Riley Gaines attacked by "transgender terrorists".

[Nakosis]

DISCLAIMER: MTG's words, not mine as it applies to title.

Riley Gaines says she was attacked by trans activist students at SFSU

Riley Gaines is a former college swimmer who competed against Lia Thomas and has criticized the unfairness of including transgender athletes in women's sports.

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1644382739087384579

Trans people , at least in the news, are getting pretty violent lately. First a shooting , now assaulting athletes.

Whatever the reason, this crazy out of control behavior is not acceptable.

I don't expect life to be fair. Though most folks have some crazy idea that it ought to be.
Problem is most people have their own idea of what fair is along with an idea that it ought to be imposed on everyone else.

Whatever is decided is not going to be fair to someone so someone is going to be imposed upon. I can't conjure up much sympathy as this is what life is. Best thing a person can do is figure out a way around the obstacle or a means to benefit from it.

 

[Estro Felino]

I don't expect life to be fair. Though most folks have some crazy idea that it ought to be.
Problem is most people have their own idea of what fair is along with an idea that it ought to be imposed on everyone else.

Whatever is decided is not going to be fair to someone so someone is going to be imposed upon. I can't conjure up much sympathy as this is what life is. Best thing a person can do is figure out a way around the obstacle or a means to benefit from it.

I think is that the degeneration of the hyper-capitalistic model applied to the US.
It's all about winners vs losers. Competition. Competing instead of cooperating.
So that is why so many people love to impose their vision on others, because all that matters is winning.

What about coexisting? So many visions coexisting so we are all winners and nobody loses.
Taking life not that seriously. Simplify your own lives.

 

[Father Heathen]

Oh, it's that bs again.

Nope, that's accurate history.

 

[Father Heathen]

You think stuff like this shouldn't be reported?

It should, albeit objectively and accurately, not sensationalized and spun into political propaganda.

 

[Nakosis]

I think is that the degeneration of the hyper-capitalistic model applied to the US.
It's all about winners vs losers. Competition. Competing instead of cooperating.
So that is why so many people love to impose their vision on others, because all that matters is winning.

What about coexisting? So many visions coexisting so we are all winners and nobody loses.
Taking life not that seriously. Simplify your own lives.

In my mind, it is not capitalism, it is human nature. Perhaps capitalism is just a reflection of that.

If human nature changes then I suppose that will solve some problems and create others.
Until then, we are stuck with who we are.

 

[Estro Felino]

In my mind, it is not capitalism, it is human nature. Perhaps capitalism is just a reflection of that.

If human nature changes then I suppose that will solve some problems and create others.
Until then, we are stuck with who we are.

It's exactly as you said. It's the human nature that also contributed to hyper-competition. I am not against Capitalism, which diversifies society. I am against the exasperation of it.

As for this case, a woman expressed her opinion in the auditorium of an university. The reaction was absolutely terrifying. I have never seen something like that, in my country.
I think Americans should be more ironical. Laugh more about the situations. Chill out.
We are not speaking of tragedies like the war. We are speaking of society.

 

[Stevicus]

In my mind, it is not capitalism, it is human nature. Perhaps capitalism is just a reflection of that.

If human nature changes then I suppose that will solve some problems and create others.
Until then, we are stuck with who we are.

The main trouble I see with using "human nature" as a justification for capitalism is that it seems to rely too heavily on concepts of natural law, which itself is problematic in a modern society which supposedly considers itself "enlightened" and either above or insulated from the forces of nature. You can't have it both ways indefinitely. The problem I've observed here in America is that far too many people want to eat their cake and have it, too.

Under the laws of nature, there is no such thing as human rights. There is no such thing as property rights either. Yet humans accept these things, in defiance of their own "human nature." This tells me that human nature can be changed, but the fact that some aspects of human nature are addressed, while others are not, is a reflection of politics and philosophy, not "nature" as such.

 

[Nakosis]

The main trouble I see with using "human nature" as a justification for capitalism is that it seems to rely too heavily on concepts of natural law, which itself is problematic in a modern society which supposedly considers itself "enlightened" and either above or insulated from the forces of nature. You can't have it both ways indefinitely. The problem I've observed here in America is that far too many people want to eat their cake and have it, too.

