Republican Election plan to subvert the Presidential Election.

[Audie]

As happened with George W. Bush, when the validity of the electoral process is in question, the decision goes to the Congress, and if they cannot agree with a 2/3 majority (which they never would) then to the Supreme Court.

Fearing a loss, the republicans have been doing everything they can to invalidate the election, and send the decision to the Supreme Court, hoping to get Trump appointed, if he couldn't get elected. As was Bush..

Nonsense

 

[Audie]

Good thing liberals value sanity over humor.

Perhaps you did not understand what I said

 

[Goddess Kit]

Perhaps. Or perhaps some people should be more clear.

 

[Father Heathen]

The incessant barrage of false accusations to make it look like Trump was evil and unfit

Such as?

 

[Revoltingest]

I actually agree with you on this point, as I have also criticized some parts of the left, even if I'm philosophically mostly on the left. Many of those who voted for Biden were likely holding their noses while doing so, and I think many of us also expected that there would be tremendous squabbling and legal fights in the aftermath of the election.

There's one great thing about lefties voting for the lesser of 2 evils (Biden).
4 years ago, it was common here to call anyone who voted for Trump as
the lesser of 2 evils a "Trump supporter". But that insult has ended, now
that they've walked in our shoes.

 

[Audie]

Perhaps. Or perhaps some people should be more clear.

Others, unnamed, .....oh never mind.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Yep.
Solid evidence the left are clearly a bunch of hypocrites. No surprise to see it.

There you go again, with the hatred of people with differing political viewpoints.

I happen to be a bit to the left myself, and I do not think of myself as a hypocrite. It's not nice to tar whole swaths of people with the same brush.

 

[Stevicus]

On that note, the conservative party has been a joke for many generations.

I don't think conservatives or liberals are horrible people or anything like that. Some appear to be horrible, but they would still be that regardless of their political positions.

 

[Stevicus]

There's one great thing about lefties voting for the lesser of 2 evils (Biden).
4 years ago, it was common here to call anyone who voted for Trump as
the lesser of 2 evils a "Trump supporter". But that insult has ended, now
that they've walked in our shoes.

Well, there's still "basket of deplorables."

 

[Revoltingest]

Well, there's still "basket of deplorables."

That too has faded.
(Although it was a rather comical turn of phrase.)

 

[suncowiam]

There's one great thing about lefties voting for the lesser of 2 evils (Biden).
4 years ago, it was common here to call anyone who voted for Trump as
the lesser of 2 evils a "Trump supporter". But that insult has ended, now
that they've walked in our shoes.

I voted for Biden and you can consider me a Biden supporter. And yes, I think Biden is the lesser of two evils here.

Support is not only about rhetoric. It's about action. I physically supported this person with my vote. I understand my vote can put this person into power, which it did. So ultimately action defines support.

We can talk and talk and talk and talk some more, but talking means little to nothing without action. And if anyone voted for Trump, then most definitely I will call them a Trump supporter by my definition which I believe is the correct definition.

 

[Kenny]

Such as?

Russian Collusion
Racists
Etc.

 

[Revoltingest]

I voted for Biden and you can consider me a Biden supporter. And yes, I think Biden is the lesser of two evils here.

Support is not only about rhetoric. It's about action. I physically supported this person with my vote. I understand my vote can put this person into power, which it did. So ultimately action defines support.

We can talk and talk and talk and talk some more, but talking means little to nothing without action. And if anyone voted for Trump, then most definitely I will call them a Trump supporter by my definition which I believe is the correct definition.

Not surprising.
Nonetheless, it's still great that expressions of this view have waned.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Of course, there is the other side of the coin.

The incessant barrage of false accusations to make it look like Trump was evil and unfit

The seeds of "Trump will illegally keep the presidency"

The promotion of mail in ballots where there were no safeguards by the left

Postal service people throwing out ballots. Finding ballots on the side of the roads.

The refusal to let Republicans be part of the review of said ballots to then blame the Republicans for questioning the legitimacy

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court exceeding its authority

and then blaming the Republicans for what the Left created.

IMHO

and that is why we have a judicial system to sort out these things

none of those accusations are true.
Your argument is without merit.

 

[suncowiam]

Not surprising.
Nonetheless, it's still great that expressions of this view have waned.

Has it waned? And how?

 

[Revoltingest]

Has it waned?

Yes.

And how?

By those accusing me of it ceasing.

 

[Kenny]

none of those accusations are true.
Your argument is without merit.

Or... none of the other side of the coin is true and the argument is without merit.

 

[Goddess Kit]

The best side is that which supports the people. I just don't see that from the conservatives.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I don't know that there was ever any real "plan" on Trump's part. There does seem to be an effort to undermine faith in the electoral process and the results, countered by those who are deeply upset that people are losing faith in the process. I think these past few years have driven home the point that so much of our political system rests on faith, and once that faith is shaken or lost, then it's game over.

I would agree that Trump does not have it within him to come up with such a plan But Giuliani and Bannon do and it is evil enough for Trump to endorse it.

 

[suncowiam]

Yes.

By those accusing me of it ceasing.

Well, if I mentioned "you" in the previous post then it was meant as a "general you."

If one didn't vote for Trump this round, then yes, I would stop consider that one a Trump supporter.

Frankly, I like some libertarian ideals and eventually would like to support independents, but let's be honest. They have no chance of gaining power until our voting system changes. And it mostly revolves around money and contributions. We have to level the playing field for all candidates.