Religions/cults that suppress free speech

[blü 2]

Would be nice to know was there really seventy of them. But, I think that is a good question. I think the judges didn’t act in a right way. And that itself undermines for me the faith in the whole system.

What, stayed with the law and didn't give the narcissist the corrupt verdict he craved? You jest, surely?

How do you know that? And please show one example of his lie?

>Here< is a tiny sample. There are lists that run into the tens of thousands on the net ─ just google "Trump's lies".

 

[1213]

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>Here< is a tiny sample. There are lists that run into the tens of thousands on the net ─ just google "Trump's lies".

Firstly, I don’t think CNN can be trusted in anything. But, if we look for example the first claim, it is about Trump telling: “You know, I looked at the rain, which just never came. You know, we finished the speech, went inside, it poured.”

I didn’t see any proof that for that to be a lie, unless one thinks Trump claimed that there was no rain in Washington at that day. What Trump said, can be true, if there was no rain in the place he was at that moment. No proof was offered for rain at that moment, in that place where Trump was having the speech. If there was rain, can you show a video where Trump is having the speech in rain? If not, I don’t think that was a lie and it really further ruins the credibility of the Communist News Network.

 

[metis]

Firstly, I don’t think CNN can be trusted in anything.

According to the non-partisan group PolitiFact, CNN is the 2nd most reliable source of accurate news, PBS NewsHour is the most reliable, and Fox is the least with MSNBC behind it.

However, just a reminder that "accuracy", which is what was being measured, is not the same as "unbiased", which was not being measured.

 

[metis]

If not, I don’t think that was a lie and it really further ruins the credibility of the Communist News Network.

You've got to be kidding me.

However, I admit using hyperbole myself when labeling the "Fox Propaganda Channel"-- which it is, btw.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Firstly, I don’t think CNN can be trusted in anything. But, if we look for example the first claim, it is about Trump telling: “You know, I looked at the rain, which just never came. You know, we finished the speech, went inside, it poured.”

I didn’t see any proof that for that to be a lie, unless one thinks Trump claimed that there was no rain in Washington at that day. What Trump said, can be true, if there was no rain in the place he was at that moment. No proof was offered for rain at that moment, in that place where Trump was having the speech. If there was rain, can you show a video where Trump is having the speech in rain? If not, I don’t think that was a lie and it really further ruins the credibility of the Communist News Network.

I was constantly running to fact checker sites every time Trump spoke, and usually he was lying. I'll never forget that. I don't care for Biden, but at least Biden is a normal mediocre politician, and not a compulsive liar.

 

[blü 2]

Firstly, I don’t think CNN can be trusted in anything. But, if we look for example the first claim, it is about Trump telling: “You know, I looked at the rain, which just never came. You know, we finished the speech, went inside, it poured.”
I didn’t see any proof that for that to be a lie, unless one thinks Trump claimed that there was no rain in Washington at that day. What Trump said, can be true, if there was no rain in the place he was at that moment.

Did you google eg Trump Inauguration weather and see what you could find?

You'll get nowhere just sitting there and believing what Fox and QAnon tell you. And if you doubt CNN, check out other news reports, mainstream ones ─ not those that spoonfeed nonsense to the Right.

 

[Fallen Prophet]

Do you know a religion or cult that suppresses free speech?

The liberal Left in the U.S.

 

[1213]

Did you google eg Trump Inauguration weather and see what you could find?
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Sorry, I didn't find any video that shows Trump having speech in the rain. If you know one, please link it here. Otherwise I think it is a lie.

 

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I was constantly running to fact checker sites every time Trump spoke, and usually he was lying. I'll never forget that. I don't care for Biden, but at least Biden is a normal mediocre politician, and not a compulsive liar.

By what I see, those “fact-checkers” seem to be more dishonest than Trump. But even if he would had lied more than Biden, I think Trump is less dictatorial fascist than Biden, which is why I think he would have been a better choice. All though, it is possible that Biden is just a puppet that doesn’t really know or understand what is happening.

 

[blü 2]

Sorry, I didn't find any video that shows Trump having speech in the rain. If you know one, please link it here. Otherwise I think it is a lie.

It's not my point to demonstrate every recorded lie that Trump has told. There are numerous sites on the net with literally thousands of examples.

