Recognition of Same-Sex Relationships, 1989-2010

[Revoltingest]

.....We are all born into sin.....

Speak for yourself, bub....I was born with a clean slate. All of
my misadventures & misdeeds became my responsibility later.

....and we all suffer from temptation; however, Christians will always be opposed to any effort to make giving in to temptation to sin a socially acceptable behaviour.

It's fine to police the sins of your own flock, so long as my non-secular sins aren't suppressed by the gov't.
I see that you sport British (Canadian?) spelling....now that is an unforgivable sin!

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Praise God for that!

You do realize that a very small majority of people who call themselves Christians have never set foot in a church?

 

[Dr. James Robertson]

For real? Oh boy...

Btw, we haven't met. I'm Mystic. I'm happily bisexual. Enjoy your time here at RF.

Bisexuals have a high risk of AIDS. Be careful.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

It's fine to police the sins of your own flock, so long as my non-secular sins aren't suppressed by the gov't.

Not if there are any people in the flock.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Bisexuals have a high risk of AIDS. Be careful.

Only in your fantasy world.

 

[Revoltingest]

Bisexuals have a high risk of AIDS. Be careful.

AIDS microbes are deathly afraid of her. I know I am.

 

[Magic Man]

No, but most doctors are not qualified to prescribe medicine either. That is why so many people are hooked on prescription narcotics, or injured or dying from taking designer prescription drugs to cure problems, like obesity, that a little faith in God and counseling could take care of. It's a prime example of why we should trust in God, not in man.

I hope you guys realize how futile your attempts to have a reasonable discussion with the good doctor are after a post like this. I don't blame you for continuing to try, but I hope no one expects to get any actual sense through the massive defenses he apparently possesses.

 

[Dr. James Robertson]

My goodness me.

Read the second sentence carefully, if you can.

http://www.psychiatryonline.com/DSMPDF/DSM-II_Homosexuality_Revision.pdf

Keep in mind that this was a compromise between mental health professionals who had long-since established that homosexuality was a mental illness, and progressive liberals who wanted to force society to accept it.

 

[Revoltingest]

Not if there are any people in the flock.

I presume they're there voluntarily.....at least I hope so.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Keep in mind that this was a compromise between mental health professionals who had long-since established that homosexuality was a mental illness, and progressive liberals who wanted to force society to accept it.

Do you detect any compromise in the document?

 

[Revoltingest]

I hope you guys realize how futile your attempts to have a reasonable discussion with the good doctor are after a post like this. I don't blame you for continuing to try, but I hope no one expects to get any actual sense through the massive defenses he apparently possesses.

We shall see where it all leads. I'm not trying to change his religious beliefs.
I have friends at least as bonkers as he is, & find that discussion is productive.

 

[Dr. James Robertson]

You hold homosexuality up as a disorder that needs to be cured. This is harmful all by itself. It contributes to the toxic environment that is responsible in large part for the statistics you cited.

I hold it up as a disorder? People come to me for help because they, themselves, consider it to be a disorder, which fits the definition of Sexual Orientation Disturbance...a mental illness. How much success has the mental health industry had in treating homosexuality? I will bet that God has done considerably better.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I presume they're there voluntarily.....at least I hope so.

I was worried about the kids and teens.

Pouring poison into their ears for their entire youth (some of them) could cripple them for life, if they make it out of high school alive.

It really is a matter of life and death.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Keep in mind that this was a compromise between mental health professionals who had long-since established that homosexuality was a mental illness, and progressive liberals who wanted to force society to accept it.

Those "progressive liberals" you refer to were also mental health professionals.

I hold it up as a disorder? People come to me for help because they, themselves, consider it to be a disorder, which fits the definition of Sexual Orientation Disturbance...a mental illness.

Please go through the criteria you use to determine whether a person is suffering from "sexual orientation disturbance".

Edit: and why exactly do these people come to you? If you don't make your views about homosexuality known, why would they even think that you're the sort of person they should go to?

How much success has the mental health industry had in treating homosexuality? I will bet that God has done considerably better.

It's had about as much "success" as it's had in treating left-handedness. Homosexuality is not a disorder, and it doesn't need treatment.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I hold it up as a disorder? People come to me for help because they, themselves, consider it to be a disorder, which fits the definition of Sexual Orientation Disturbance...a mental illness. How much success has the mental health industry had in treating homosexuality? I will bet that God has done considerably better.

No it does not! DSMII explicitly says that "Sexual Orientation Disturbance" is NOT the same thing as normal homosexuality. Your profound incompetence is a danger to yourself as well as the people who come to you for "help."

And I suspect that people like you are the reason why these poor homosexuals think that they have a disorder.

 

[Revoltingest]

I was worried about the kids and teens.
Pouring poison into their ears for their entire youth (some of them) could cripple them for life, if they make it out of high school alive.
It really is a matter of life and death.

I share your concern.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I will bet that God has done considerably better.

There is no Christian ministry to homosexuals that has enjoyed any measurable success in "healing" homosexuality.

 

[Smoke]

That is not true at all. Homosexuality was not removed, but replaced with "Sexual Orientation Disturbance", which is just another way of saying the same thing.

No, it's not. "Sexual Orientation Disturbance" did not mean being homosexual. It meant being homosexual, being disturbed by it, and wishing to change it. Sexual Orientation Distubance was removed from the DSM in 1980, but "persistent and marked distress" about being gay is still considered a psychological disorder.

Being gay is not a psychological problem. Believing the kind of ******** you spread is.

Your ignorance on the subject is another reason you should not be counseling people. It's not just that you're not helping; you're doing actual harm to people. It's irresponsible, callous, and stupid, and I sincerely hope one of your victims wises up and sues you for malpractice.

 

[Smoke]

Why do we need anti-bullying legislation for homosexuals? All they have to do is not engage in that behaviour and they will be fine.

Is that what you'd say if they were bullying Christians, too? "All they have to do is not engage in that behavior and they'll be fine"?

Is that the attitude Jesus teaches you to have?

You shame your religion with this kind of filth.

 

[Dr. James Robertson]

The harassment lies in making them believe that homosexuality is a sin and that it somehow breaks one's relationship with God or that they will become objects of God's wrath.

The Bible says exactly that, and telling people what is in the Bible is not harassment, nor is it an unacceptable thing for a preacher to do. I have a problem with preachers who teach things that are not in the Bible.