Religious Affiliation in USA Continues to Decline. WHY?

[outhouse]

The decline in religion is going to lead us to ' house ' cleaning.

Unsubstantiated rhetoric.

With education and knowledge being spread on the internet so quickly these days, there is little room for mythology in face of real knowledge being shared in such large amounts today.

Children are glued to the internet and they believe credible information they read , unless they have been brainwashed unto refusing reality by over zealous religious parents.

Religion is being pushed back into a corner by knowledge, with knowledge, it reduces the mythology in theology.

 

[outhouse]

Jesus will rid the earth of the wicked

You keep waiting , people have been waiting for thousands of years ALL in vain.

Everyone who has ever thought he is coming back, all have one thing in common, they have all been factually wrong, and all died without it happening.

 

[outhouse]

Maybe I'm just a pessimist but I don't think the factors driving the decline in religion in the US are going to lead us somewhere we want to be.

where do you think its going?


Religion has been a con game since it started. Religion has evolved for EVER. It just has been semi stagnant as monotheism developed in Abrahamic traditions.

With knowledge in the last 100 years, religion has been pushed out of "living mythology" into a guide for those who need it. People are no longer falling for ancient mens mythology.

You cannot equate the lifestyle in USA which is fast paced and less mythology driven, as a negative thing because people refuse mythology.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

I believe your statement is out of context.
John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world beholds me no more; but ye behold me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20 In that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
Jesus is speaking of the day when the Paraclete is given not the day of His return.
I believe this is incorrect because the New Jerusalem is in the clouds where people will be raptured to and the New Jerusalem will descend to earth.
I believe you know a lot of scripture but you do not know God. He would set you straight.

Please don't hold your breath waiting for what some have called rapture because ' flesh and blood ' (physical ) do Not inherit the kingdom- 1 Corinthians 15:50

If we could go up into the clouds, etc. then Noah would Not have had to build that Ark to save himself and the rest.

The topic or subject of 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 is dealing with resurrection being asleep in death until resurrection.
Jesus was caught up in the clouds - Acts of the Apostles 1:9 - only after Jesus was resurrected - 1 Corinthians 15:20; 1 Corinthians 15:23
So, those called to heaven - Revelation 20:6; Revelation 5:9-10; Revelation 2:10 - are resurrected to get there.
Those of verse 17 of 1 Thessalonians 4:17 will Not spend much time in death because there will No longer be the need for them to sleep in death at the time of Jesus' return.
Doesn't Revelation 21:2 have New Jerusalem ( Galatians 4:26 ) as ' coming down ' and Not as people going up to New Jerusalem ?

 

[URAVIP2ME]

You keep waiting , people have been waiting for thousands of years ALL in vain.
Everyone who has ever thought he is coming back, all have one thing in common, they have all been factually wrong, and all died without it happening.

How does people's guesses make the Scriptures as wrong, rather people's wrong guesses just make the wrong guesses as wrong !

What is unique about our day is that we have now reached the ' final phase ' of doing the spiritual work of Matthew 24:14; Acts of the Apostles 1:8
Never before in history has the earth been saturated about the Good News of God's Kingdom as it is being rapidly spread internationally today.
Modern technology has made rapid Bible translation possible so that people can read Scripture in their own mother tongue or native language as never before in history.

Also, we are nearing the ' final signal' , so to speak, of 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 when ' they ' ( the powers that be ) will be saying " Peace and Security " as a precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14 before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, ushers in global Peace on Earth among men of goodwill.

We won't have to be ' outhouse ' at that time, but be safe ' inhouse ' as Isaiah 26:20 says. The ' sheep ' of Matthew 25:31-33 will be kept safe.

 

[Demonslayer]

Modern technology has made rapid Bible translation possible so that people can read Scripture in their own mother tongue or native language as never before in history.

Jesus was waiting for the internet before his return?? I can't wait for the YouTube video of Jesus cruising back in to the atmosphere on his flying horses. That thing is going to get like a million hits.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

where do you think its going?
Religion has been a con game since it started. Religion has evolved for EVER. It just has been semi stagnant as monotheism developed in Abrahamic traditions.
With knowledge in the last 100 years, religion has been pushed out of "living mythology" into a guide for those who need it. People are no longer falling for ancient mens mythology.
You cannot equate the lifestyle in USA which is fast paced and less mythology driven, as a negative thing because people refuse mythology.

If we look at religion since it started, according to Scripture that basically would be after the Flood with Noah's great grandson Nimrod - Genesis 10:8-10
As the people migrated away from ancient Babylon they took with them their myth-religious practices and ideas and spread them world wide into a greater religious Babylon, or Babylon the Great. That is why we see so many similar overlapping religious-myth ideas and practices throughout the earth today.
So, that religious con game continues to today. Jesus even forewarned us that MANY would even come ' in his name' but prove false - Matthew 7:21-23
None of which makes the teachings of Jesus as false, but just makes false-religious practices and ideas as false.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Jesus was waiting for the internet before his return?? I can't wait for the YouTube video of Jesus cruising back in to the atmosphere on his flying horses. That thing is going to get like a million hits.

