Robert Spencer on the ignorance of the leftists regarding Islam

[Audie]

Do you understand ANY of those verses in context... or is that Spencer cut and paste?

"Context" is the fav word for fundies to use when
fluffing up their inerrant resdin' of scrip and dismissing
from consideration what anyone else sees in the
"Holy" book.

 

[Brickjectivity]

After watching most of the video (skipped in almost halfway) I think that I really liked his tie shirt suit combination and thought some of his points were good. I didn't see him as a reply to my post.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

This dude is a self identified islamaphobe and literally runs the website jihadwatch.org (inspired by judas.watch).


Guess y'all aren't even hiding your sympathy with vile racists anymore.

Oh, wow. I knew that Spencer is a bigot and loon like Pam Geller and that Bridgette Gabriel lunatic (with her scary crazy eyes) but didn't know about that Judas site.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

The way "Islam" is conceptualized and used by reactionary figureheads, "Islam" is a placeholder which serves the exact same role as race.

Islamophobia (which is not the same as merely criticizing Islam) is very similar to virulent anti-Semitism with its conspiracies, paranoia, dehumanizing and demonizing of Muslims.

 

[Audie]

The way "Islam" is conceptualized and used by reactionary figureheads, "Islam" is a placeholder which serves the exact same role as race.

So you say.

 

[Notanumber]

Islamophobia (which is not the same as merely criticizing Islam) is very similar to virulent anti-Semitism with its conspiracies, paranoia, dehumanizing and demonizing of Muslims.

That is what Islamists would like it to be seen as.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Exactly. My beliefs are fundamentally antagonistic with basic assumptions of pretty much all of the abrahamic beliefs.

Islamaphobia=/=anti-theism directed towards Islam

Right. There's many things I do not like about the Abrahamic religions, hence why I'm not a part of any of them. But I'm often in the position of having to defend Islam and Muslims since there is so much lies and misinformation about those things, and not many Muslims on here to defend themselves. It's very unfair that they are so hammered, and usually by Christian hypocrites (and a few hateful right-wing Zionist Jews on here). If you're going to criticize, base the criticism on reality. It's just as offensive if someone based their criticism of Judaism off of the idea that Jewish people kill Christian children to use their blood in recipes, which was a widespread belief. Such rhetoric and beliefs are precursors to attempts at genocide and other ethnic violence. They must be taken very seriously.

 

[Audie]

Exactly. My beliefs are fundamentally antagonistic with basic assumptions of pretty much all of the abrahamic beliefs.

Islamaphobia=/=anti-theism directed towards Islam

"Phobia" refers to extreme, irrational fear.

Not extreme, not fear, not irrational.

It is a politically loaded term intended to
make the person who is suspicious of,
hostile toward "islam"- for their long history
of sickening atrocities- into one with a mental
disorder.

Islamodislikea, islamodisgustia
maybe islamoutterlyrepulsedbyia,
but phobia?

Nothing at all irrational about distrust
of such a "religion of peace".

 

[Notanumber]

If that is true, they are lucky that it also happens to be correct.

Our biggest problem is that the Left thinks it is correct.

 

[Notanumber]

Our biggest problems which relate to Islam are not caused by Muslims at all. Weirdo right-wingers have just bought into really zeroing in on social minorities, rather than focusing on actual issues in society.

Such as a considerable amount of the right calling for the only Muslim senator to be deported. Such as his racist remarks to the 4 senators who are women of colour.

Those four senators are anti-American.

 

[Audie]

It would be a major mistake to think that homophobes are merely "afraid" of gay men and lesbian women. -Many are, but many more are hateful, misinformed or bigoted towards them.

Pulling up the dictionary definition of a phobia has a long history on this forum in trying to claim that X person isn't homophobic. Same poor defense being used here.

Distrust of Islam did not spring from fevered imagination
of bigots. It was well earned, a thousand times over.

Islam, not "lgbt". Religious exttemists, not sexual orientation.

Changing the subject is an exceptionally poor defense,
as too is changing the meaning of words to suit the argument.

Purveyors of ideological cant are especially fond of denying
the obvious and defining what they will as they will.

See "1984'; "war is peace" "freedom is slavery"

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Ah now islam is a race.

Come on.

We all know that anti-Islamic sentiment includes a racist component as much as it includes a religious component. It isn't blonde haired blue eyed Muslims the people freaking out about Muslims are freaking out about, is it? Don't be obtuse.

 

[Audie]

Our biggest problems which relate to Islam are not caused by Muslims at all. Weirdo right-wingers have just bought into really zeroing in on social minorities, rather than focusing on actual issues in society.

Such as a considerable amount of the right calling for the only Muslim senator to be deported.

War is peace, freedom is slavery, "right wingers" burn people alive
in cages, enslave women and perped 911.

 

[Shad]

Islamophobia (which is not the same as merely criticizing Islam) is very similar to virulent anti-Semitism with its conspiracies, paranoia, dehumanizing and demonizing of Muslims.

It's nothing like antisemitism.

 

[sooda]

"Context" is the fav word for fundies to use when
fluffing up their inerrant resdin' of scrip and dismissing
from consideration what anyone else sees in the
"Holy" book.

Well, I'm no fundie.

 

[sooda]

It's nothing like antisemitism.

Arabs are Semites too. Semites are a language group... Hebrew, Arabic, Amharic and Syriac.

 

[Shad]

Arabs are Semites too. Semites are a language group... Hebrew, Arabic, Amharic and Syriac.

Language has nothing to do with the term. It is about Jews and only Jews.

Borrowing the term is a cheap trick to score points, nothing more

 

[Audie]

Well, I'm no fundie.

Didnt say you are, but you are employing the
same tactic.

 

[SugarOcean]

@SugarOcean were you commenting on my post? I'm sorry I didn't follow what you were talking about.

Yes, I did. I quoted your post #30.
Were you not aware of the content of the Reddit link you added at the end of your post?

Robert Spencer Debunked : MuslimsRespond
Introduction

In this article, I will be responding to Robert Spencer, by means of a transcription, in a debate he had with Dr. Kreeft.....

 

[sooda]

Language has nothing to do with the term. It is about Jews and only Jews.

Borrowing the term is a cheap trick to score points, nothing more

Has nothing to do with cheap tricks..

Semite | Definition of Semite by Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Semite
Semite definition is - a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs.

Semite | Definition, Peoples, & Facts | Britannica.com
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Semite
Semite, member of a people speaking any of a group of related languages presumably derived from a common language, Semitic (see Semitic languages). The term came to include Arabs, Akkadians, Canaanites, Hebrews, some Ethiopians, and Aramaean tribes. Mesopotamia, the western coast of the