Shiranui, you are comparing a kilogram to a kilometer, for gossakes!
How so?
yes irrelevant, because we are not talking who jesus is, we are talking people thought of him as the baptist, and he didn't spring up in protest.
He did brush aside the idea, though.
Because we have their writings.
wrong dear, jesus said, (john is Elijah) .. they believed it.
But in what sense?
[/b][/i]does that include jesus being an old prophet?
I don't think I follow.
changing words don't make a difference, because the concept is that of reincarnation, so why use a word to describe the obvious? they would have had to call Eleazer's sleep as death, but they didn't!
So going by this logic, would it make any sense to say "Jimmy swam" when we REALLY meant "Jimmy ran," because it's obvious that Jimmy was running?
Alright, Revelations 20:5-6 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first
resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first
resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
Revelations 11:7-12:
The Witnesses Killed
7 When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them. 8 And their dead bodies
will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our[
g] Lord was crucified. 9 Then
those from the peoples, tribes, tongues, and nations will see their dead bodies three-and-a-half days, and not allow[
h] their dead bodies to be put into graves. 10 And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth.
The Witnesses Resurrected
11 Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. 12 And they[
i] heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, Come up here. And they ascended to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them.
^Now, see how resurrection here means the witnesses standing back up on their feet, in their old, formerly dead bodies?
We also have further proof that Revelations did not teach Reincarnation:
Revelations 20:11-15
11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God,[
c] and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is
the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.[
d] 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
Note how being cast into the lake of fire is only called the SECOND death?
if they didn't they would have killed the guy who said this person is the one I personally beheaded, they would have impeached him ... called him a lunatic!
Generally, killing a client king of the Roman Empire doesn't go over very well with the Emperor or his armies.
Plus, with Herod's patronage of the Temple, including massive expansions to the Temple complex, I don't think that the Pharisees were really anxious to call Herod out on anything. Also throw in the already existing sectarian divisions in Judaism that already had widely-varying beliefs, and Herod's statement was just another drop in the bucket.
