Reincarnation - Scripture or imagination?

[Me Myself]

Hi Me Myself, sure it does, it totally denies the resurrection.

It doesn´t.

You can reincarnate like crazy and then resurrect.

 

[Ken Brown]

It doesn´t.

You can reincarnate like crazy and then resurrect.

Hi Me Myself, and just where did you get that doctrine from? You may have one thing right in your statement...crazy! KB

 

[Xchristian]

Hi Me Myself, sure it does, it totally denies the resurrection. Why didn't Paul have a hope in reincarnation?

Why not say that reincarnation IS resurrection?
Let me give you an example, and please read my comment after the next quotation:


[Cor1 15:44][ It is sown a physical body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual body.]

Here, two bodies, one soul, .... go ahead and deny it Mr Brown

Act 23:6
(6) But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.

Why wasn't Paul called into question for the hope in reincarnation? Reincarnation is a doctrine of demons, as the demons do not want anyone to have a hope in the resurrection. KB

Big mistake, I hope you really have read what I said before ..
First this is Acts, not a genuine Pauline epistle, you can't take what Luke wanted us to think Paul is, and say Paul is so and so. That's what Luke said that Paul said, not what Paul said, totally different waves.
Otherwise you will have to kick Acts 9 against Galatians and come out with two different Pauls.

Second: as for the underlined, I wish you either edit it, or apologise to those who do believe in it, jesus for instance.

thanks

 

[Ken Brown]

Why not say that reincarnation IS resurrection?
Let me give you an example, and please read my comment after the next quotation:

[Cor1 15:44][ It is sown a physical body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual body.]

Here, two bodies, one soul, .... go ahead and deny it Mr Brown

Big mistake, I hope you really have read what I said before ..
First this is Acts, not a genuine Pauline epistle, you can't take what Luke wanted us to think Paul is, and say Paul is so and so. That's what Luke said that Paul said, not what Paul said, totally different waves.
Otherwise you will have to kick Acts 9 against Galatians and come out with two different Pauls.

Second: as for the underlined, I wish you either edit it, or apologise to those who do believe in it, jesus for instance.

thanks

Hi Xchristian, I'm beginning to like you. You have a nice way about yourself and how you deal with people. That being said, we will disagree.

You seem to like to cherry pick out verses and then use them to establish your beliefs/non beliefs, and then deny others to do the same, based upon your belief that nothing can be believe out of the Scriptures. You see, I think I understand you pretty well, and even in that understanding, I will play your game.

Concerning Acts 15, what logic are you using..."two bodies, one soul?" You needed to look up several verses to verse 42..the FIRST body is sown in corruption, the SECOND body is raised in incorruption. The FIRST body is of the EARTH, the SECOND Body is the Lord from heaven. Now, look what Paul says in verse 45...the natural or earthly body was FIRST, and not the Spiritual Body. According to a designed plan, the body that can die came first, and THEN the incorruptible Body raises. Where do you get reincarnation out of that?

About two different Pauls...go ahead.

Doctrines of demons? I would have to be apologizing all the time if I denied there were doctrines of demons. Reincarnation is just a little insignificant doctrine of demons, the grand father of the demon's doctrines is the doctrine of having innocent blood shed in your place so that G-d would have His JUSTICE satisfied. So if I would have to apologize for reincarnation, I would most assuredly have to apologize for the whole "Forgiveness?" thread...and that is not going to happen. KB

 

[Wayfaring Stranger]

As a Christian the Bible fors my beliefs on reincarnation.

I believe the Bible supports the concept. Mat 17:12 but I say into you, that Elijah is come already, and they knew him not, but did unto him whatsoever they would. Even so shall the Son of man also suffer of them.
13 Then understood the disciples that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

John was the first high priest in centuries that was from the right house and anointed by the Holy Spirit, that is how that was fulfilled.


Heb:9:27:
And as it is appointed unto men once to die,
but after this the judgment:

 

[Xchristian]

Hi Xchristian, I'm beginning to like you. You have a nice way about yourself and how you deal with people. That being said, we will disagree.

You seem to like to cherry pick out verses and then use them to establish your beliefs/non beliefs, and then deny others to do the same, based upon your belief that nothing can be believe out of the Scriptures. You see, I think I understand you pretty well, and even in that understanding, I will play your game.

