Richard Dawkins lies

[FearGod]

I haven't used all of them to know which one is best. Perhaps you should ask that professor which one he used when he tested the salinity around the under ocean springs (or not).

The model on this website would likely do a suitable job: Salinity Refractometer for Reef Aquarium Ocean - Bulk Lot of (100) Units $19.99 each!

Next question.

You're the one who adviced me to check it myself and not the professor.

 

[FearGod]

I have decided to post the Ysusf Ali translation here, so that more details which are not always included can be seen;

From Surah 55:
19. He has let free the two bodies of flowing water, meeting together:

20. Between them is a Barrier which they do not transgress:

21. Then which of the favors of your Lord will ye deny?

22. Out of them come Pearls and Coral:

23. Then which of the favors of your Lord will ye deny?

Obviously any lake or any river from which pearls and coral don't come can't be the one described in the Qur'an, neither can the polar halocline since the plural word "them" referring to both seas is used with respect to coral and pearl production, and I don't know of any coral which grows in polar regions. The more I think about it, the more I feel doubtful that this refers to any known (physical) natural phenomenan.

Good note which makes me to think that there is a relation between the freshwater springs with corals & pearls.

Submarine springs reveal how coral reefs respond to ocean acidification

Ocean acidification due to rising carbon dioxide levels will reduce the density of coral skeletons, making coral reefs more vulnerable to disruption and erosion, according to a new study of corals growing where submarine springs naturally lower the pH of seawater.


Coral Reefs

Many cultured pearl farms are located in areas of the Pacific that boast the greatest marine biodiversity on the planet. These are also areas that are affected by coral reef degradation. Coral reefs play an important role in the life cycle of pearl oysters: they are substrates for reproduction, sources of nutrients for oysters and home to many fish and other organisms that play an important role in maintaining oyster health. In French Polynesia, for example, many smaller farms let reef fish remove biofouling from pearl oysters. This practice is founded on healthy fish populations that are often found in reef ecosystems

 

[InvestigateTruth]

How come the verse not correct,the verse exactly shows that both bodies of water go through each other while each keeping it's own charactestics & properties by a barrier made between them.

Whats wrong with the verse ?

Question,

The two body of water do not transfer salt from one to another in absolute sense or the sault is transfered but very very slowly and little so the overall property does not change. Which one is it?

And if someone swims from one body to the other, does not cause some salt to be transfered?

 

[Agnostic75]

Message to FearGod: Do you accept common descent?

 

[BruceDLimber]

The sweat sea, that symbolizes the word of God.

Uh, please try to edit this and correct your spelling!


Bruce

 

[FearGod]

Message to FearGod: Do you accept common descent?

Yes i accept it but similar to the common factors between Radio & Tv.

 

[challupa]

You're the one who adviced me to check it myself and not the professor.

Never bad advice to say 'check it for yourself' instead of just believing what someone else says. Until you 'know', it's just a belief.

 

[FearGod]

Never bad advice to say 'check it for yourself' instead of just believing what someone else says. Until you 'know', it's just a belief.

of course we should check it ourselves,if you don't believe that man visited the moon,then we have to try it ourselves,but yes i know visiting a river or lake wouldn't cost that much. :areyoucra

 

[challupa]

of course we should check it ourselves,if you don't believe that man visited the moon,then we have to try it ourselves,but yes i know visiting a river or lake wouldn't cost that much. :areyoucra

No it wouldn't cost that much. It is something that you can verify for yourself. Good advice. I understand visiting the moon does present a bigger problem. But I sense a reluctance in you to feel it is necessary to verify what we can.

 

[danieldemol]

Good note which makes me to think that there is a relation between the freshwater springs with corals & pearls.

Submarine springs reveal how coral reefs respond to ocean acidification

Ocean acidification due to rising carbon dioxide levels will reduce the density of coral skeletons, making coral reefs more vulnerable to disruption and erosion, according to a new study of corals growing where submarine springs naturally lower the pH of seawater.

