Right move?

[David1967]

As I predicted in another thread, the President has signed an order stopping family separation of illegal immigrants. To some ,Trump can do no wrong. To others, he can do no right. This, I think is the right thing to do.

In reversal, Trump signs order stopping family separation

 

[metis]

As I predicted in another thread, the President has signed an order stopping family separation of illegal immigrants. To some ,Trump can do no wrong. To others, he can do no right. This, I think is the right thing to do.

Amen!

 

[Polymath257]

It's a partially right move after a horribly wrong move.

I notice he (and the republicans in Congress) was more concerned about what things 'looked like' and 'felt' than the reality.

 

[David1967]

It's a partially right move after a horribly wrong move.

I notice he (and the republicans in Congress) was more concerned about what things 'looked like' and 'felt' than the reality.

The outcome of a good thing is still good regardless of perceived motive.

 

[Vee]

It's a partially right move after a horribly wrong move.

I notice he (and the republicans in Congress) was more concerned about what things 'looked like' and 'felt' than the reality.

And that's the definition of politics my friend.

 

[PureX]

This was yet another disastrous policy from the troubled mind of Donald Trump that blew up in his face, and splattered crap all over the republicans that keep supporting him. Sticking his finger in the hole in the dyke that he just caused is not going to be viewed as an especially positive act, since it was him that caused the hole in the first place.

 

[metis]

It's a partially right move after a horribly wrong move.

I notice he (and the republicans in Congress) was more concerned about what things 'looked like' and 'felt' than the reality.

I agree as Congress didn't do even squat prior until the pictures and cries went public. They simply have no cajones nor .

[notice I didn't use a symbol for the former]

 

[Sunstone]

I think it's fair to credit Trump with having corrected his mistake here. Furthermore, I do not think it would be fair to argue that any credit should be subtracted from what is owed to him merely because he was responding to huge political pressure to reverse himself. That would assume that Trump should be held to a much higher standard than we would normally hold any politician, especially the ones we ourselves liked.

 

[metis]

I think it's fair to credit Trump with having corrected his mistake here. Furthermore, I do not think it would be fair to argue that any credit should be subtracted from what is owed to him merely because he was responding to huge political pressure to reverse himself. That would assume that Trump should be held to a much higher standard than we would normally hold any politician, especially the ones we ourselves liked.

Sorry, but I simply cannot give him that much credit because it appears that his decision was based on politics, not morals.

 

[fantome profane]

Of course this is the right thing to do.

Sorry that I am not going to give him much praise for ending a tragedy that he started. It is like a firefighter starting a fire so he can run in and be a hero putting it out. A lot of children got burned on this one.

 

[Revoltingest]

The outcome of a good thing is still good regardless of perceived motive.

The original move might've been to discourage illegal immigration.
Had it worked, separation numbers could've been smaller than
under Obama. But failed policies are best abandoned/modified.

 

[Father Heathen]

It's like praising a kid after he was shamed into clumsily gluing a vase back together after he deliberately broke it.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

As I predicted in another thread, the President has signed an order stopping family separation of illegal immigrants. To some ,Trump can do no wrong. To others, he can do no right. This, I think is the right thing to do.

In reversal, Trump signs order stopping family separation

Good.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

It's like praising a kid after he was shamed into clumsily gluing a vase back together after he deliberately broke it.

In fairness, wasn't this Sessions' cluster? I mean, we know Trump and Sessions aren't currently on speaking terms, is it possible this one isn't his fault?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Sorry, but I simply cannot give him that much credit because it appears that his decision was based on politics, not morals.

Um... that's what politicians do.

 

[Lyndon]

It was Trumps idea to separate the families, it was not Trump's idea to keep them together, why the heck should he get credit for that??? Beats me!!

 

[Revoltingest]

It's like praising a kid after he was shamed into clumsily gluing a vase back together after he deliberately broke it.

That seems to be avoiding credit where credit is due.
I'd have credited Clinton if he ditched don't-ask-don't-tell, or if he repealed 3-strikes-&-you're-out.
I credited Obama for not invading Iran, despite his continuing the other wars.
Fixing mistakes is a positive thing....not Nobel Prizeworthy, but still positive.

 

[David1967]

It was Trumps idea to separate the families, it was not Trump's idea to keep them together, why the heck should he get credit for that??? Beats me!!

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[Quetzal]

As I predicted in another thread, the President has signed an order stopping family separation of illegal immigrants. To some ,Trump can do no wrong. To others, he can do no right. This, I think is the right thing to do.

In reversal, Trump signs order stopping family separation

I am of two camps. Yay it is over. But the only reason it is over is because of political pressure, not because Trump genuinely doesn't believe in what he was doing. (Last part is speculation, of course.)

 

[Sunstone]

Sorry, but I simply cannot give him that much credit because it appears that his decision was based on politics, not morals.

While I would agree Trump no doubt based his decision on politics rather than morals, I think most politicians usually base their decisions more on politics than on morals. Maybe Trump more than others, but how much more than others?