Concerning Acts 15, what logic are you using..."two bodies, one soul?" You needed to look up several verses to verse 42..the FIRST body is sown in corruption, the SECOND body is raised in incorruption. The FIRST body is of the EARTH, the SECOND Body is the Lord from heaven. Now, look what Paul says in verse 45...the natural or earthly body was FIRST, and not the Spiritual Body. According to a designed plan, the body that can die came first, and THEN the incorruptible Body raises. Where do you get reincarnation out of that?

About two different Pauls...go ahead.

So we are agreed that there can be two bodies, one person. [be that of earth and ...<who knows what>] now the earth itself, may have serveral bodies to one person.

Example: This is John the Baptist whom I have beheaded <talking about jesus>
Another: The Baptist IS Elijah <again two bodies one person>
A third: People say you are 'either' the baptist, Elijah, or one of the prophets

A new one for you: This blind man is blind because of his sin or that of his parents?

it's overwhelming!

The two pauls theory is nothing new ..
Luke is telling us about a Paul who has been under the wings of the 12
Paul is telling us about another who had received noting from anyone.

It's been first suggested by the Dutch radical school and is now supported by a variety of scholars including the famous Dr Robert M Price, and others ...
Dr Detering of Germany says that there's nothing such as Paul at all!! he also thinks it's all Marcion invention which was later edited by Polycarbus ...
I will settle for a Paul of the genuine epistles, and a Paul corrected later in Acts.
End of the day, we simply can't find a Paul in Acts .. full stop.

The bit about blood shed and all that, I am sorry I would rather worship Dracula! .. he puts blood to a better use.

 

[Ken Brown]

So we are agreed that there can be two bodies, one person. [be that of earth and ...<who knows what>] now the earth itself, may have serveral bodies to one person.

Example: This is John the Baptist whom I have beheaded <talking about jesus>
Another: The Baptist IS Elijah <again two bodies one person>
A third: People say you are 'either' the baptist, Elijah, or one of the prophets

A new one for you: This blind man is blind because of his sin or that of his parents?

it's overwhelming!

The two pauls theory is nothing new ..
Luke is telling us about a Paul who has been under the wings of the 12
Paul is telling us about another who had received noting from anyone.

It's been first suggested by the Dutch radical school and is now supported by a variety of scholars including the famous Dr Robert M Price, and others ...
Dr Detering of Germany says that there's nothing such as Paul at all!! he also thinks it's all Marcion invention which was later edited by Polycarbus ...
I will settle for a Paul of the genuine epistles, and a Paul corrected later in Acts.
End of the day, we simply can't find a Paul in Acts .. full stop.

The bit about blood shed and all that, I am sorry I would rather worship Dracula! .. he puts blood to a better use.

Hi Xchristian, we didn't get very far did we? First off, John the Baptist was NOT the reincarnated Elijah, and that was proven demonstrably by the fact that he came "IN the power and spirit" of Elijah, not as the reincarnated Elijah. If it is the case, then Elisha was the reincarnated Elijah, because Elisha was given a double portion of Elijah's spirit. That all occurred when they both were existing in the same time frame. So are you saying that a soul can be two people at once? And then for the transfiguration to occur after the death of John the Baptist, and Yeshua saying that there is none greater than John that was born of woman, why was it Elijah and not John the Baptist at the Transfiguration? You need to totally drop your reasoning and logic that John the Baptist was the reincarnated Elijah, and use some other argument, especially since you really don't believe what is written in the Scriptures.

And let's talk about the man born blind from birth. Scriptures say that "all have sinned," and "none have done right." So if sins from a previous incarnation can cause birth defects (blindness), why isn't everyone born blind? Please re-think you arguments about reincarnation. (And I have much more to say about this man born blind from birth if you would care to hear.)

Two Pauls? If you understood Paul, you wouldn't think there were two of them. Paul was not at the initial "opening" of the minds of the disciples when Yeshua expounded to them in the Scriptures concerning Himself. When Paul met with Peter, James, and John, they could add nothing to what Paul knew, therefore, as Peter said, Paul was given wisdom that lawless men would twist and distort. Don't cut Paul short, he has his place as one who excelled in knowledge and understanding. KB

 

[Ken Brown]

Hi Xchristian, and we are no where in agreement that one soul can have two bodies. Please do not try to interpret what I say and make it something you would say. KB

 

[Shermana]

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3185043-post70.html

I see no one has responded to this.

