Republican Election plan to subvert the Presidential Election.

[Tambourine]

Kind if a weird thing to say especially if you refer to me as right wing...
But anyway, do you have examples of this silly behavior or did you just make it up?

I agree with everything you say! Down with the left!

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

As close as the things done by the left against Trump when he took office.

For example?

 

[Twilight Hue]

I agree with everything!

So does Biden.

Sniff sniff...

 

[Audie]

For example?

Seriously?

 

[Tambourine]

So does Biden.

Sniff sniff...

Down with the left!

 

[Revoltingest]

Remember folks to never disagree with right-wingers on this forum!
Disagreement with them is persecution and makes them unwelcome here on this board.

In my experience here, tis only those on the left (some) who've
been so damaged by my opposing beliefs that they've expressed
unfriendship & ignoring.
Conservatives & religious fundies I know have never reacted thus
when we've vigorously disagreed. I see Trump largely behind this.
He engendered such hostility that it damages psyches. May these
people some day recover their equanimity.

It's important to have friends one disagrees
with, lest one live in an echo chamber.

 

[Tambourine]

In my experience here, tis only those on the left (some) who've
been so damaged by my opposing beliefs that they've expressed
unfriendship & ignoring.
Conservatives & religious fundies I know have never reacted thus
when we've vigorously disagreed. I see Trump largely behind this.
He engendered such hostility that it damages psyches. May these
people some day recover their equanimity.

I agree with what you just said. Down with the left!

 

[Revoltingest]

I agree with what you just said! Down with the left!

Down with no one...even my political & religious foes.
Everyone can change for the better.
Let go of hate.

Edit...
I generally don't require that they change.

 

[Tambourine]

Down with no one...even my political & religious foes.
Everyone can change for the better.

I agree! Down with the left!

 

[Kenny]

In my experience here, tis only those on the left (some) who've
been so damaged by my opposing beliefs that they've expressed
unfriendship & ignoring.
Conservatives & religious fundies I know have never reacted thus
when we've vigorously disagreed. I see Trump largely behind this.
He engendered such hostility that it damages psyches. May these
people some day recover their equanimity.

It's important to have friends one disagrees
with, lest one live in an echo chamber.

As a religious fundie and a conservative, I would say that the problem was there was never a person that would actually stand up in the political arena so "why disagree"? So when someone came who just expressed (however wrong it was expressed) they finally said "FINALLY, someone who stands up against the rottenness in both parties" - so not that he engendered hostility but rather opened a floodgate for the frustrated to finally have some sort of voice (even if it isn't the best voice)

 

[Mock Turtle]

A special prison, say in the Aleutian for the likes of him and Hillary, where the presence of the other is the punishment.

Now which one has the poorest taste? (Assuming love blossoms in their shared cell)

 

[Revoltingest]

As a religious fundie and a conservative, I would say that the problem was there was never a person that would actually stand up in the political arena so "why disagree"? So when someone came who just expressed (however wrong it was expressed) they finally said "FINALLY, someone who stands up against the rottenness in both parties" - so no that he engendered hostility but rather opened a floodgate for the frustrated to finally have some sort of voice (even if it isn't the best voice)

We've long lived with political rottenness.
But his open hostility inspired the same in others.
So I give him major responsibility as the spark that ignited the current conflagration.

 

[Stevicus]

Republican Election plan to subvert the Presidential Election.

It is very clear, to me at least. That Trump and the republican party put in place a plan involving the use of election law in the run up to the Presidential election.

This plan envisaged the possible loss of the election. and how to mitigate the result by legal action.

Long before the election. The seeds were sown, by planting the suggestion that postal votes were unsafe. This was reinforced by many of Trumps tweets and speeches, leading up to the election, suggesting that the Democrats were planning to subvert the postal vote system.

This was followed by telling Trumps republican supporters not to vote by post. It was never stated why they should not do so, but only that they should vote in person.

The reason why has since become clear. In that if Trump were to become successful in having many Postal vote invalidated. It would then affect, Democrat votes and voters, far more than his own.

This was the Kernel of his plan.

The second part of the plan entailed arranging for as many objections to be raised on the day of the count as possible, so that they could, subsequently, be used in court, on which to hang objections and legal cases.

This large number of objections was important, so as to try to demonstrate a concerted and widespread plot by the Democrats. And to subvert the election process. This was to include as many objections to the actual count process, and count officials as possible.

A third string in the plan, entailed maintaining a strong majority in the Supreme court. To do this they went all out to fill the fortuitous vacancy before the election. Even though they had rejected the similar case, and had rejected the democrat candidate, offered prior to the previous election.

It is a clear case that Trump and the Republicans intended to subvert the law all along.
And are continuing with that plan right now.

All these stages can be seen to have been used. Though there might still be parts of the plan that have yet to come to light.

I don't know that there was ever any real "plan" on Trump's part. There does seem to be an effort to undermine faith in the electoral process and the results, countered by those who are deeply upset that people are losing faith in the process. I think these past few years have driven home the point that so much of our political system rests on faith, and once that faith is shaken or lost, then it's game over.

 

[exchemist]

As close as the things done by the left against Trump when he took office.

You will need to refresh my memory of what that would be. All I can recall was Clinton being careless about e-mails, rather than the active undermining of the democratic system by an entire political party.

But I'm not in the US so I may be unaware of what you are referring to.

 

[Kenny]

We've long lived with political rottenness.
But his open hostility inspired the same in others.
So I give him major responsibility as the spark that ignited the current conflagration.

I would think that the inspired destruction of property and fires has more to do with University professors (which sowed anti-speech, anti-democracy, anti-freedom messages) which happened WAY before Trump. At this point, any excuse was a good excuse to start the expression of hostilities in a physical manner.

And...

Political rottenness is stil rotten. Thus the expression "drain the swamp".

 

[tytlyf]

As a religious fundie and a conservative, I would say that the problem was there was never a person that would actually stand up in the political arena so "why disagree"? So when someone came who just expressed (however wrong it was expressed) they finally said "FINALLY, someone who stands up against the rottenness in both parties" - so not that he engendered hostility but rather opened a floodgate for the frustrated to finally have some sort of voice (even if it isn't the best voice)

You do realize that's a talking point repeated all over RW media? It's a ruse, trick.
Trump isn't standing up for you. He isn't cleaning anything up. He's enlarged the swamp. Just look at how many criminal indictments this administration has had.
Trump does not stand up for you. But he'll tell you he does. *wink wink*
Centuries old traditions teach to not give trust to a confidence man.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Seriously?

Very.

 

[Revoltingest]

I would think that the inspired destruction of property and fires has more to do with University professors (which sowed anti-speech, anti-democracy, anti-freedom messages) which happened WAY before Trump. At this point, any excuse was a good excuse to start the expression of hostilities in a physical manner.

And...

Political rottenness is stil rotten. Thus the expression "drain the swamp".

Of course, the blame is shared by many.

 

[Kenny]

You do realize that's a talking point repeated all over RW media? It's a ruse, trick.

Can the same be said for the other side of the coin?

 

[Kenny]

Of course, the blame is shared by many.

I would totally agree. It is easy to take the "Adam syndrome" and blame someone else when all had a part to play.