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Republican tells Native American to go back where you came from

gotti

Member
That doesn't even address the point. This Rep bunghole told a Native to back from where she came from. He's such an ignoramus he doesn't realize she is very much indeed where she came from, more so than his imbicilic hide.

Yes - I understand the gripe (most people would) but what else is there to do except shake your head in dismay or disbelief?

That's why I took it a step beyond to a philosophical place which was somewhat insincere but I now realize has a purpose; it had the intention of diffusing what we already know about this, otherwise, what else are we doing except expressing outrage?

Yeah - some ******* told someone to go back to where they came from. Ignorant, racist and insulting, especially for a person in power.

But, ultimately they both come from the same place and are likely both going back to where they came from. So I see no reason to be outraged when considering it in a spiritual sense.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
But, ultimately they both come from the same place and are likely both going back to where they came from. So I see no reason to be outraged when considering it in a spiritual sense.
I wish I wouldn't have finished reading.
It doesn't have crap to do with where they came from, it's entirely about a bleached white honkey who clearly thinks only white people belong here and everyone else is from some other country. The outrage is crackers like him belong back in the 19th Century when Klansmen openly held political power. He has no business or proper right representing America, a country that has been multicultural and multiethnic since before Constitutional Day One. Amd he said this to a Native who has been here way longer than all of American ancestors have.
The outrage is this America, attitudes like that have no place or busimess running the state. Literally, he told someone of a minority who has no immigrant story here in her family history (at least nothing at all comparable to what we non-Natives have) to go back to where she came from.
 

gotti

Member
Call it our for the racist absurdity it is.

Seems like an exercise in futility to me.

Anyone with even an elementary grasp on North American history knows that it's racist and absurd.

Anyone who doesn't likely isn't going to be convinced otherwise either.

I don't really see the point in getting off on vicarious outrage that other people seem to.

Edit: Like this -

I wish I wouldn't have finished reading.
It doesn't have crap to do with where they came from, it's entirely about a bleached white honkey who clearly thinks only white people belong here and everyone else is from some other country. The outrage is crackers like him belong back in the 19th Century when Klansmen openly held political power. He has no business or proper right representing America, a country that has been multicultural and multiethnic since before Constitutional Day One. Amd he said this to a Native who has been here way longer than all of American ancestors have.
The outrage is this America, attitudes like that have no place or busimess running the state. Literally, he told someone of a minority who has no immigrant story here in her family history (at least nothing at all comparable to what we non-Natives have) to go back to where she came from.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Seems like an exercise in futility to me.

Anyone with even an elementary grasp on North American history knows that it's racist and absurd.
It would be absurd to ignore it.
I don't really see the point in getting off on vicarious outrage that other people seem to.
There's nothing vicarious. I am personally outraged such a human **** dares to hold public office representing America.
 

gotti

Member
It would be absurd to ignore it.

There's nothing vicarious. I am personally outraged such a human **** dares to hold public office representing America.

"Carter-Goodheart said he then told her she should go back to where she came from, and heatedly stormed off."

It doesn't even necessarily seem like he was basing his angry reaction to a well-thought out historical excavation of her ancestry.

Seems like he just got pissed off and that was his way of telling her to **** off.

I don't think it's absurd to brush this off as something that isn't really that important.

The idea that America is somehow infested with Nazis is pretty ridiculous, absurd and - at this point - really tiresome to a lot of people; so you're going to get reactions like this nowadays when people suggest that Nazism and white supremacy are genuine threats in the USA.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
"Carter-Goodheart said he then told her she should go back to where she came from, and heatedly stormed off."

It doesn't even necessarily seem like he was basing his angry reaction to a well-thought out historical excavation of her ancestry.

Seems like he just got pissed off and that was his way of telling her to **** off.

I don't think it's absurd to brush this off as something that isn't really that important.

The idea that America is somehow infested with Nazis is pretty ridiculous, absurd and - at this point - really tiresome to a lot of people; so you're going to get reactions like this nowadays when people suggest that Nazism and white supremacy are genuine threats in the USA.
Why do you keep defending, dismissing and down playing overt and blatant racism?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I'm not. And haven't.
Yes, you have.
So it's not entirely absurd to tell anyone that.
But, ultimately they both come from the same place and are likely both going back to where they came from. So I see no reason to be outraged when considering it in a spiritual sense.
Seems like an exercise in futility to me.
I don't think it's absurd to brush this off as something that isn't really that important.
so you're going to get reactions like this nowadays when people suggest that Nazism and white supremacy are genuine threats in the USA.
 

gotti

Member
Yes, you have.

No. Because what he said and did wasn't necessarily "blatant racism" like I already said.

They were probably both born in the same country and only a few generation down the line renders the point moot.

The more I think about it, this just seems like outrage porn more than anything else.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
No. Because what he said and did wasn't necessarily "blatant racism" like I already said.
Yes, it was. He saw skin that isn't white and automatically assumed it came from somewhere else.
They were probably both born in the same country and only a few generation down the line renders the point moot.
No. For the white man a few generations down and he has immigrant ancestors coming here. For the Native Lady we'd have to go back no less than 14,000 years before that applies, but probably even further back than that and there weren't others here already like when the white mans ancestor's arrived.
The more I think about it, this just seems like outrage porn more than anything else.
Because you keep dismissing and downplaying the racism of a man who has no business representing America.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I wish I wouldn't have finished reading.
It doesn't have crap to do with where they came from, it's entirely about a bleached white honkey who clearly thinks only white people belong here and everyone else is from some other country. The outrage is crackers like him....
Meta racism doesn't help.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No, Dan Foreman, why don't you go back to where you came from. England, maybe?
Reminds me of something that could be said
to the guy. (I will not translate or spell it correctly.)
Eed you peach koo zah mahd ree.

It's a command to return to where he came from.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Near the end of my teaching career, one of our security guards made some anti-Semitic statements against three Jewish staff members, was fired, and then he went to Idaho.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Near the end of my teaching career, one of our security guards made some anti-Semitic statements against three Jewish staff members, was fired, and then he went to Idaho.
Anti-Islamic statements are more tolerated.
(I can't any info about whether the offender still works there.)
Ann Arbor (my town) has a pervasive problem with this,
despite having very many Muslims...who cause no trouble.
 
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