Ezekiel 44 kinda puts it to a rest.

Reincarnation is indeed implied in the OT.

 

[Shermana]

Hi Xchristian, we didn't get very far did we? First off, John the Baptist was NOT the reincarnated Elijah, and that was proven demonstrably by the fact that he came "IN the power and spirit" of Elijah, not as the reincarnated Elijah.

Spirit of Elijah = The same spirit.

Power of Elijah = The same physical ability.

Strong's Greek: 1411.

So in no way whatsoever does it NOT mean "The same spirit reincarnated".

If it is the case, then Elisha was the reincarnated Elijah, because Elisha was given a double portion of Elijah's spirit.

What do you think "double portion" means exactly in this particular context?

That all occurred when they both were existing in the same time frame. So are you saying that a soul can be two people at once?

The word "Spirit" does not always mean the same thing in the same context. Perhaps you're aware that what exactly this means is up to dispute. I think this commentary puts it fairly well:

After crossing the Jordan, Elijah allowed his servant and companion to make one more request before he was taken away, in the full confidence that the Lord would fulfil it in answer to his prayer; and Elisha asked, "Let &#1489;&#1468;&#1512;&#1493;&#1468;&#1495;&#1498; &#1508;&#1468;&#1497;&#1470;&#1513;&#1473;&#1504;&#1497;&#1501;, &#948;&#953;&#960;&#955;&#945;&#834; &#949;&#787;&#957; &#960;&#957;&#949;&#965;&#769;&#956;&#945;&#964;&#953;&#769; &#963;&#959;&#965;, i.e., a double portion in (of) thy spirit be granted to me." This request has been misunderstood by many translators, from Ephraem Syrus down to Kster and F. W. Krummacher, who have supposed that Elisha wished to have a double measure of Elijah's spirit ("that thy spirit may be twofold in me:" Luther after the Vulgate, "ut fiat in me duplex spiritus tuus"); and some have taken it as referring to the fact that Elisha performed many more miracles and much greater ones than Elijah (Cler., Pfeiffer, dub. vex. p. 442), others to the gift of prophecy and miracles (Kster, die Proph. p. 82), whilst others, like Krummacher, have understood by it that the spirit of Elisha, as an evangelical spirit, was twice as great as the legal spirit of Elijah. But there is no such meaning implied in the words, nor can it be inferred from the answer of Elijah; whilst it is impossible to show that there was any such measure of the Spirit in the life and works of Elisha in comparison with the spirit of Elisha, although his request was fulfilled. The request of Elisha is evidently based upon Deuteronomy 21:17, where &#1489;&#1468; &#1508;&#1468;&#1497;&#1470;&#1513;&#1473;&#1504;&#1497;&#1501; denotes the double portion which the first-born received in (of) the father's inheritance, as R. Levi b. Gers., Seb. Mnst., Vatabl., Grot., and others have perceived, and as Hengstenberg (Beitrr. ii. p. 133f.) in our days has once more proved. Elisha, resting his foot upon this law, requested of Elijah as a first-born son the double portion of his spirit for his inheritance. Elisha looked upon himself as the first-born son of Elijah in relation to the other "sons of the prophets," inasmuch as Elijah by the command of God had called him to be his successor and to carry on his work. The answer of Elijah agrees with this: "Thou hast asked a hard thing," he said, because the granting of this request was not in his power, but in the power of God. He therefore made its fulfilment dependent upon a condition, which did not rest with himself, but was under the control of God: "if thou shalt see me taken from thee (&#1500;&#1511;&#1468;&#1495;, partic. Pual with the &#1502; dropped, see Ges. 52, Anm. b; Ewald, 169, d.), let it be so to thee; but if not, it will not be so." From his own personal inclination Elijah did not wish to have Elisha, who was so closely related to him, as an eye-witness of his translation from the earth; but from his persistent refusal to leave him he could already see that he would not be able to send him away. He therefore left the matter to the Lord, and made the guidance of God the sign for Elisha whether the Lord would fulfil his request or not. Moreover, the request itself even on the part of the petitioner presupposes a certain dependence, and for this reason Elisha could not possibly desire that the double measure of Elijah's spirit should be bestowed upon him. A dying man cannot leave to his heir more than he has himself. And, lastly, even the ministry of Elisha, when compared with that of Elijah, has all the appearance of being subordinate to it. He lives and labours merely as the continuer of the work already begun by Elijah, both outwardly in relation to the worshippers of idols, and inwardly in relation to the disciples of the prophets. Elisha performs the anointing of Jehu and Hazael, with which Elijah was charged, and thereby prepares the way for the realization of that destruction of Ahab's house which Elijah predicted to the king; and he merely receives and fosters those schools of the prophets which Elijah had already founded. And again, it is not Elisha but Elijah who appears as the Coryphaeus of prophecy along with Moses, the representative of the law, upon the mount of transfiguration (Matthew 17:3). - It is only a thoroughly external mode of observation that can discover in the fact that Elisha performed a greater number of miracles than Elijah, a proof that the spirit of Elijah rested doubly upon him.