Since we are of the visible realm, we can Not see into the invisible realm of Revelation 19:14-15 - but we will see the effects of Jesus' words - Isaiah 11:3-4; Jeremiah 25:31-33

 

[JustWondering]

where do you think its going?


Religion has been a con game since it started. Religion has evolved for EVER. It just has been semi stagnant as monotheism developed in Abrahamic traditions.

With knowledge in the last 100 years, religion has been pushed out of "living mythology" into a guide for those who need it. People are no longer falling for ancient mens mythology.

You cannot equate the lifestyle in USA which is fast paced and less mythology driven, as a negative thing because people refuse mythology.

The negative trend I am referring to is the increased level of ignorance and intellectual laziness which younger generations seem to be embracing. I've had conversations where I had to explain what monotheism was to twenty something year olds. I've had to explain to a minister that Jews were not Christians and did not except Christ as their savior. I cannot discuss current news events with my ten coworkers (all of whom are younger than me) because none of them watch or read the news, ever. Our increased knowledge of the universe today is only beneficial if people actually take the time to learn about it and appreciate it.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Unsubstantiated rhetoric.
With education and knowledge being spread on the internet so quickly these days, there is little room for mythology in face of real knowledge being shared in such large amounts today.
Children are glued to the internet and they believe credible information they read , unless they have been brainwashed unto refusing reality by over zealous religious parents.
Religion is being pushed back into a corner by knowledge, with knowledge, it reduces the mythology in theology.

Well, yes, in the sense that religious mythology ( teachings outside of Scripture but taught as Scripture ) is causing people to dry up spiritually.
Before ancient Babylon was destroyed, the water around her was diverted so that it dried up - Revelation 16:12 - that pushed-back water made destruction possible.
Today's false religious ' waters ' ( people ) Revelation 17:1 B; Revelation 17:15; Isaiah 57:20 - are drying up spiritually which will make it easier for the political to turn on the world's religious groups, especially starting with Christendom because she claims to follow Jesus but often follows her own agenda out of harmony with the teachings of Christ.
- Matthew 15:9

 

[URAVIP2ME]

The negative trend I am referring to is the increased level of ignorance and intellectual laziness which younger generations seem to be embracing. I've had conversations where I had to explain what monotheism was to twenty something year olds. I've had to explain to a minister that Jews were not Christians and did not except Christ as their savior. I cannot discuss current news events with my ten coworkers (all of whom are younger than me) because none of them watch or read the news, ever. Our increased knowledge of the universe today is only beneficial if people actually take the time to learn about it and appreciate it.

Just thought your ^above ^ post bears repeating. It is just as the Romans said give the people ' bread and a circus ' ( food and entertainment )

Our increased knowledge of Scripture - Daniel 12:4; Daniel 12:9; Proverbs 4:18 - is possible because we can study the Bible by topic or subject arrangement, and thus be educated as to how today's news ties in with the teachings of Christ. So, our increased knowledge of Scripture is only beneficial if people actually take the time to learn and appreciate the teachings of Christ as recorded in Scripture, and Not according church tradition or customs outside of Scripture just being taught today as Scripture.

 

[Demonslayer]

Since we are of the visible realm, we can Not see into the invisible realm of Revelation 19:14-15

So why all the imagery about the flying horse army and the sword sticking out of his mouth if we're not actually going to see that? Why bother with such a vivid prediction, if you're now saying it's not going to actually happen?

 

[JustWondering]

Just thought your ^above ^ post bears repeating. It is just as the Romans said give the people ' bread and a circus ' ( food and entertainment )

Our increased knowledge of Scripture - Daniel 12:4; Daniel 12:9; Proverbs 4:18 - is possible because we can study the Bible by topic or subject arrangement, and thus be educated as to how today's news ties in with the teachings of Christ. So, our increased knowledge of Scripture is only beneficial if people actually take the time to learn and appreciate the teachings of Christ as recorded in Scripture, and Not according church tradition or customs outside of Scripture just being taught today as Scripture.

Unless bible scripture is turned into some smartphone game app like angry birds I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the masses to get fired up about learning bible scripture.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Unless bible scripture is turned into some smartphone game app like angry birds I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the masses to get fired up about learning bible scripture.

