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Roseanne Barr, X and Freedom of Speech

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Wow! Did you hear her just before the two minute mark? She has gone off her rocker. She is either in serious mental decline or she is insane. Perhaps a health dose of both.
Yes...the whole video.
No...she's smart.
By the way...considering that I live in the Mediterranean area, which was destabilized because of Obama's choices, don't ask me to defend Obama, please.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I totally agree with Roseanne here,


After all... Roseanne Barr stands for freedom of thought and her outspokenness is a treasure that was inspiring for many voters who decided to vote for Trump.

And it seems to me that Obama stands for the negation of freedom of speech...freedom of thought...and freedom of comedy.

and we do know that Harris would have been a continuation of Obama's mandate. His fourth mandate.
One of the biggest threats to free speech is made by modern day Democrats through their collective use of censorship that would quell any opposition made to their philosophies and views and labeling anything and everything as 'misinformation ' their catch all phrase.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
One of the biggest threats to free speech is made by modern day Democrats through their collective use of censorship that would quell any opposition made to their philosophies and views and labeling anything and everything as 'misinformation ' their catch all phrase.
Yes...but they are not credible.
I mean, if you think that X is filled with misinformation, don't be on X. Nobody forces you.
They probably know that there are pieces of information that can open voters' eyes. That is why.
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
I never worried about what celebrities think about anything. I think that may have been a problem for the Democrats, since they seem far too enamored with what celebrities think.
I think Americans are like that in general. They think hollywood is Mt Olympus. That is why a lot of Americans go on shows like Idols. They too want to become demigods and worshipped. So then it is actually a good marketing tactic for Dems to get support from celebs because people look up to them. In reality celebs are mere entertainers. One might get equal wisdom from a beggar on the street. People must realise that fame does not equate to knowledge or wisdom.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I think Americans are like that in general. They think hollywood is Mt Olympus. That is why a lot of Americans go on shows like Idols. They too want to become demigods and worshipped. So then it is actually a good marketing tactic for Dems to get support from celebs because people look up to them. In reality celebs are mere entertainers. One might get equal wisdom from a beggar on the street. People must realise that fame does not equate to knowledge or wisdom.
Or some think that glamorous means true.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Yes...the whole video.
No...she's smart.
By the way...considering that I live in the Mediterranean area, which was destabilized because of Obama's choices, don't ask me to defend Obama, please.
Why? You're defending mentally unhinged people and people bent on pro-capitalist recklessness. You want more of the same and worse than before.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I think Americans are like that in general. They think hollywood is Mt Olympus. That is why a lot of Americans go on shows like Idols. They too want to become demigods and worshipped. So then it is actually a good marketing tactic for Dems to get support from celebs because people look up to them. In reality celebs are mere entertainers. One might get equal wisdom from a beggar on the street. People must realise that fame does not equate to knowledge or wisdom.
I would say buskers have more genuine real talent than these vastly overpaid self absorbed media divas do.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
I think Americans are like that in general.
Agreed
They think hollywood is Mt Olympus. That is why a lot of Americans go on shows like Idols.
I read yesterday that Trump did something on TV
They too want to become demigods and worshipped.
IF Trump did/does THEN we might be in Big Trouble
So then it is actually a good marketing tactic for Dems to get support from celebs because people look up to them.
It is good marketing tactic
It is good karma accumulation also
In reality celebs are mere entertainers. One might get equal wisdom from a beggar on the street.
True
People must realise that fame does not equate to knowledge or wisdom.
That discrimination seems gone
Seeing many Americans worshipping stars as Gods
 
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Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
One of the biggest threats to free speech is made by modern day Democrats through their collective use of censorship that would quell any opposition made to their philosophies and views and labeling anything and everything as 'misinformation ' their catch all phrase.
Media companies banning or restricting people from saying things that go against their values isn't a threat to free speech. Neither is protesting against people. Just counter protest or start your own platform. People can still host their own websites or go to alternative platforms that accommodate them too.

ACTUAL threats to free speech is when these people "disappear", or are brutally suppressed with force.
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
Or some think that glamorous means true.
Exactly. But it also depends on target audience hey. Like Republicans have a big religious base, their celebrities are religious people, which ends up with Evaangelicals praying over Trump. So the Dems and the Reps are just two peas on opposite ends of the pod.
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
I would say buskers have more genuine real talent than these vastly overpaid self absorbed media divas do.
Nah. To say Beyonce, Mick Jagger, Harrison Ford, Robert Downey Jr and many of their calibre have less genuine talent than buskers is just your ideological agenda blinding you.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
I totally agree with Roseanne here,


After all... Roseanne Barr stands for freedom of thought and her outspokenness is a treasure that was inspiring for many voters who decided to vote for Trump.

And it seems to me that Obama stands for the negation of freedom of speech...freedom of thought...and freedom of comedy.

and we do know that Harris would have been a continuation of Obama's mandate. His fourth mandate.
First 2 minutes felt a bit unhinged
But then she did make some valid points

* hollywood is used to brainwash people:
Obvious, I assume, unless one is brainwashed believing:
a) Hollywood stars are Gods of the New Age
b) Hollywood movies are the New Bible
c) Hollywood message is the New Gospel
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Also, Trump is the culmination of this celebrity worship. The cult of personality he has is a result of celebrity worship. One could say the celebs supporting the Dems are Demigods but MAGA worships Trump as a higher God than them.
Because of what he says, not because of what he looks like.
There's a big difference.

Taylor Swift is not followed for what she says.
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
Agreed

I read yesterday that Trump did something on TV

IF Trump did THEN we might be in Big Trouble

It is good marketing tactic
It is good karma accumulation also

True

That discrimination seems gone
Seeing many Americans worshipping stars as Gods
As I said in a reply just now, Trump being elected as president is the ultimate form of this celebrity worship. Whereas as Dems are "polytheistic", Reps are monotheistic with Trump being Jehovah and the religious leaders being archangels.
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
Because of what he says, not because of what he looks like.
There's a big difference.

Taylor Swift is not followed for what she says.
Taylor Swift IS actually followed for what she says. The Swifties probably analyze every word of her songs and they have made a Swifty lore of sorts. Its kinda nuts.
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
First 2 minutes felt a bit unhinged
But then she did make some valid points

* hollywood is used to brainwash people:
Obvious, I assume, unless one is brainwashed believing:
a) Hollywood stars are Gods of the New Age
b) Hollywood movies are the New Bible
c) Hollywood message is the New Gospel
I think it depends which side you are on. Hollywood is as messed up as the bible. All the sordid crap that happens there pretty much happens in churches as well.
 
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