Keil and Delitzsch Biblical Commentary on the Old Testament

And then for the transfiguration to occur after the death of John the Baptist, and Yeshua saying that there is none greater than John that was born of woman, why was it Elijah and not John the Baptist at the Transfiguration?

I don't understand your contention. If Elijah was born as John, it would be John.

You need to totally drop your reasoning and logic that John the Baptist was the reincarnated Elijah, and use some other argument, especially since you really don't believe what is written in the Scriptures.

No, you need to drop reasoning and logic to assume that he wasn't referring to John being Elijah. Accusing someone of not believing what's written in Scriptures is not a substitute for logic and reason.

And let's talk about the man born blind from birth. Scriptures say that "all have sinned," and "none have done right." So if sins from a previous incarnation can cause birth defects (blindness), why isn't everyone born blind? Please re-think you arguments about reincarnation. (And I have much more to say about this man born blind from birth if you would care to hear.)

Because different sins would result in different birth conditions. Simple.

Two Pauls? If you understood Paul, you wouldn't think there were two of them. Paul was not at the initial "opening" of the minds of the disciples when Yeshua expounded to them in the Scriptures concerning Himself. When Paul met with Peter, James, and John, they could add nothing to what Paul knew, therefore, as Peter said, Paul was given wisdom that lawless men would twist and distort. Don't cut Paul short, he has his place as one who excelled in knowledge and understanding.

2 Peter was disputed as early as the earliest church, most scholars don't believe it's authentic, neither did much of the early church, so I wouldn't use it as if it were a matter of fact he said that.

 

[Wayfaring Stranger]

Now in Ezekiel 44, how far ahead in the Future were they talking about building this particular Temple where sacred water flows out that causes trees to bear fresh fruit every month, and which Levites who went after idols is it talking about that will be appointed to be in charge of the Temple? Apparently, these were the priests of the generation before the Temple was destroyed, so was he talking about 100 year old priests or something? Oh wait, the Temple probably would take much longer than to build. So where do they fit in exactly?

The temple of Zec:6 and river of Eze:47 are both in place by the same evening of the day the 2 witnesses are resurrected. The remnant of the Nations and the whole House of Israel will do the yearly feast 1,000 times in 1,000 years.

Zec:6:12:
And speak unto him,
saying,
Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts,
saying,
Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH;
and he shall grow up out of his place,
and he shall build the temple of the LORD:
Zec:6:13:
Even he shall build the temple of the LORD;
and he shall bear the glory,
and shall sit and rule upon his throne;
and he shall be a priest upon his throne:
and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

Zec:14:7:
But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD,
not day, nor night:
but it shall come to pass,
that at evening time it shall be light.
Zec:14:8:
And it shall be in that day,
that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem;
half of them toward the former sea,
and half of them toward the hinder sea:
in summer and in winter shall it be.
Zec:14:9:
And the LORD shall be king over all the earth:
in that day shall there be one LORD,
and his name one.

Zec:14:16:
And it shall come to pass,
that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King,
the LORD of hosts,
and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

The river is the one in Eze:47 and taking up the literal dimensions and effects for the Dead Sea. The 12 Tribes are detailed in their gathering in the whole of Jer:31.

Jer:31:9:
They shall come with weeping,
and with supplications will I lead them:
I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way,
wherein they shall not stumble:
for I am a father to Israel,
and Ephraim is my firstborn.

 

[Shermana]

Zechariah 14 takes place far in the future when gentiles must go up to obey Succoth in Jerusalem or be struck with droughts and plagues.

We have absolutely no historical record of this happening.

Nice try though.

