Republican House Whip Shot!

[Falvlun]

What's wrong with stating an opinion? I said I think the gunman is a disgruntled veteran based on recent congressional bills. Why is that a problem for you?

In case you haven't noticed, the political scene is very hyperbolic and dangerous right now. Put 2 and 2 together.

I'm entitled to my opinion, there are no rules against that in this thread. I'm not religious, so don't expect my comment on the thread to be 'prayers to the families.' Which would be a worthless opinion to begin with.

We aren't saying that there won't be reasons and motives for such a shooting.

We are saying that immediately blaming the victims is distasteful. We should take time to express concern for the victims, and to unhesitatingly condemn the shooter's actions.

Essentially, right now, you are like the person who blames the girl for being raped because of what she was wearing or how much she had to drink. It's gross, and it takes blame from where it actually falls: on the disgusting actions of the person who committed the assault.

The term "liberal terrorism" is already being bandied about in conjunction with this attack. As liberals, we need to make it clear that we do not support such actions, that we find them abhorrent, and that we unequivocally reject this method to bring about political change.

By suggesting that this attack is any way justified by the political actions of the victims is to play into the narrative that liberals believe such an action is acceptable.

And, no, you need not be religious to show a bit of human decency in wishing the victims a speedy recovery.

 

[Quetzal]

No it shouldn't be but are you surprised that it is going that way?

Not much surprises me anymore, as sad as that is. People are getting desperate and since we don't know the motive it is hard to pin point reason within it... if it is to be found at all.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I'm entitled to my opinion, there are no rules against that in this thread. I'm not religious, so don't expect my comment on the thread to be 'prayers to the families.' Which would be a worthless opinion to begin with.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Just to point out, our entire nation was birthed through violent revolt against oppressive government, after the "proper process" failed. The end of an era is often a bloody affair, and fate has a way of catching up to people.

 

[tytlyf]

Yes he rescinded a Obama executive order that violated the rights of citizens that had not be adjudicated as mentally ill. You don't have a problem with violating citizens rights without due process?

Do you think people with mental illnesses like PTSD should be able to buy a weapon?

The NRA is against any laws that could hurt their profits.

 

[esmith]

Not much surprises me anymore, as sad as that is. People are getting desperate and since we don't know the motive it is hard to pin point reason within it... if it is to be found at all.

The shooter is dead so we will probably never get a definitive answer to why.
All I can say is I wish all of the victims a speedy recovery and express my sympathy to their families, friends, and colleagues.

 

[tytlyf]

Take this discussion elsewhere, in my opinion it does not belong in this posting.

You can't even answer a single question. I bet you think terrorists should be able to freely buy weapons too (because due process). Do you think people with mental illnesses should be able to buy a weapon?

 

[esmith]

I have deleted all of my response to @tytlyf due to my ill mannered knee jerk reaction

 

[Quintessence]

Heard about this on the radio today. What rubbish. What on earth did the shooter think this would accomplish? Such idiocy. I suppose it's likely that they were not thinking.

 

[tytlyf]

I have deleted all of my response to @tytlyf due to my ill mannered knee jerk reaction

Asking a person their opinion on whether people with mental problems should be able to purchase weapons doesn't seem like a tough question.
Go ask the NRA what the response should be and get back to me. K thx.

 

[Akivah]

Heard about this on the radio today. What rubbish. What on earth did the shooter think this would accomplish? Such idiocy. I suppose it's likely that they were not thinking.

Perhaps the gunman thought it was acceptable due to the examples of Griffin's depiction of beheading the president and all the support that she's getting.

 

[Akivah]

Republican House Whip Steve Scalise, congressional staffer shot in Virginia shooting

A gunman targeted a group of Republican congressman practicing at a baseball field.

Congressman Steve Scalise, a staffer, and two Capitol Hill policeman were shot. Scalise is expected to recover (shot in hip) but no word yet on the others.

Sending good vibes towards those injured, for a quick recovery!

I pray that the wounded speedily recover.

 

[leibowde84]

Just another day in America.

I think the shooter may be a disgruntled veteran. The GOP just passed a couple veteran bills (which probably don't help veterans)

Apparently he was a progressive and a staunch Bernie supporter from Illinois. His facebook page shows he hates Trump and probably was targeting republicans. We officially have the most divisive president in history, and we are seeing the results now.

 

[leibowde84]

Really? At least one Republican Congressman was shot and you're going to take the opportunity to take verbal shots at Republicans? Really?

(I saw some reports that a Texas Congressman, Roger Williams, was taken away on a stretcher, but it was reported as not know if he had been shot.)

What evidence do you have that the shooter may be a disgruntled veteran?

Hey, Republican lawmakers are already taking shots at Democrats saying they need to "tone down the rhetoric" against Trump. Didn't take long for them to sink to that level. Trump is the reason we are so divided in this country.

 

[leibowde84]

Perhaps the gunman thought it was acceptable due to the examples of Griffin's depiction of beheading the president and all the support that she's getting.

What planet are you living on?! No one supported Griffin when she did that. She got fired from CNN and pretty much everyone was disgusted with her.

 

[leibowde84]

Republican House Whip Steve Scalise, congressional staffer shot in Virginia shooting

A gunman targeted a group of Republican congressman practicing at a baseball field.

Congressman Steve Scalise, a staffer, and two Capitol Hill policeman were shot. Scalise is expected to recover (shot in hip) but no word yet on the others.

Sending good vibes towards those injured, for a quick recovery!

I hope everyone makes a speedy recovery. Truly scary that this kind of thing would happen in DC.

 

[Skwim]

And Hodgkinson's weapon of choice? An M4 Assault Carbine. Why? because assault weapons like this, with their clips of 20-30 rounds, is what every hunter and protector of his domicile needs. Well, that and what it does to one's testosterone level.

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state,
the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

I say, let's start infringing a bit.​

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[sun rise]

The shooter is dead so we will probably never get a definitive answer to why.
All I can say is I wish all of the victims a speedy recovery and express my sympathy to their families, friends, and colleagues.

I too wish for a speedy recovery for all the injured.

 

[4consideration]

Hey, Republican lawmakers are already taking shots at Democrats saying they need to "tone down the rhetoric" against Trump. Didn't take long for them to sink to that level. Trump is the reason we are so divided in this country.

And I was making a comment to a poster for making comments about some Republicans being shot on a baseball field, with made up assumptions, while it was still unknown exactly who had been shot and who had done the shooting.

I don't understand the point of your response to me.

Would you like go back and address what I was actually responding to?

 

[BSM1]

That's true, I think Trump recently removed Obama's executive order barring people with mental illnesses from being able to buy a weapon.

You may be on something here. The shooter was a big time Bernie supporter so he definitely had a mental illness. This could be a yardstick for determining who should have a weapon going forward.