A quality of his lies is that they're relentlessly self-serving. If he weren't so dangerous, he'd be pathetic, but either way he's a psychiatric case study for the ages.

 

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It's not my point to demonstrate every recorded lie that Trump has told. ...

I agree, one example would be enough to prove him a liar. Also, I don’t have time to prove all the accusations wrong. But, when there is lists of lies, it would be nice, if even the first one on the list could really be confirmed to be really a lie. Now it looks more like CNN is making baseless accusations.

 

[metis]

By what I see, those “fact-checkers” seem to be more dishonest than Trump.

Gee, just how convenient that is to dismiss what's been researched and well noted. Apparently it's convenient for you to dismiss the fact that numerous members of his own party have referred to Trump as being a "pathological liar"-- their words, not mine. And take a look at Trump's long record as being a con-man: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lawsuits_involving_Donald_Trump

But even if he would had lied more than Biden, I think Trump is less dictatorial fascist than Biden, which is why I think he would have been a better choice.

You've got to be kidding.

I have never heard Biden praise "strong leaders" like Putin and even Saddam Hussein. I have heard Biden say he trusted Putin more than our own intelligence agencies. I never heard Biden get excited about the attempted overthrow of our government back on January 6th. I never heard Biden call any American election a "fraud"? Trump's own sister, who he says he's the closest to, says he is self-centered and cannot be trusted, and his own niece fully agrees.

All though, it is possible that Biden is just a puppet that doesn’t really know or understand what is happening.

A "puppet" of whom?

 

[blü 2]

I agree, one example would be enough to prove him a liar. Also, I don’t have time to prove all the accusations wrong. But, when there is lists of lies, it would be nice, if even the first one on the list could really be confirmed to be really a lie. Now it looks more like CNN is making baseless accusations.

With so many Trump lies to choose from ─ thousands, not hundreds ─ why would anyone bother to make up more?

His Big Lie at the moment is that somehow Joe Biden beat him because of a corrupt plot on an absolutely massive scale, a lie which has failed in something like 70 court actions on his behalf and however many recounts he's forced ─ every single on of them.

Separately from that, he ran a shambolic White House staff, corruptly tried to influence the DoJ and apparently at times succeeded, used the government for his private purposes, tried to hide the truth about his debt-ridden empire, and didn't give Stormy Daniels $130,000 because she was lying. And his encouragement of racism and division in US society has left festering problems.

If there's ever a worse president, not just the US but the world is in real trouble.

 

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With so many Trump lies to choose from ─ thousands, not hundreds ─ why would anyone bother to make up more?

Good question, it would be nice to see even one thing that Trump has said that can be proven to be a lie.

His Big Lie at the moment is that somehow Joe Biden beat him because of a corrupt plot on an absolutely massive scale, a lie which has failed in something like 70 court actions on his behalf and however many recounts he's forced ─ every single on of them.

Can we blame him, when Biden himself said:

"We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,"

I think it is possible that Biden told accidentally the truth and there was a massive voter fraud. That is why it can't be really said Trump is lying about it, unless it could be somehow proven there was no such thing. I don't think anyone can prove that the elections were fair.

Also, even if Trump would be wrong in this, it would not necessary mean he has lied. Lying means person intentionally tells something that he knows is not true. If he speaks what he thinks is true, but has wrong information, he is not exactly lying, only telling wrong information. This is why, if you would want to prove someone has lied, you should prove that he intentionally told something that he knew is not true. And this is why I think all listeners should always be careful on what they believe, because even if person doesn't lie, he may have wrong information.

 

[1213]

Gee, just how convenient that is to dismiss what's been researched and well noted. Apparently it's convenient for you to dismiss the fact that numerous members of his own party have referred to Trump as being a "pathological liar"-- their words, not mine. And take a look at Trump's long record as being a con-man:

How do you know that those who make the accusations are not lying?

I have never heard Biden praise "strong leaders" like Putin and even Saddam Hussein. I have heard Biden say he trusted Putin more than our own intelligence agencies. I never heard Biden get excited about the attempted overthrow of our government back on January 6th. I never heard Biden call any American election a "fraud"?

How or for what has Trump praised Putin and Hussein? (by his own words)

At this point I think it should be obvious to all, why he would rather believe Putin than own intelligence. Trump would have been stupid, if he would have trusted to those who were against him. But, trusting more to Putin does not necessary mean he trusted Putin much, just more than to them who now look like traitors.

