Republicans consider removing Biden from state ballots. A new fad is born.

[Estro Felino]

"come on" is not an argument, nor is it evidence.

It's a bit arrogant to play dirty and expect the other side not to counterattack, isn't it?

 

[Soandso]

It's a bit arrogant to play dirty and expect the other side not to counterattack, isn't it?

Upholding the constitution is playing dirty?... The guy tried to glom onto his power at the expense of the American people via a coup that thankfully failed. That's playing dirty

 

[Altfish]

The state of US politics in the days of the orange monster

 

[Estro Felino]

Upholding the constitution is playing dirty?... The guy tried to glom onto his power at the expense of the American people via a coup that thankfully failed. That's playing dirty

Nothing proves Trump encouraged protesters to cross the line.
Everything proves Trump said to demonstrate peacefully.

 

[SkepticThinker]

It's a bit arrogant to play dirty and expect the other side not to counterattack, isn't it?

Who's playing dirty?

 

[Estro Felino]

Who's playing dirty?

Colorado.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Colorado.

What's dirty about it?

 

[Estro Felino]

What's dirty about it?

That day Trump was in NJ...if I recall correctly.
He had nothing to do with what happened in Washington DC.

 

[SkepticThinker]

That day Trump was in NJ...if I recall correctly.
He had nothing to do with what happened in Washington DC.

Trump was down the street from the Capitol on January 6th, and by his own admission, planned on marching to the Capitol with the mob. (The Secret Service stopped him from doing so and took him back to the White house where he sat and watched the insurrection unfold for like two hours while everyone around him begged him to tell the crowd to stop).

Trump is the guy who led the entire "Stop the Steal" stolen election movement. He's the ringleader. A whole bunch of his followers who invaded the Capitol claimed during their trials, that they were there because of Trump. Without him, January 6th probably would never have happened.

 

[Twilight Hue]

At least the Democrats have actual valid reasons, that they can demonstrate.
The Republicans don't seem to have any reason at all other than "We're mad!"

Valid reasons are not any excuse to subvert due process for the purpose of eliminating one's opponent on the basis of opinion.

If they had waited for a formal criminal conviction, then this wouldn't even be an issue.

You can't just remove a person on the opinion one dosent like the guy and /or an opportunity taken to just get rid of one's opponent for political advantage.

That's what despots and dictatorships do.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Valid reasons are not any excuse to subvert due process for the purpose of eliminating one's opponent on the basis of opinion.

If they had waited for a formal criminal conviction, then this wouldn't even be an issue.

You can't just remove a person on the opinion one dosent like the guy and /or an opportunity taken to just get rid of one's opponent for political advantage.

That's what despots and dictatorships do.

Who's subverting due process? They've cited the Constitution - which doesn't say anything about requiring criminal conviction. And everything was decided in a court of law based upon the available evidence. Is that not the definition of due process?


Nobody cited his removal from the ballot based on "We don't like him." (That would be a Republican in Texas in regards to Joe Biden though, apparently. Same goes for the impeachment inquiry, apparently.)

 

[Twilight Hue]

Nothing conservative about the idea of playing such a game.

Need to create an actual Conservative Party.

Yea. Stooping to low key subterfuge of the nation's election system should stay with the neo-democrat people's party, and not become a thing with the Republicans who should maintain higher standards than going to the lows the Democrats are now identified and verified as being , since their true colors are now on display for everyone to see by what they did in Colorado.

They , meaning today's neo-democrats, never were a party of fair elections. They never intended to be, nor will be either , unless they make an extreme paradigm shift to the blue democrats of the past ,and show they could be a party that can be trusted to hold fair and equitable elections. For now, they can't be trusted anymore.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Who's subverting due process? They've cited the Constitution - which doesn't say anything about requiring criminal conviction. And everything was decided in a court of law based upon the available evidence. Is that not the definition of due process?


Nobody cited his removal from the ballot based on "We don't like him." (That would be a Republican in Texas in regards to Joe Biden though, apparently. Same goes for the impeachment inquiry, apparently.)

Then its fair to have the favor returned then. Bottom line.

Is that what you want? More candidates arbitrarily removed without any valid reason completely void of due process with respect towards double jeopardy legislation ment for a persons protection of being tried twice for the same crime?

