioned is that many boys are growing up without fathers to guide them, which is another issue that Christians try to correct.

Or if you mean, by "effiminate", that a boy suffers from gynecomastia, that can be corrected with surgery.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I gave Jesus a chance, but happily I'm now free of that poison.

The reason people are distressed about being gay is because of people like you. Your approach is not the solution; your approach is the problem.

Ah, come on man. Virgin ears here.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I could see someone who acts like a sissy being bullied, yes, but who says that anyone has to act like a sissy? A boy can lift some weights and play some football. One thing that you haven't mentioned is that many boys are growing up without fathers to guide them, which is another issue that Christians try to correct.

Or if you mean, by "effiminate", that a boy suffers from gynecomastia, that can be corrected with surgery.

Yeah, being bullied will toughen the kid up. And the pastor can rub some dirt in it if the kid complains.

I suspect that you've never heard of the arts.

 

[Dr. James Robertson]

For one thing, not all gay kids are sexually active. For another, even straight kids get bullied for being perceived as gay.

But even if the kids were engaging in "homosexual behavior," how would that justify the bullying?

You're contradicting yourself. If straight kids who act like sissies can be bullied, then how can you blame Christianity's view that homosexuality is a sin?

I don't know why I continue to be so astounded that people like you can justify this kind of **** in the name of Jesus.

Why are you assuming that anyone is justifying bullying? I haven't said anything of the kind.

 

[Revoltingest]

I could see someone who acts like a sissy being bullied, yes, but who says that anyone has to act like a sissy? A boy can lift some weights and play some football. One thing that you haven't mentioned is that many boys are growing up without fathers to guide them, which is another issue that Christians try to correct.

I recall many sissies in grade school. Their lot was often a miserable one, & they seemed absolutely unable to be or act like someone else.
So in a sense, yes...it appears to me that they have to act like that. Similarly, my being an engineer is incurable. One learns to cope, but
I'll never blend in with neurotypical society.
The simple solution is to prevent all bullying to all kids for whatever reason.

Why are you assuming that anyone is justifying bullying? I haven't said anything of the kind.

You gave me the vague impression that bullying gays was acceptable too. It would be good to directly dispel such misimpressions.

 

[Dr. James Robertson]

That's not going to happen.

He didn't get like this in a day, and he won't make any significant changes in a day.

You sure about that?

 

[Smoke]

You're contradicting yourself. If straight kids who act like sissies can be bullied, then how can you blame Christianity's view that homosexuality is a sin?

Read what I wrote. I said straight kids are bullied because they are "perceived as gay."

Why are you assuming that anyone is justifying bullying? I haven't said anything of the kind.

That's exactly what you're saying. You're blaming the victims. And it's contemptible.

 

[Dr. James Robertson]

Awful source. I want research, not some loony tunes conservapedia article.

vs. a loony tunes wikipedia article? Come on, you can research this as well as I can.

 

[Dr. James Robertson]

I gave Jesus a chance, but happily I'm now free of that poison.

The reason people are distressed about being gay is because of people like you. Your approach is not the solution; your approach is the problem.

What was it that turned you away from Jesus?

 

[Smoke]

What was it that turned you away from Jesus?

******** like you had a lot to do with it. I realized that people who didn't even have a clue about something as basic as sexuality couldn't possibly have a handle on the divine.

 

[Dr. James Robertson]

Yeah, being bullied will toughen the kid up. And the pastor can rub some dirt in it if the kid complains.

I suspect that you've never heard of the arts.

I'm not condoning bullying. Let's try to avoid using strawman arguments.

Arts are good. A boy should have a well-rounded education, including arts, science, sports, farming, hunting and fishing. We don't want to forget that the axe, the plow and the rifle civilized the United States.

 

[Dr. James Robertson]

******** like you had a lot to do with it. I realized that people who didn't even have a clue about something as basic as sexuality couldn't possibly have a handle on the divine.

So you had a problem with a preacher? Was sexual abuse involved?