Religious announcements

[dybmh]

Jesus manifested the Tetragrammaton name , Jesus declared the Tetragrammaton name.

Yes, I understand.

Thank you , Many blessings to you and yours.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

The Glory of God does light the world. I wonder why we sleep!

Regards Tony

 

[dybmh]

I wonder why we sleep!

Because otherwise things can get pretty weird...

But seriously....

I heard once ( or read somewhere ) that dreaming is lower-level prophecy which is potentially open and accessible to everyone. So why deny oneself this manner of communion?

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Because otherwise things can get pretty weird...

But seriously....

I heard once ( or read somewhere ) that dreaming is lower-level prophecy which is potentially open and accessible to everyone. So why deny oneself this manner of communion?

But first we must know which dream do we learn from, the worldly based, the pure spiritual or the combination of both, how do we know what to choose?

Regards Tony

 

[savagewind]

Do Jews tend to regard Jesus as the Messiah?

I could Google it, but lately Google hasn't been giving me overly factual results.

I think that that post is hardly meaningless. What do you think @Jayhawker Soule?
Should I quelch a discussion thus risking going off-topic of meaningless? Or what?
Now I am confused. You were right all along. So, how does it feel to be perfect?

 

[wandering peacefully]

There exists a thread in the Games section where people post random thoughts about anything.

The Random, Meaningless Announcements Thread 2!

I would like to try a religion-centered version and see how it goes. We can talk about where our faith is leading us, etc., or it can be even a simple post like "I bought a Bible today." Atheists/agnostics can also post in this to learn or discuss, but please don't come with a serious bone to pick about religion

Now a couple of things to keep in mind. We have to be careful not to prosetylize in this thread since it's against the rules. Also, I'm posting this thread in a board where it's about discussion rather than debate.

Okay, I'll start...

I'm happy to have found Lord Vishnu in my heart. I look forward to learning more about Hinduism over the coming weeks. I dream of having a nice potluck with some Hindu people, even if potlucks are more of a Christian thing and we would have to be careful to make foods that aren't against people's diets.

I've been thinking about my situation with belief lately.

On the one hand I just cannot force myself to return to a religious style spirituality which I feel is manufactured by men and just do not believe. But on the other, I continue to have experiences which are timely and hard to explain even as coincidence. As an atheist in any of the so far proposed religious systems or gods, I still give thanks to things which come my way in nature or life and still treat them as something out of the ordinary when I'm not battling my conscious for reason, science and reality. Maybe even still believing in some type of spiritual transaction between myself and my experiences.

Problem being, my rational mind just cannot find a space to actually believe in such things. So I end up in a place of unbelief of my beliefs.

I miss the belief in magic and things unknown which just don't seem possible.

So, I'm toying with the idea of so what. So what if I pretend I believe in magic? So what if I sometimes pretend some type of communication with a spiritual realm? Can it hurt? Is it really doing any harm to anyone else? What if it brings a comfort of sorts to believe in the scientificaly impossible?

And extending it out further, does it really matter if anyone else believes in the impossible? Especially if it makes them feel better?

After all, we are here once. Isn't it best to allow oneself to experience this life in whatever manner suffices to make it a pleasant stay?

Just thinking aloud.

 

[savagewind]

Not "meaningless". I come around, usually. There are natural Jews who believe that the man Jesus was the messiah. But, I think that most Jews do not believe that.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

I think that that post is hardly meaningless. What do you think @Jayhawker Soule?
Should I quelch a discussion thus risking going off-topic of meaningless? Or what?
Now I am confused. You were right all along. So, how does it feel to be perfect?

Not "meaningless". I come around, usually. There are natural Jews who believe that the man Jesus was the messiah. But, I think that most Jews do not believe that.

I'm going to leave it up to individual posters whether they want to make religious posts in this thread without much meaning, or ones with meaning. Either way, it gets people focused on religion and the various ideas, etc. I left the word "Meaningless" out of the title.

 

[Vinayaka]

So, I'm toying with the idea of so what. So what if I pretend I believe in magic? So what if I sometimes pretend some type of communication with a spiritual realm? Can it hurt? Is it really doing any harm to anyone else? What if it brings a comfort of sorts to believe in the scientificaly impossible?

Regarding belief, 'so what' makes a lot of sense to me. With regard to action it doesn't. With action, 'Why?' makes more sense. If you're about to do something, and you ask yourself 'why?' but get no answer, maybe that's a clue.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Do Jews tend to regard Jesus as the Messiah?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What 'ends ' then is ' enemy death ' according to 1 Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8

When we are here, death is not, but when death is here we are not. Is your non-existence before your birth an enemy?

