Right move?

[fantome profane]

Btw, this is not over. They are still maintaining a zero tolerance policy. But now they plan to keep the families together. Which I do think is good. But there will still be huge numbers of people being arrested and held. They are not prepared for the huge and constant influx of prisoners. Instead of child internment camps they are going to have family internment camps. This is not over!

And the children already taken will not be immediately returned to their families. This executive order provides no measures for the prompt return of these children. Some of them may never see their parents again. This is not over!

 

[Riders]

Its probably an improvement over the other situation which is good. But I don't think Trump had a choice. His own daughter spoke up to him and told him to do something, can't have the presidents daughter speaking out against the President. I heard every Republican a lot of then spoke out against him which is good but made him look really bad.

 

[1137]

Congratulations left, children will now be incarcerated and nothing about immigrationi was changed. What a great, compassionate victory for you all.

 

[suncowiam]

Congratulations left, children will now be incarcerated and nothing about immigrationi was changed. What a great, compassionate victory for you all.

Again with the generalizations.

The left werent the only ones to disapprove.

Religious groups, former and currently first ladies, former attorney generals, businesses, doctors, pediatricians, and many conservatives.

Yet you choose to single out the left.

Your lens are as tinted as it gets.

Are you saying the only way to stop illegal immigration is to separate children from their parents? Are you suggesting there is absolutely no other solution?

 

[idav]

Congratulations left, children will now be incarcerated and nothing about immigrationi was changed. What a great, compassionate victory for you all.

Trump should have reversed more of his horrid policies. Nobody wants children incarcerated, he’s a freaking a-hole. That should have been a compassionate move by Trump but what should we expect, just incarcerate them forever is what his plan is. Trump's order could hold families together indefinitely. But where will they stay?

Great he stopped splitting up families but the reasons are his zero tolerance policies. He’s bandaiding the actual bad policy which isn’t much of a fiz but hopefully less traumatic for the kids. On top of it all he wants to fight the courts 20 day rule on children. This isn’t much of a win, Trump made damn sure of that.

 

[sayak83]

As I predicted in another thread, the President has signed an order stopping family separation of illegal immigrants. To some ,Trump can do no wrong. To others, he can do no right. This, I think is the right thing to do.

In reversal, Trump signs order stopping family separation

I agree. I myself proposed that they create housing facilities at the border areas to keep migrants and asylum seeker families till their cases are processed in a fast track court system. Something like refugee camps that exist in many parts of the world.Hope this order eventually leads to some thing of that nature.

 

[sayak83]

Congratulations left, children will now be incarcerated and nothing about immigrationi was changed. What a great, compassionate victory for you all.

Thanks. It's a great victory indeed. You can sulk away, while we do the hard work.

 

[1137]

Thanks. It's a great victory indeed. You can sulk away, while we do the hard work.

Haha "hard work," I've been a field social worker far longer than it's been cool to care about children and families because it let's us bash Trump. And guess what, when Trump is gone and a blind eye is turned to the whole issue as it was before, I'll probably still be there serving the best interests of children and families. Spoiler alert: those best interest will never include children sitting in prison, sorry .

 

[Quetzal]

Important reminder: you do not thank the kidnapper when they release the hostage. For that reason, Trump deserves zero praise. Further, if any international human rights organizations want to come take a peek, I would welcome that with open arms. Screw that guy, screw his administration, and screw the people who continue to follow it.

 

[1137]

Important reminder: you do not thank the kidnapper when they release the hostage. For that reason, Trump deserves zero praise. Further, if any international human rights organizations want to come take a peek, I would welcome that with open arms. Screw that guy, screw his administration, and screw the people who continue to follow it.

Congratulation on your imprisoned, innocent children! Like seriously guys, I investigated those in the foster system who further abused children. Most of those cases would probably include violations of human rights imo, especially with kids. But rarely did any of you, if ever, say a damn thing. Actually you STILL don't care, you only care about children of illegal immigrants for some reason. It's ****ed.

 

[ecco]

This isn’t much of a win, Trump made damn sure of that.

It is big win. It is the first time in my recollection that Trump has ever backed down. It is the first time that Republicans (at least some of them) stood up to Him and His policies.

 

[David1967]

Important reminder: you do not thank the kidnapper when they release the hostage. For that reason, Trump deserves zero praise. Further, if any international human rights organizations want to come take a peek, I would welcome that with open arms. Screw that guy, screw his administration, and screw the people who continue to follow it.

To be a kidnapper, someone would have had to go there and bring them here against their will. If I went to say ,Mexico illegally and was put in jail for it, that would not be kidnapping.

 

[Riders]

It is big win. It is the first time in my recollection that Trump has ever backed down. It is the first time that Republicans (at least some of them) stood up to Him and His policies.

Yes I agree Republicans standing up to him HOORAY I almost started clapping my hands and even his own daughter got upset with him whew!

 

[David1967]

It seems that Trump is damned if he does and damned if he don't. If he did nothing, he's a bad guy. If he does what the other side says he should, he's still a bad guy because he may not have or probably didn't mean it. I could never be a politician.

 

[idav]

It is big win. It is the first time in my recollection that Trump has ever backed down. It is the first time that Republicans (at least some of them) stood up to Him and His policies.

Maybe but he didn’t reverse his policies, Trump has decided to imprison families indefinitely buiding on his inhumane zero tolerance policy. He has been sending these parents to federal prison but I don’t think he can fit all these families in prisons so there is that.

 

[idav]

Spoiler alert: those best interest will never include children sitting in prison, sorry .

Apparently Trump thinks so he is a tyrant.

 

[1137]

Apparently Trump thinks so he is a tyrant.

Yeah after most of the country begged and pleaded him to make that decision. Haha I was wondering how this would be spun, "doing what we asked = tyranny" is an interesting spin.

 

[idav]

Yeah after most of the country begged and pleaded him to make that decision. Haha I was wondering how this would be spun, "doing what we asked = tyranny" is an interesting spin.

From your posts you agree putting kids in prison a bad thing, what is the spin. He didn’t reverse his policy, he patched up the most inhumane part to just do something else inhumane called “indefinite incarceration for migrant families”. Forgive me if I am less than impressed by Trumps “compassion”.

 

[LuisDantas]

The outcome of a good thing is still good regardless of perceived motive.

It seems that Trump is damned if he does and damned if he don't. If he did nothing, he's a bad guy. If he does what the other side says he should, he's still a bad guy because he may not have or probably didn't mean it. I could never be a politician.

Let's not forget that it is still only an attempt at reparation of a disastrous, very harmful move that he presented shortly before with a lot of bravado and shameful lying, though.

He is a showman, even more than he is a con man. He makes promises with no thought related to a responsibility to fulfill them and deal with the consequences. And there are, unfortunately, lots of people who are just as irresponsible as him and somehow see fit to support him.

It should come as no surprise, and even less as unfairness, that he is taken to task for his bumbling, bravading ways.

 

[LuisDantas]

Congratulations left, children will now be incarcerated and nothing about immigrationi was changed. What a great, compassionate victory for you all.

Why are you blaming the left for Trump's lack of basic common sense?