Under the laws of nature, there is no such thing as human rights. There is no such thing as property rights either. Yet humans accept these things, in defiance of their own "human nature." This tells me that human nature can be changed, but the fact that some aspects of human nature are addressed, while others are not, is a reflection of politics and philosophy, not "nature" as such.

Not using it for justification, just saying it is a reflection of it.
Of course if our nature changes then so will the reflection.

 

[Nakosis]

It's exactly as you said. It's the human nature that also contributed to hyper-competition. I am not against Capitalism, which diversifies society. I am against the exasperation of it.

As for this case, a woman expressed her opinion in the auditorium of an university. The reaction was absolutely terrifying. I have never seen something like that, in my country.
I think Americans should be more ironical. Laugh more about the situations. Chill out.
We are not speaking of tragedies like the war. We are speaking of society.

Your country obviously needs more diversity.
Then you too can enjoy its fruits.

 

[Stevicus]

Not using it for justification, just saying it is a reflection of it.
Of course if our nature changes then so will the reflection.

Many capitalists often use it as a justification, especially when it comes to explaining why a few people are so wealthy while most people are not.

Human nature may not actually be "changed" at its core, but we can still restrain and modify it. If we couldn't do that, humans would never have developed past the Stone Age.

 

[Revoltingest]

I think is that the degeneration of the hyper-capitalistic model applied to the US.
It's all about winners vs losers. Competition. Competing instead of cooperating.

In what country do swimmers in a race cooperate instead of compete
with each other? Where do athletes in general not strive to win?
You should watch those socialists compete, eg, Cuban boxers,
Soviet weightlifters, East German swimmers. Talk about hyper!

 

[Estro Felino]

In what country do swimmers in a race cooperate instead of compete
with each other? Where do athletes in general not strive to win?
You should watch those socialists compete, eg, Cuban boxers,
Soviet weightlifters, East German swimmers. Talk about hyper!

I was referring to the crowd who attacked R. Gaines just because she said something they disagree with.
That's wanting to impose their own will on others.

 

[Revoltingest]

I was referring to the crowd who attacked R. Gaines just because she said something they disagree with.
That's wanting to impose their own will on others.

That doesn't match the post I responded to....
"I think is that the degeneration of the hyper-capitalistic model applied to the US.
It's all about winners vs losers. Competition. Competing instead of cooperating."

 

[Estro Felino]

That doesn't match the post I responded to....
"I think is that the degeneration of the hyper-capitalistic model applied to the US.
It's all about winners vs losers. Competition. Competing instead of cooperating."

Yes, it does.
Because in the US people want to win debates.
It's not about truth. It's about winning.

 

[Nakosis]

Many capitalists often use it as a justification, especially when it comes to explaining why a few people are so wealthy while most people are not.

Human nature may not actually be "changed" at its core, but we can still restrain and modify it. If we couldn't do that, humans would never have developed past the Stone Age.

If I find anyone doing that, I'm be sure to let them know you are on to them.
Otherwise, it seems we are in agreement about human nature.

 

[Nakosis]

That doesn't match the post I responded to....
"I think is that the degeneration of the hyper-capitalistic model applied to the US.
It's all about winners vs losers. Competition. Competing instead of cooperating."

I suspect it is the fundamental faith that all socialists have in the capitalist narrative created by Marx.
An ultimate truth that becomes the basis of any conversation one has with a socialist.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Nope, that's accurate history.

By their standard I'm still a very upstanding, deeply devouted Christian who's eager to spread the Gospels.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yes, it does.
Because in the US people want to win debates.
It's not about truth. It's about winning.

Debates, capitalism, sports...you're mixing so
many topics that it makes no sense to me.

 

[Revoltingest]

I suspect it is the fundamental faith that all socialists have in the capitalist narrative created by Marx.
An ultimate truth that becomes the basis of any conversation one has with a socialist.

Christians have Jesus, Muslims have
Muhammed, & socialists have Marx.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Christians have Jesus, Muslims have
Muhammed, & socialists have Marx.

Jesus was more socialist and more of an ant colony commy than Marx. Christians just like to ignore how Jesus said those who follow him are to sell everything they own, give the money to the poor and live off of whatever handouts people will give them. They're so against that they'll treat the new pastor like garbage if he presents himself as homeless, they've even called the cops on their messiah as a statue of him "sleeps" on a park bench.