 

[dybmh]

But first we must know which dream do we learn from, the worldly based, the pure spiritual or the combination of both, how do we know what to choose?

It's a mystery.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

It's a mystery.

Indeed it is, as it the way of God for us.

What a great mystery we have to unravel.



Regards Tony

 

[Sinncubus-74]

That chaote moment when you realize at like 1 AM that you could paradigm shift yourself into being able to invoke Bugs Bunny if you wanted to, and you just kind of lay there pondering that thought.

 

[dybmh]

That chaote moment when you realize at like 1 AM that you could paradigm shift yourself into being able to invoke Bugs Bunny if you wanted to, and you just kind of lay there pondering that thought.

Just don't take a wrong turn at Albuquerque.... ( link )

 

[wandering peacefully]

Regarding belief, 'so what' makes a lot of sense to me. With regard to action it doesn't. With action, 'Why?' makes more sense. If you're about to do something, and you ask yourself 'why?' but get no answer, maybe that's a clue.

Sorry...I cannot figure out what you mean. With action? And who am I asking and what am I asking? I really was just pondering my old days of belief and spirituality. It was nice at the time but there really is no going back even if I wanted to. But every once in a while I can temporarily have a session of belief. Most always when in nature. That is my only religion.

 

[dybmh]

Don't believe the hype. Check the facts. When a person is consistently looking for validation, recognition, and reminding everyone of their "20+ years" of experience..

Guess what? They probably don't know squat.

 

[Vinayaka]

Sorry...I cannot figure out what you mean. With action? And who am I asking and what am I asking? I really was just pondering my old days of belief and spirituality. It was nice at the time but there really is no going back even if I wanted to. But every once in a while I can temporarily have a session of belief. Most always when in nature. That is my only religion.

Most likely I can't explain it, but I'll try. I separate belief and action. It's summed up in the old adage ... you can talk the talk but can you walk the walk? To me, talk the talk is all about belief, whereas walk the walk is about application of said belief.

Hinduism, and my version in particular, does have belief in it, but primarily it is about action. It doesn't really matter to me what a person believes ... or in other words 'So what?" However, it does matter to me what you do, or how a person conducts themselves. Anger management, self-control, kindness, charity ... all that good stuff.

The 'why' just happened to be what was on my mind the other day when I made that post, as it was just after a discussion with my SO, asking ourselves why we were planning to do something. So I was trying to relate it to all action, but probably took it to far. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[wandering peacefully]

Most likely I can't explain it, but I'll try. I separate belief and action. It's summed up in the old adage ... you can talk the talk but can you walk the walk? To me, talk the talk is all about belief, whereas walk the walk is about application of said belief.

Hinduism, and my version in particular, does have belief in it, but primarily it is about action. It doesn't really matter to me what a person believes ... or in other words 'So what?" However, it does matter to me what you do, or how a person conducts themselves. Anger management, self-control, kindness, charity ... all that good stuff.

The 'why' just happened to be what was on my mind the other day when I made that post, as it was just after a discussion with my SO, asking ourselves why we were planning to do something. So I was trying to relate it to all action, but probably took it to far. Sorry for the confusion.

Ahhh, I see said the blind man. No worries . Yes, definitely any religion that is talked about as something special by followers certainly should produce some type of special service which benefits others. Especially if it a proselytizing one. And certainly should cause no harm. Many of religious followers actually do good works. The very best do it with no strings attached in the form of hoping to recruit new members.

Those with personal beliefs never shared with others and not really having much to do with religions, should produce benificial actions or comfort to the person doing the believing. Occasional indulgence in imagination of the unknown was what I was trying to 'so what' myself into.

 

[Vinayaka]

Ahhh, I see said the blind man. No worries . Yes, definitely any religion that is talked about as something special by followers certainly should produce some type of special service which benefits others. Especially if it a proselytizing one. And certainly should cause no harm. Many of religious followers actually do good works. The very best do it with no strings attached in the form of hoping to recruit new members.

Those with personal beliefs never shared with others and not really having much to do with religions, should produce benificial actions or comfort to the person doing the believing. Occasional indulgence in imagination of the unknown was what I was trying to 'so what' myself into.

I think it's a healthy and useful expression, both in self-reflection, and as a response to others.