With that said, you're completely ignoring that it's referring to the Priests BEFORE the destruction of the First Temple. There'd be over a 100 year gap by the time the second temple was constructed.

 

[Xchristian]

Hi Xchristian, we didn't get very far did we? First off, John the Baptist was NOT the reincarnated Elijah, and that was proven demonstrably by the fact that he came "IN the power and spirit" of Elijah, not as the reincarnated Elijah.

fascinating!
He's not American, he's from the United States of America ...

red = red
blue = blue

If it is the case, then Elisha was the reincarnated Elijah, because Elisha was given a double portion of Elijah's spirit.

spirits moving bodies, very interesting.

That all occurred when they both were existing in the same time frame. So are you saying that a soul can be two people at once?

no the bible says so, but you choose not believe it.

And then for the transfiguration to occur after the death of John the Baptist,

are you aware that the transfiguration is originally a post resurrection event?

and Yeshua saying that there is none greater than John that was born of woman, why was it Elijah and not John the Baptist at the Transfiguration? You need to totally drop your reasoning and logic that John the Baptist was the reincarnated Elijah, and use some other argument, especially since you really don't believe what is written in the Scriptures.

you are accusing jesus of being a liar in the larger font, he said Elijah is John
You can't say one is not the other, review yourself.

And let's talk about the man born blind from birth. Scriptures say that "all have sinned," and "none have done right." So if sins from a previous incarnation can cause birth defects (blindness), why isn't everyone born blind?

Ask the authors of the fourth gospel, they thought so, it was common in those days.

Please re-think you arguments about reincarnation. (And I have much more to say about this man born blind from birth if you would care to hear.)

we can't escape the truth Mr Brown.

Two Pauls? If you understood Paul, you wouldn't think there were two of them. Paul was not at the initial "opening" of the minds of the disciples when Yeshua expounded to them in the Scriptures concerning Himself. When Paul met with Peter, James, and John, they could add nothing to what Paul knew, therefore, as Peter said, Paul was given wisdom that lawless men would twist and distort. Don't cut Paul short, he has his place as one who excelled in knowledge and understanding. KB

the bit in red is anti Acts .. the bit in blue is pseudopigrapha (spelling)

 

[Ken Brown]

fascinating!
He's not American, he's from the United States of America ...

red = red
blue = blue

spirits moving bodies, very interesting.

no the bible says so, but you choose not believe it.

are you aware that the transfiguration is originally a post resurrection event?

you are accusing jesus of being a liar in the larger font, he said Elijah is John
You can't say one is not the other, review yourself.

Ask the authors of the fourth gospel, they thought so, it was common in those days.

we can't escape the truth Mr Brown.

the bit in red is anti Acts .. the bit in blue is pseudopigrapha (spelling)

Hi Xchristian, boy, that is a big word and a very fancy way of calling me a liar . I'm a big boy and can take it, so no offense it taken.

Our disagreement all boils down to Yeshua's statement that John the Baptist is Elijah. Now, when John was asked directly if he was Elijah, John said that he wasn't. If John the Baptist was the reincarnated Elijah, why would he lie about that? Now, if John the Baptist had the SPIRIT and POWER of Elijah, then he wouldn't be lying when he denied that he was Elijah:

Joh 1:21
(21) And they asked him (John), "Then who are you? Are you Elijah?" And he said, "I am not!" "Are you the Prophet?" And he answered, "No!"

Now please consider this Xchristian. G-d gives His Spirit to those who OBEY Him:

Act 5:32
(32) And we are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit whom G-d has given to those who obey him."

And Yeshua says that POWER will come UPON those who receive the Holy Spirit:

Act 1:8
(8) But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the farthest part of the earth."

My point here Xchristian is that John the Baptist received the SPIRIT and POWER of Elijah, and denied actually being Elijah, and in the same way, a Believer who obeys G-d receives His Spirit and Power. Are we to use your logic and now say that all who obey G-d and receive His Spirit and Power is a "reincarnation" of G-d? You know what, you just may be right, who knows? KB

 

[Me Myself]

Hi Xchristian, boy, that is a big word and a very fancy way of calling me a liar . I'm a big boy and can take it, so no offense it taken.

Our disagreement all boils down to Yeshua's statement that John the Baptist is Elijah. Now, when John was asked directly if he was Elijah, John said that he wasn't. If John the Baptist was the reincarnated Elijah, why would he lie about that?

