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Rishi Sunak

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Diex Aie
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Premium Member
The NHS has seen better days, it's true.

I just can't understand why it's so bad now, after 13 years of being chronically mismanaged by people ideologically opposed to public services, who've been taking millions of pounds from private healthcare insurers and providers for decades. A real mystery.
Its mismanagement comes from people within the service. I don't know why Brits are so desperate to blame anything except the NHS for why the NHS is ****. It's because it has too much administration. I work with the NHS as a domestic assistant and I am treated like crap by half the people who work there, the NHS staff. They always find something to complain about the work I've done and they did it to the poor girl who worked in that area before me, which is the reason she transferred to another department. If anything goes wrong they blame the people below them, as I've experienced first hand. Nobody takes any responsibility.

So **** them.
 
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Yerda

Veteran Member
Its mismanagement comes from people within the service. I don't know why Brits are so desperate to blame anything except the NHS for why the NHS is ****. It's because it has too much administration. I work with the NHS as a domestic assistant and I am treated like crap by half the people who work there, the NHS staff. They lie about the work I've done and gaslight me and they did it to the poor girl who worked in that area before me, which is the reason she transferred to another department. If anything goes wrong they blame the people below them, as I've experienced first hand. Nobody takes any responsibility.

So **** them.
Ok, first then, working in any environment where you aren't treated fairly and with dignity is a form of misery I wouldn't wish on anyone. Please, get yourself out of there.

Each NHS trust is a large service provider that does require considerable administration. Nothing about switching to a private or mixed system would change that. If you've ever worked for a large corporation you'll have seen that entities of a certain size require many layer of middle management, HR and other administrative roles.

The "too much administration" line is a glaringly obvious red herring. I can understand why a conservative might fall for this nonsense, but every one else can draw a clear line from the writings of tories on how to destroy effective public services, to the large donations from private health providers and insurers to a decade and a half of legislation ****ing our health care. We've had every major medical association telling us exactly what was happening from 2010 onward. Now that exactly what they have said was going to happen is happening we're going to blame it "administration"?
 

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
The NHS has seen better days, it's true.

I just can't understand why it's so bad now, after 13 years of being chronically mismanaged by people ideologically opposed to public services, who've been taking millions of pounds from private healthcare insurers and providers for decades. A real mystery.
It shall remain a mystery forever. Got to be a top priority for the Labour goverment (yes, I'm counting my chickens).
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
It shall remain a mystery forever. Got to be a top priority for the Labour goverment (yes, I'm counting my chickens).
If we take a look at the people Wes Streeting is in cahoots with, I'm going to guess that they just continue what the tories are doing.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
In January 2022 and April 2023, Streeting accepted donations of £15,000 from hedge fund boss John Armitage for ‘staffing costs’ in his office. Armitage’s interests include a stake, reportedly worth in excess of $500 million, in US private health insurance giant UnitedHealth, America’s largest health insurer.

But this is far from Streeting’s only link to private healthcare interests. Campaign group EveryDoctor also raised questions over donations from Peter Hearn, a majority shareholder in a recruitment agency which works with private healthcare companies, and his affiliated company MPM Connect Ltd. One of these donations topped £80,000, the group said, while another ran close to £50,000.

 

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
I personally often choose to be homeless. It is my choice.
Do you mean you choose to use hostels? Care to share?

I used to chat with a homeless guy in town and eventually he managed to get himself (and his dog) a flat. I saw him a few weeks later back on the streets and he'd given the flat up - said he couldn't cope with the hassle. I don't know if some more support was needed or what, but it seemed an odd decision to me...?
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
Do you mean you choose to use hostels? Care to share?

I used to chat with a homeless guy in town and eventually he managed to get himself (and his dog) a flat. I saw him a few weeks later back on the streets and he'd given the flat up - said he couldn't cope with the hassle. I don't know if some more support was needed or what, but it seemed an odd decision to me...?
I was being sarcastic, man. Just not very good at it.#

Also, good God no, I'm a housecat. I'm cold just thinking about people living in tents.

Calling homelessness a "lifestyle choice" is risible nonsense and in a sensible country Suella Braverman would be soundly ridiculed every time she made a public appearance. It is nuts that UK politics is about 90% people pretending to either not believe something obvious or pretending not to understand something they understand completely.
 

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
I was being sarcastic, man. Just not very good at it.#

Also, good God no, I'm a housecat. I'm cold just thinking about people living in tents.

Calling homelessness a "lifestyle choice" is risible nonsense and in a sensible country Suella Braverman would be soundly ridiculed every time she made a public appearance. It is nuts that UK politics is about 90% people pretending to either not believe something obvious or pretending not to understand something they understand completely.
I think he makes a good point about the BBC's use and non-use of the term "far right."
 

