Resurrection of Christ

[angellous_evangellous]

Where may i ask is your evidence for this??there is Roman and jewish records of his death eg Cornelius Tacitus in his Annals, xv. 44: Christus ... was executed at the hands of the procurator Pontious Pilate or Lucian of Samosata: (Christ was) the man who was crucified in Palestine, neither of these were or ever became christians. The is evidence from jewish scolars aswel The Amoa "Ulla" (Ulla was a disciple of Youchanan and lived in Palestine at the end of the 1st century) adds: "And do you suppose that for (Yeshu of Nazareth - Jesus) there was any right of appeal? He was a beguiler, and the Merciful One hath said: "Thou shalt not spare neither shalt thou conceal him." It is otherwise with Yeshu, for He was near to the civil authority.
so clearly wasnt just unconcious

I don't know of a serious historian who would take this stuff as evidence.

 

[Popeyesays]

You are correct.


Adam is alive as evidenced in Romans 5:14 ("Nevertheless death reigned fromAdam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude ofAdam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come." Notice the present tense verb "is"). The simple answer is that he is with his Father in heaven.

I am talking about physical life, after all even Jesus died. NBo man has lived forever. Flesh corrupts, and is absorbed into other living things. It is lost without trace, it is dust in the wind.

The spirit never dies, but it is immoprtal not eternal since every thing in the universe had a moment of commencement before which it did not exist.

Regards,
Scott

 

[logician]

Everything dies, universes die and are reborn. There nothing proven that is separate from the physical body, which must die. Make the best of this life, it's all you've got.

 

[lew0049]

Everything dies, universes die and are reborn. There nothing proven that is separate from the physical body, which must die. Make the best of this life, it's all you've got.

I find it ironic that your first statement is then followed by a criticism towards things that aren't proven. Especially, since science would the tool used to prove that universes die and are reborn, yet only theories remain - with the motto that someday it will be proven.

Have you ever considered the posibility that only having faith in scientific theories, with regard to examplanations for mankind, neglects intelligence? (your quote)

 

[crystalonyx]

I find it ironic that your first statement is then followed by a criticism towards things that aren't proven. Especially, since science would the tool used to prove that universes die and are reborn, yet only theories remain - with the motto that someday it will be proven.

Have you ever considered the posibility that only having faith in scientific theories, with regard to examplanations for mankind, neglects intelligence? (your quote)

I think its pretty well been proven that universe die and are reborn, you are the one that seems to have faith in an unproven god.

 

[lew0049]

I think its pretty well been proven that universe die and are reborn, you are the one that seems to have faith in an unproven god.

your "pretty well been proven" = a 100% thoery. If only a universe dying and being reborn had anything to do with the beginning - how do you make something out of nothing?

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Everything dies, universes die and are reborn. There nothing proven that is separate from the physical body, which must die. Make the best of this life, it's all you've got.

"And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry."
Luke 12:18

 

[Darkness]

"And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry."
Luke 12:18

However thou cannot be with someone thou truly love of the same-sex in merriment, because I think it is yucky.

Memoirs and Confessions of Yahweh​

 

[logician]

your "pretty well been proven" = a 100% thoery. If only a universe dying and being reborn had anything to do with the beginning - how do you make something out of nothing?

There is no such thing as nothing, "something" has always existed.

 

[Darkness]

There is no such thing as nothing, "something" has always existed.

While there has always been something, that something has not been around for all eternity. Think about it. Ponder it. Love it.

 

[logician]

While there has always been something, that something has not been around for all eternity. Think about it. Ponder it. Love it.

And I disagree, there's always been "something".

 

[Darkness]

And I disagree, there's always been "something".

I assent. My previous post does not contradict your statement.

 

[Popeyesays]

There is no such thing as nothing, "something" has always existed.

I agree.

Regards,
Scott

 

[Francine]

There is no such thing as nothing, "something" has always existed.

Do you have evidence, or is this another one of those metaphysical conjectures?

 

[logician]

Do you have evidence, or is this another one of those metaphysical conjectures?

The jump from "nothing" to "something" is an infinite gap, whether that "something" be a god, or matter and energy, that's why I think there's always been "something".
The wrong assumption to make is that we started with "nothing".

 

[Francine]

The jump from "nothing" to "something" is an infinite gap, whether that "something" be a god, or matter and energy, that's why I think there's always been "something".

Using the same mode of thinking, we never get from point A to point B because we always halve the distance in an infinite series of steps, and we always have some residual distance remaining from ourselves to point B that can be halved again. This drove Zeno nuts, but ever since quantum mechanics was developed, we began thinking of the smallest units of space and time as some mininum value, 10^-33 cm in length and 10^-43 seconds in duration. When we get that far from point B, we jump the final gap all at one go. So by the same token, the leap from nothing to something does not run into the division by zero error, but involves what they call in calculus class infinitesimals.

 

[logician]

Using the same mode of thinking, we never get from point A to point B because we always halve the distance in an infinite series of steps, and we always have some residual distance remaining from ourselves to point B that can be halved again. This drove Zeno nuts, but ever since quantum mechanics was developed, we began thinking of the smallest units of space and time as some mininum value, 10^-33 cm in length and 10^-43 seconds in duration. When we get that far from point B, we jump the final gap all at one go. So by the same token, the leap from nothing to something does not run into the division by zero error, but involves what they call in calculus class infinitesimals.

But incredibly small is not nothing, it's something.

 

[Popeyesays]

But incredibly small is not nothing, it's something.

Exceedinjgly smal? Yes. Also exceedingly unstable. Where did it come from?

Regards,
Scott

 

[Francine]

Exceedinjgly smal? Yes. Also exceedingly unstable. Where did it come from?

Quantum Fluctuation

 

[Popeyesays]

Quantum Fluctuation

Yeah, absolutely. Now where did quantum flux come from? Where did the energy state [potential come from?

Regards,
Scott