Why would he remember he was Elijah? Part of reincarnation is that you forget.

Jesus didn´t say spirit and power of Elijah, he referred of him as BEING Elijah. Again, the apostles understood, why can´t you?

 

[Ken Brown]

Why would he remember he was Elijah? Part of reincarnation is that you forget.

Jesus didn´t say spirit and power of Elijah, he referred of him as BEING Elijah. Again, the apostles understood, why can´t you?

Hi Me Myself, well then, what you are saying is that those who are reincarnated as "God" will not be able to remember that they were "God?" KB

 

[Xchristian]

Hi Xchristian, boy, that is a big word and a very fancy way of calling me a liar . I'm a big boy and can take it, so no offense it taken.

Mr Brown, I have never called you a liar or anything else, but I am quite sure you would accept being called a liar if it means jesus is not wrong, wouldn't you?
Otherwise I have always treated you with utmost respect, calling you by the surname and never saying an indecent word ... apologies if I offended you.

Our disagreement all boils down to Yeshua's statement that John the Baptist is Elijah. Now, when John was asked directly if he was Elijah, John said that he wasn't.

We are facing one of two things here:

1- jesus made a mistake
2- john made a mistake
3- the gospel writer had a hidden agenda to show belittle john the baptist.

Now the fact that there's still a sect that follows the baptist, (in Iraq I think) and the fact that they remained far after he was killed, rivalry has been between the two sects, jesus followers and john's group, and it's documented in the earliest of the gospels:

[Mk 2:18][ Now John's disciples and the Pharisees were fasting; and people came and said to him, "Why do John's disciples and the disciples of the Pharisees fast, but your disciples do not fast?"]

You can really tell, in the fourth gospel, the poem in the prologue obviously has a problem in verses 6 and 15 I think with john.

If John the Baptist was the reincarnated Elijah, why would he lie about that? Now, if John the Baptist had the SPIRIT and POWER of Elijah, then he wouldn't be lying when he denied that he was Elijah:

too much twisting, why not just say it simple and straightforward?

if john the baptist (of the gospels) didn't believe in reincarnation, he would have laughed out loud when they asked him if he was Elijah!!

thanks for that proof, I think I missed it. <cheers>

Now please consider this Xchristian. G-d gives His Spirit to those who OBEY Him:

Act 5:32
(32) And we are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit whom G-d has given to those who obey him."

And Yeshua says that POWER will come UPON those who receive the Holy Spirit:

Act 1:8
(8) But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the farthest part of the earth."

That's Luke's work, and the words, power, spirit, .. are all philosophical expressions, I don't think you can claim you can call that materials!

Nobody actually can define those entities objectively, but each to himself, I would say it's the same thing as the ruach, the spirit, the wind, the breath, the soul

The holy spirit itself is an unknown entity, just a few twisted words here and there to make up a new god.

My point here Xchristian is that John the Baptist received the SPIRIT and POWER of Elijah, and denied actually being Elijah, and in the same way, a Believer who obeys G-d receives His Spirit and Power. Are we to use your logic and now say that all who obey G-d and receive His Spirit and Power is a "reincarnation" of G-d? You know what, you just may be right, who knows? KB

all answered above.

 

[Shermana]

Once again, if Elijah was John the Baptist but reincarnated, that means he's no longer Elijah. BEing the Spirit of Elijah does not mean being the Flesh of Elijah. The man is not the same, only the Spirit is. Hence, if they asked him if he's Elijah, the correct answer is no.

If Abraham Lincoln was reincarnated as a Chinese girl, and a Psychic asked "Are you Abraham Lincoln", the answer would be "no", she is not. She is merely his soul. Abraham Lincoln was a totally different person.

 

[Ken Brown]

Hi Xchristian, you know I don't think I am going to change your thinking, and I doubt that you will change mine so we may have to leave it there. It's been a pleasure talking with you as you are a gentleman and I truly wish you the best. Maybe we will discuss something else down the road that will get us a little closer together. Take care, KB.

 

[Xchristian]

Hi Xchristian, you know I don't think I am going to change your thinking, and I doubt that you will change mine so we may have to leave it there. It's been a pleasure talking with you as you are a gentleman and I truly wish you the best. Maybe we will discuss something else down the road that will get us a little closer together. Take care, KB.

thank you.