Republicans consider removing Biden from state ballots. A new fad is born.

[SkepticThinker]

No it hasn't been followed.

I'll ask you then....

What qualifies this as due process in this instance that dosent violate double jeopardy laws meant to protect an already accused person under indictment?

Then how on earth are we talking about a judicial decision, if due process has not been followed??

I said this before, and you said nothing in response:

Who's subverting due process? They've cited the Constitution - which doesn't say anything about requiring criminal conviction. And everything was decided in a court of law based upon the available evidence. Is that not the definition of due process?

 

[SkepticThinker]

And now the Democrats are doing a bloodless coup attempt themselves by eliminating their opponents on the ballot.

Coup. Lol. Boy, are you guys silly or what?

LOL Gimme a break.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Then how on earth are we talking about a judicial decision, if due process has not been followed??

I said this before, and you said nothing in response:

Who's subverting due process? They've cited the Constitution - which doesn't say anything about requiring criminal conviction. And everything was decided in a court of law based upon the available evidence. Is that not the definition of due process?

In that case the Republicans are perfectly justified now in following in kind , the exact way that the Democrats had here including the justifications in doing so.

Then you could tell me afterwards how due process has been served and the constitution upheld.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Democrats will win anyway.
They have found an infallible system...as we saw in 2020.

Yes, it is called getting more people to vote for you. Shameful!

 

[Subduction Zone]

Well think about it.

This was clearly initiated and spearheaded by Democrats first and Republicans are now considering playing the same "sabotage" games now. Well all one has to do is look at that one in the mirror in light of the forced removal of a candidate that at this point by Colorado democrats, Trump at present, remains unconvicted by any Court of law.

This 'trial' was and is a case of double jeopardy in light the same crime Trump is being accused of is really slated to occur in March 2024.

Same way Democrats had motivated Trump to run for President in the first place, who at the time thought Trump was joking making a statement, but we all know how that turned out.

If Democrats followed the rules , this illegal ouster would never have happened. After the court ruling in NY sure, remove Trump from the ballot if guilty. Not before any conviction is legally declared.

This particular bed is made by Democrats however on this, and now they have to lay in it.

I see that you do not even understand the concept of double jeopardy. Where are the violations of the law is Trump being charged criminally more than once.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nothing proves Trump encouraged protesters to cross the line.
Everything proves Trump said to demonstrate peacefully.

You need to listen to all of that speech.

 

[Subduction Zone]

And now the Democrats are doing a bloodless coup attempt themselves by eliminating their opponents on the ballot.

Coup. Lol. Boy, are you guys silly or what?

The Democrats have the Constitution on their side. What supports the Republicans?

 

[McBell]

I see that you do not even understand the concept of double jeopardy. Where are the violations of the law is Trump being charged criminally more than once.

It has been explained to him numerous times and he still clings desperately to it.

Interesting how not even Trump is claiming the Colorado verdict is double jeopardy...

Perhaps he learned his lesson when he tried that nonsense with the impeachment and then the current trial..?

 

[Soandso]

And now the Democrats are doing a bloodless coup attempt themselves by eliminating their opponents on the ballot.

False equivalence. More fake grievances

Coup. Lol. Boy, are you guys silly or what?

coup
noun
1.
a sudden, violent, and unlawful seizure of power from a government.

 

[Mister Emu]

It's funny how Republicans try to sell this "we'll leave you alone if you leave us alone (as we break all sorts of laws)" line when it's obvious to anyone that Republicans will mess with Democrats - and the democratic process - any way they can think of without prompting.

Pesky thing, history being what it is, though.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Because retaliatory actions are so helpful. We have Kindergartners running the country.

Frankly, I'm not surprised by how these Republicans are behaving because I don't expect anything better from them. In my opinion, if they had the slightest hint of personal intergrity, they wouldn't be his sychophantic supporters in the first place. Despite the shortcomings of the Democratic Party, I consider the Democrats to be less of a threat to freedom, liberty, and justice for all than MAGA-conservative Christian Republicans. However, I wish they would choose a better candidate other than Biden, but if it comes down to him and Trump again in the 2024 presidential election, my choice is clear. I'll vote for Biden again. I voted Republican for 26 years until the 2016 presidential election. I voted third party for the first time ever in that election, and I voted Democratic for the first time ever in the 2020 presidential election. I refuse to support the Republican Party with my votes and money again as long as Trump and his sycophantic cohorts are controlling it. I'll continue to support Democrats. In my opinion, Trump and his loyal cohorts are a serious threat to our democracy.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Republicans Team Up to Remove Biden From State Ballots: 'Unfair, Abuse of Power'

townhall.com

Remember when I mentioned Democrats create their own monsters?