 

[McBell]

More candidates arbitrarily removed without any valid reason completely void of due process with respect towards double jeopardy legislation ment for a persons protection of being tried twice for the same crime?

**climbs into boat**

Did I get any on me?

 

[Bthoth]

Yea. Stooping to low key subterfuge of the nation's election system should stay with the neo-democrat people's party, and not become a thing with the Republicans who should maintain higher standards than going to the lows the Democrats are now identified and verified as being , since their true colors are now on display for everyone to see by what they did in Colorado.

The state helped put trump into office and perhaps felt so guilty, that they are making sure the stoners cannot do it again.

They , meaning today's neo-democrats, never were a party of fair elections. They never intended to be, nor will be either , unless they make an extreme paradigm shift to the blue democrats of the past ,and show they could be a party that can be trusted to hold fair and equitable elections. For now, they can't be trusted anymore.

I liked Obama and My Dad told me, Clinton was the smartest politician that he ever met. Pops knows a bunch of big wigs. The guys that went to the moon were pops friends let alone the big wigs of hughs aircraft were golf buddies from the club.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Then its fair to have the favor returned then. Bottom line.

Is that what you want? More candidates arbitrarily removed without any valid reason completely void of due process with respect towards double jeopardy legislation ment for a persons protection of being tried twice for the same crime?

This was in response to, "Who's subverting due process? They've cited the Constitution - which doesn't say anything about requiring criminal conviction. And everything was decided in a court of law based upon the available evidence. Is that not the definition of due process?

Nobody cited his removal from the ballot based on "We don't like him." (That would be a Republican in Texas in regards to Joe Biden though, apparently. Same goes for the impeachment inquiry, apparently."


I don't see where your response addresses what I said in response to your claim that due process has been subverted. You just seem to have repeated yourself.

I want due process to be followed. And it was.

 

[Twilight Hue]

This was in response to, "Who's subverting due process? They've cited the Constitution - which doesn't say anything about requiring criminal conviction. And everything was decided in a court of law based upon the available evidence. Is that not the definition of due process?

Nobody cited his removal from the ballot based on "We don't like him." (That would be a Republican in Texas in regards to Joe Biden though, apparently. Same goes for the impeachment inquiry, apparently."


I don't see where your response addresses what I said in response to your claim that due process has been subverted. You just seem to have repeated yourself.

I want due process to be followed. And it was.

I would absolutely love to see if this had been reversed, if it had been Biden who was removed from a state ballot. Just to see the kind of responses that would follow.

Of course, if the Republicans do that in kind, without due process or any kind of a conviction, I may just get that wish yet and it seems Florida may just be that state.

The due process you're talking about would be double jeopardy, since again Trump's trial is slated in January and in the People's Republic of New York and not Colorado.


The way you're sounding , it seems like any state can remove any candidate from the ballot willy-nilly just at the behest of the judiciary and likely the governor as well.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I would absolutely love to see if this had been reversed, if it had been Biden who was removed from a state ballot. Just to see the kind of responses that would follow.

Of course, if the Republicans do that in kind, without due process or any kind of a conviction, I may just get that wish yet and it seems Florida may just be that state.

So you're just not going to address anything I said.

If Biden were removed from the state ballot, based on the same evidence Trump was, I'd support it. I don't back insurrectionist dictator-wanna-bes.

The way you're sounding , it seems like any state can remove any candidate from the ballot willy-nilly just at the behest of the judiciary and likely the governor as well.

This is the third time you're repeating this. We're not talking about the subversion of due process or "willy-nilly" anything. Due process has been followed, as noted in my first response to you.

 

[Twilight Hue]

So you're just not going to address anything I said.

If Biden were removed from the state ballot, based on the same evidence Trump was, I'd support it. I don't back criminals.

This is the third time you're repeating this. We're not talking about the subversion of due process or "willy-nilly" anything. Due process has been followed, as noted in my first response to you.

No it hasn't been followed.

I'll ask you then....

What qualifies this as due process in this instance that dosent violate double jeopardy laws meant to protect an already accused person under indictment?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Upholding the constitution is playing dirty?... The guy tried to glom onto his power at the expense of the American people via a coup that thankfully failed. That's playing dirty

And now the Democrats are doing a bloodless coup attempt themselves by eliminating their opponents on the ballot.

Coup. Lol. Boy, are you guys silly or what?