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
- If Rish! makes a speech and no one is there to hear it, has he made a speech? | John Crace

"The resets, relaunches – call them what you like – come thick and fast these days. Scarcely a week goes by without the government making some new announcement. Usually one that demands total amnesia of anything that might have been announced previously. Because it’s odds on to be contradictory. But every day is now a potential year zero. A day when time can start again. When Rishi Sunak can be adored as he deserves to be."
 

JIMMY12345

Active Member
What are your thoughts on his tenure so far?
A ok. He seems genuinely believe in the NHS etc. Keir Starmer the Labour candidate and Mr Sunak are both gentleman and highly educated.They both keep low profiles.They both just get on silently with the job with minimal fuss and publicity.Mr Sunak has so much money he is one of the few honest politicians.
All the parties are run by money men who have no real interest in labour.

That said I think Trump for USA and Starmer for UK in 2024.

There will be no difference as jobs have exited due to to cheap labour abroad.However people have short memories and will vote for change.Politicians seeking to be elected .Only have to promise to deliver.They do not have to actually deliver once safely in power.
People are rattled by the cost of living increase and will vote for change.Even if they know in their hearts nothing will change for the majority.

Mr Sunak should enjoy his time on the golf course.He has done his bit.Now his time to enjoy life and family.
 

JIMMY12345

Active Member
What are your thoughts on his tenure so far?
He has just condemned the UK Scandal.He needs to go further and gee
What are your thoughts on his tenure so far?
He has just said how bad the UK Post office scandal is.He needs to give more resources to the Metropolitan Police and Fraud investigation teams.Mr Kier Starmer (Labour) was former Director of Public Prosecutions and a very good lawyer and will likely be next PM.However he is quiet on this topic unlike Mr Sunak (Conservative).
 

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
I can't disagree. Maybe it was the last indulgence of a middle-rank nation thinking it still ruled the world. Both Britain and France have had an inflated idea of their own importance, as a result of the empires they relatively recently disbanded. The British are finding out no one listens to them and no one actually cares that much about doing business with them. It will perhaps prove salutary.

But an expensive way to learn!
The latest benefit of brexit - exacerbation of the crisis in pharmacies obtaining meds.

- Drug shortages, now normal in UK, made worse by Brexit, report warns

One of the named shortages is anti-epileptic drugs, which I need to take. But on the plus side we've got our ******* country back eh Nige?
 
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JIMMY12345

Active Member
It's rather interesting that he finds himself being attacked by Ford:

Ford is leading a furious business backlash against Rishi Sunak’s plans to water down some of Britain’s key climate pledges – including a delay to the 2030 ban on new petrol and diesel car sales.​
The car giant said any relaxation of the 2030 target would undermine the government’s “ambition, commitment and consistency” – all of which are key to its manufacturing plans.​
The ban on new petrol and diesel car sales was announced by Boris Johnson in November 2020, and as recently as July the government described the date as “immovable”.​
And Ford’s UK chair Lisa Brankin said the auto industry is “investing to meet that challenge”. She cited a £40bn commitment to electrifying its cars, with a range of nine electric vehicles to launch by 2025.​
Ms Brankin said the range is supported by £430m of investment in Ford’s UK facilities, with further funding planned based on the 2030 target. She said it was “vital catalyst to accelerate Ford into a cleaner future”.​
The auto chief said business “needs three things from the UK government: ambition, commitment and consistency. A relaxation of 2030 would undermine all three”. [source]

CNN reports ...

Britain will delay a series of key climate targets, its beleaguered Prime Minister Rishi Sunak is set to announce Wednesday, intensifying an assault on green policies that has been condemned by his predecessor Boris Johnson, a number of his own lawmakers, businesses and environmental experts.​
Sunak is expected to say in a hastily organized press conference he will push back a ban on selling new petrol and diesel cars from 2030 to 2035, slow down plans to phase out gas boilers, and reject calls to regulate efficiency for homeowners.​
It marks a sharp turn away from a long-standing political consensus on the climate, announced just two years after the UK hosted the crucial COP26 climate conference in Glasgow, seriously undermines efforts to portray Britain as a leader in the fight against the climate crisis.​
The move instead deepens a controversial electoral strategy by Sunak to confront and reject emissions-cutting policies, as he scrambles to reverse dismal opinion polling ahead of a vote that is anticipated next year. [source]
Mr Sunak is toast politically.However he is the best man wrong time.He is making good progress on his pledges.He cannot undo the blunders of past Conservative PM's in the last 14 years (less 18 months)
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Mr Sunak is toast politically.However he is the best man wrong time.He is making good progress on his pledges.He cannot undo the blunders of past Conservative PM's in the last 14 years (less 18 months)


Apart from reducing inflation, which has fallen in accordance with BoE predictions, which pledges is he making progress on?
 
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