Welcome to the newest political fad to hit the scene!

The fine art of removing one's political opponents from state ballots. Convictions no longer required.

I suggest everyone now becomes only a write in candidate for all future elections henceforth , then nobody will have to deal with that pesky and irritating ballot list anymore.

So when did he commit treason?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Pesky thing, history being what it is, though.

Amd Republicans will not be remembered as good or decent.

 

[Twilight Hue]

So when did he commit treason?

I have no idea whatsoever where that came from.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I have no idea whatsoever where that came from.

It's why Trump was removed in Colorado. What has Biden done other than **** off Reps and Cons for existing as president?

 

[Twilight Hue]

It's why Trump was removed in Colorado. What has Biden done other than **** off Reps and Cons for existing as president?

You can't remove someone who hasn't been convicted yet. At least it ought to be that way.

Another thing is treason is a criminal act , so this whole thing really is just a farce intended to eliminate political competition and take advantage of the electoral process , which is of course very very illegal in itself imv.

It's why I'm sure this whole thing is going to the federal Supreme Court to stop the neo-democrats from interfering with the election process in this country.

 

[fantome profane]

You can't remove someone who hasn't been convicted yet. At least it ought to be that way.

But it isn't the way it is. You need to be able to see things the way they are and not the way you personally think they ought to be.

What was done in Colorado was done in accordance with the Constitution and U.S. federal and state law.

 

[Twilight Hue]

False equivalence. More fake grievances



coup
noun
1.
a sudden, violent, and unlawful seizure of power from a government.

I never thought of a bunch of Yahoo's running around a building creating havoc and god knows what, is the equivalent requisite for forcefully seizing actual dominating power and control of an entire country without any type of military or police force to back them up for the duration of their new rule over all the land.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

You can't remove someone who hasn't been convicted yet. At least it ought to be that way.

But you know that the law isn't the way you think it "ought" to be, right?

Another thing is treason is a criminal act , so this whole thing really is just a farce intended to eliminate political competition and take advantage of the electoral process , which is of course very very illegal in itself imv.

What's illegal about it?

The 14th Amendment doesn't even specify that a trial is required. You commit insurrection? Boom - you're ineligible.

I think that having a thoughtful trial is probably preferable to the other way this could have all gone down: in a ruling by the VP on the admissibility of Electoral College votes after the election has already happened.

It's why I'm sure this whole thing is going to the federal Supreme Court to stop the neo-democrats from interfering with the election process in this country.

What outcome do you 1) want and 2) think is most likely if this goes to the Supreme Court?

Personally, I could see them ruling in a way that lets Trump back on the ballot but doesn't resolve whether he's actually eligible, kicking that question down the road until the votes are counted... and then everything goes to crap.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You can't remove someone who hasn't been convicted yet. At least it ought to be that way.

Another thing is treason is a criminal act , so this whole thing really is just a farce intended to eliminate political competition and take advantage of the electoral process , which is of course very very illegal in itself imv.

It's why I'm sure this whole thing is going to the federal Supreme Court to stop the neo-democrats from interfering with the election process in this country.

You do know it was the Colorado Supreme Court, and not Democrats, who made the ruling?
And Trump did betray the country when he sowed so much doubt and confusion over the election that he lit a fire that he threw dynamite on just as the election results were to become official. For his treason it should be "Trump for the gallows 2024."

I never thought of a bunch of Yahoo's running around a building creating havoc and god knows what, is the equivalent requisite for forcefully seizing actual dominating power and control of an entire country without any type of military or police force to back them up for the duration of their new rule over all the land.

Its actually happened successfully more than once in American history. Not federally, but insurrection san police and military is a thing.
Amd their goals didn't need them. It was prevent the election results from becoming official amd causing such a ruckus that the normal process is bypassed, creating a number of scenarios where Trump wins instead.