Thank you for posting authentically scientific articles, please ponder these extracts from your link;

"Paytan's team studied coral reefs along the Caribbean coastline of Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula where submarine springs lower the pH of the surrounding seawater"

"Ocean acidification lowers the concentration of carbonate ions in seawater"

Basically similarly to how acidification lowers concentration of carbonate ions in sea water, fresh water mixing with and diluting sea water also lowers concentration of carbonate ions, inhibiting coral development in surrounding sea water.

 

[FearGod]

Thank you for posting authentically scientific articles, please ponder these extracts from your link;

"Paytan's team studied coral reefs along the Caribbean coastline of Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula where submarine springs lower the pH of the surrounding seawater"

"Ocean acidification lowers the concentration of carbonate ions in seawater"

Basically similarly to how acidification lowers concentration of carbonate ions in sea water, fresh water mixing with and diluting sea water also lowers concentration of carbonate ions, inhibiting coral development in surrounding sea water.

But still the freshwater in deep of ocean not mixed with the salt water above it and the freshwater keep the environment suitable in fixing the salinity in constant value.

Thats the creator message which says i have planned for it and god said in his book,still not believing on me.

 

[Agnostic75]

Yes I accept it but similar to the common factors between Radio & Tv.

Micahel Behe, Ph.D., biochemistry, says:

"For example, both humans and chimps have a broken copy of a gene that in other mammals helps make vitamin C. ... It's hard to imagine how there could be stronger evidence for common ancestry of chimps and humans. ... Despite some remaining puzzles, there’s no reason to doubt that Darwin had this point right, that all creatures on earth are biological relatives.” The Edge of Evolution, pp 71–2.

Do you agree with Behe?

 

[FearGod]

Micahel Behe, Ph.D., biochemistry, says:

"For example, both humans and chimps have a broken copy of a gene that in other mammals helps make vitamin C. ... It's hard to imagine how there could be stronger evidence for common ancestry of chimps and humans. ... Despite some remaining puzzles, there’s no reason to doubt that Darwin had this point right, that all creatures on earth are biological relatives.” The Edge of Evolution, pp 71–2.

Do you agree with Behe?

Yes,but what i believe is that we are a separated invention or an advanced invention compared to monkeys.

 

[challupa]

Yes,but what i believe is that we are a separated invention or an advanced invention compared to monkeys.

Invention? Something invented us?

 

[Agnostic75]

Yes,but what i believe is that we are a separated invention or an advanced invention compared to monkeys.

But at another forum, you are questioning naturalists about how evolution gave humans a sense of taste for foods. Why did you do that since you believe that God created life on earth over millions of years, including a sense of taste for humans, and for animals?

Whether you know it or not, you are questioning naturalism, not evolution since millions of theists accept evolution.

 

[FearGod]

But at another forum, you are questioning naturalists about how evolution gave humans a sense of taste for foods. Why did you do that since you believe that God created life on earth over millions of years, including a sense of taste for humans, and for animals?

Whether you know it or not, you are questioning naturalism, not evolution since millions of theists accept evolution.

a planned evolution is different than random mutations & natural selection.

 

[InvestigateTruth]

Question,

Do not The two body of water transfer salt from one to another in absolute sense or the salt is transferred but very very slowly and little so the overall property does not change. Which one is it?

And if someone swims from one body to the other, does not cause some salt to be transferred?

FearGod, You did not reply to my questions. Why is that?

 

[Ouroboros]

Salt water and non-salted water blends.

It's done all the time in the kitchen while cooking.

 

[FearGod]

FearGod, You did not reply to my questions. Why is that?

What i know that both are fixed,freshwater never become salt and the salt water never become fresh and both do interact.

 

[Enai de a lukal]

Micahel Behe, Ph.D., biochemistry, says:

"For example, both humans and chimps have a broken copy of a gene that in other mammals helps make vitamin C. ... It's hard to imagine how there could be stronger evidence for common ancestry of chimps and humans. ... Despite some remaining puzzles, there’s no reason to doubt that Darwin had this point right, that all creatures on earth are biological relatives.” The Edge of Evolution, pp 71–2.

Do you agree with Behe?

This is doubly damning, since Behe is an ID'er and is infamous for his now refuted notion of "irreducibly complex" biological structures... If even other creationists don't agree with you, that's a baaaad sign!