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Why do you think Trump got "excited about the attempted overthrow of our government back on January 6th"? I think the whole idea that there was an attempt to overthrow of government is ludicrous.

That Biden doesn't call election fraud, does not mean there could not have been a fraud. Calling an election fraud is not a bad thing, especially if there is evidence for it. If people would really want that that elections are trusted, they should be held in a way that people can trust to them. I think elections are very important and they should be held so that the one that holds them, can prove they are honest and fair, otherwise there is no reason for anyone to trust to them.

A "puppet" of whom?

That is a good question. He seems to act for China and for communism, so the puppet master may be Xi Jinping. Maybe this riddle could be solved by looking who controls Biden's mic and who gave him record amount of money for the elections and for whose benefit he has made record number of executive orders.

 

[metis]

How do you know that those who make the accusations are not lying?

Well, there's eyewitness accounts and some recordings [such as Access Hollywood's], plus just plain old common sense when one actually listens to what he says. If one actually pays attention to what he says at his rallies, it's one item of hate after another after another... For example, like when he's bragged that he knows more than all our generals. Do you believe that? I certainly hope not.

How or for what has Trump praised Putin and Hussein? (by his own words)

5 Controversial Dictators and Leaders Donald Trump Has Praised

At this point I think it should be obvious to all, why he would rather believe Putin than own intelligence.

We have 17 intelligence agencies with some of them within the U.S. Armed Services-- and yet Trump and you believe more in Putin? There's words that cover that.

Why do you think Trump got "excited about the attempted overthrow of our government back on January 6th"? I think the whole idea that there was an attempt to overthrow of government is ludicrous.

Use some common sense here. Why do you think he also tried to arm-twist SoS' in Arizona and Georgia to "find votes"-- just enough to put him over the top? Did you actually listen to his actual phone call to the Repubican SoS in Georgia on that? It's on YouTube.

That Biden doesn't call election fraud, does not mean there could not have been a fraud.

His own fellow Republicans in the states he wanted to contest said there was no evidence of enough fraud to change the results of the election in each of those four states. Even his own A.G. Barr, said much the same.

He seems to act for China and for communism, so the puppet master may be Xi Jinping.

Oh, is that why he sold two nuclear subs to the Aussies? He did so to counter Chinese threats, plus he has warned Xi numerous times of harrassment.

Maybe this riddle could be solved by looking who controls Biden's mic and who gave him record amount of money for the elections and for whose benefit he has made record number of executive orders.

And did you check out Trump's fudnraising activities, including the times he violated U.S. election laws and was fined? See: Donald Trump fined $2m for misusing charity for political ends

Hey, it you want to excuse Trump's reputation as being a "con-man" and a "racist", then that's your choice. Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lawsuits_involving_Donald_Trump

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump

 

[pearl]

If only we had bothered to do a little background, how differently would things be now?

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[blü 2]

Good question, it would be nice to see even one thing that Trump has said that can be proven to be a lie.

If you want to close your eyes to such obvious things as Trump's lies, Trump's self-serving abuses of Presidential powers,and the pure nonsense of his claims about voter fraud, then there's no point in anyone informing you to the contrary.

So ... go well.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That Biden doesn't call election fraud, does not mean there could not have been a fraud. Calling an election fraud is not a bad thing, especially if there is evidence for it. If people would really want that that elections are trusted, they should be held in a way that people can trust to them. I think elections are very important and they should be held so that the one that holds them, can prove they are honest and fair, otherwise there is no reason for anyone to trust to them.

Fraud leaves evidence. Massive fraud leaves massive evidence. In the close states the votes were recounted. In Georgia, twice, once by hand. Then they did an analysis of the votes to see if there were fraudulent mail in votes. That did not occur either. Every time that they looked for fraud they could not find any. In the close states it was mainly people that were working for a Republican administration that could not find any fraud. Even the Cyber Ninjas could not find any evidence of fraud even with all of their insane hypotheses.

It was the most secure election ever. Your guy is simply the sorest loser ever.

 

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If you want to close your eyes to such obvious things as Trump's lies, Trump's self-serving abuses of Presidential powers...

Please tell by your own words one example of how Trump abused presidential powers and explain why do you think it was abusing. And also, please tell one example of his lie, by your own words and prove why it is a lie.