Masses won't get fired up. Matthew 24:14 is about a witness to the nations and Not a conversion of them.
One historian calculated that out of all the people that Jesus talked with that only 1% followed him.
Jesus said ' few ' would be on the narrow road or path to life - Matthew 7:13-15
Notice what Jesus said about the majority at Matthew 10:22

 

[URAVIP2ME]

So why all the imagery about the flying horse army and the sword sticking out of his mouth if we're not actually going to see that? Why bother with such a vivid prediction, if you're now saying it's not going to actually happen?

Like the wind, we do Not see the wind, nor we do Not see gravity, but we see the effects.
Notice the effects which will be visible on earth. -> Jeremiah 25:31-33
LQQK who ends up as visible bird food on earth -> Revelation 19:17-18

 

[outhouse]

What is unique about our day is that we have now reached the ' final phase '

No we have not.

many have said this, and all have been factually wrong.

 

[outhouse]

The negative trend I am referring to is the increased level of ignorance and intellectual laziness which younger generations seem to be embracing. I've had conversations where I had to explain what monotheism was to twenty something year olds. I've had to explain to a minister that Jews were not Christians and did not except Christ as their savior. I cannot discuss current news events with my ten coworkers (all of whom are younger than me) because none of them watch or read the news, ever. Our increased knowledge of the universe today is only beneficial if people actually take the time to learn about it and appreciate it.

Your problem is not with religion, its a lack of education on these topics. In that case I agree.

But my biggest problem is you cannot teach many religious people anything. They refuse credible knowledge

 

[outhouse]

Well, yes, in the sense that religious mythology ( teachings outside of Scripture but taught as Scripture ) is causing people to dry up spiritually.
Before ancient Babylon was destroyed, the water around her was diverted so that it dried up - Revelation 16:12 - that pushed-back water made destruction possible.
Today's false religious ' waters ' ( people ) Revelation 17:1 B; Revelation 17:15; Isaiah 57:20 - are drying up spiritually which will make it easier for the political to turn on the world's religious groups, especially starting with Christendom because she claims to follow Jesus but often follows her own agenda out of harmony with the teachings of Christ.
- Matthew 15:9

Your reply does not address anything I wrote in any credible context. It was all apologetic rhetoric with no real substance.

This is what is turning off the youth in America to religion. They see right through the rhetoric.


People today want real answers to nature and life, not ONE version of ancient mens mythology.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Your reply does not address anything I wrote in any credible context. It was all apologetic rhetoric with no real substance.
This is what is turning off the youth in America to religion. They see right through the rhetoric.
People today want real answers to nature and life, not ONE version of ancient mens mythology.

There are many self-help books, even Dr. Spock, whose men's books have now been proven to be myth, or constantly being needed to be updated.
People often write books, even car manuals, Not because of love but that it could be good for business, for profit.
Most people are looking to other people for guidance, and who is running this failing world but people.
People in the world often promote or reflect the qualities of the world, and of the one who is central to it and according to Scripture that's Satan - Revelation 12:12
How can promoting the world's qualities or attitudes give real answers to nature and life ?
Beauty and love were built into nature, into creation, with much variety to enjoy. It is because of men's tampering with it that has created man's messes that we see today.
The order or design built in nature has protected us, whereas what man creates or invents can even explode out of the blue.
Spaceships sent to wherever have to rely on the consistent orderliness of creation, or they are Not successful.

How is being liberated from the Bible's Golden Rule proven helpful ?
Does the Golden Rule, or Jesus' NEW commandment - John 13:34-35, ever need updating ?
If man would have obeyed God's guidance and direction in Genesis, earth today would be a paradise. A paradisical garden as Eden was a sample.
Ephesians 5:33 speaks volumes about marriage. Showing practical love with each one giving Not 50% but closer to 100% of one's self.
Having a close personal relationship between parent and child still hold true - Deuteronomy 6:6-7

Jesus was Not promoting living by going to some religious service once or twice a week, but Jesus was promoting a ' way of life ' or lifestyle.
Jesus exposed those false religious leaders, and pronounced many ' woes' against them along with his reasons why in the 23 chapter of Matthew. See also Matthew 15:9
Not Jesus' teachings, but false religious leaders pushing their own agenda as being Christ's agenda have turned people off because they think false clergy teach what Jesus taught.
Instead of building faith on biblical knowledge - Romans 12:2 - this system we live under molds people Not to pursue God's ways.
People don't want to face the fact that Nothing in this present system has a future because it is built on lies and can't be trusted.
Rather, how thankful we can be that Scripture teaches us that Jesus will be the one who will usher in global Peace on Earth among men of goodwill during Jesus' coming righteous 1,000 year governmental rulership over earth. We're all invited to pray for that - Revelation 22:20

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Does the Golden Rule, or Jesus' NEW commandment - John 13:34-35, ever need updating ?

The Golden Rule doesn't belong to the Bible, and doesn't demand religion.
And the sentiment of John 13:34-35 is fine. But if I love someone, it doesn't make me Jesus' disciple, sorry.