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S&M

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Mrs YmirGF? No, but the pool boys aren't really into spandex (much). *snort*.

Yeah.......... I kinda got all that wrong, yeah? :p
I have come to believe that tabs such as HLGBTQIA just don't adequately describe anybody. I don't know about blokes but I have known a few women during my life and NOT ONE of them had exactly the same needs, desires, wishes, fetishes as the others. I expect that this is true of men as well.

One of my male friends has been in a strong marriage for thirty years. Once he admitted that when his wife gets bored with everything, and the lovemaking tails off, that if he shows a bit of carelessness about her, or acts as if he is disinterested in her, WHAM!....... she is ripping his clothes off.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
One of my male friends has been in a strong marriage for thirty years. Once he admitted that when his wife gets bored with everything, and the lovemaking tails off, that if he shows a bit of carelessness about her, or acts as if he is disinterested in her, WHAM!....... she is ripping his clothes off.
Great Scott, she sounds like she is the perfect mate for most males LOL.
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
How do I repent? I think I understand now.

When I've been bad (for example, if I didn't iron his shirts on time or turn on the hot water for his bath after work) he notices and says,
"Come with me," with a look and a tone of voice I recognise. My step is hesitant but I have to go. We walk into the bedroom and he grabs me, lays me over his lap and he takes his hand to my backside and smacks my arse several times over. With each slap I twitch and yelp, even though I should be used to this by now. The sting radiates into my legs and my back, while tears threaten my eyes. Smack.
Finally stopping, he growls,
"So you have time to faff around on fora but can't find time to iron my shirts, you lazy ****!"
"I had things I needed to--"
Smack.
"Ow!"
"Yeah, I'm sure you did. Are you sorry?"
"Yes!"
"I don't believe you."
And then he pushes me violently off him and onto the floor, where I watch him take off his trousers, one foot on my back so I cannot rise. My cheeks are wet with tears now, but I know struggle is useless.
"You can either give it to me or I can rip your backside to ribbons. Which would you prefer?" He demands, now holding the horse whip.
I sniffle, looking up at him and forcing my self to make a decision. For the sting on my behind, it takes only a few moments.
My right hand reaches to pull down his underwear, as he still stands over me swinging the crop to and fro.


And that's how I repent.


...No, of course I don't enjoy it!
 
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Sutekh

Priest of Odin
Premium Member
Speaking as a total sexual masochist (I mean, 90% or more of my fantasies are highly masochistic, blood, rape etc), I find it all completely normal providing it is all consensual. There are lots of us out there but still some feel afraid to say so openly.
I nearly share those similar fantasies, Iv'e always wanted to be degraded and sexually humiliated.:):) Being bound etc.:)
 

Sutekh

Priest of Odin
Premium Member
Sadism and Masochism

The practice of using pain as a sexualstimulant. Some variants of S&M include


* Breast torture
* Spanking
* Whipping
* Blood play
* Vaginal torture
* 'CBT,' (torture of the penis, scrotum and testicles)
* Asphyxiation
* Hot wax

Slave and Master

Even as an atheist wouldn't you say that this sexuality is intrinsically disordered and wrong, even if both parties are enjoying it?

Wouldn't you agree that both the sadist and a masochist who enjoy these fetishes need serious help?

What do you think causes a person to have these fetishes?


I find BDSM to be perfectly normal, it doesn't really bother me even if these sexual behaviors are viewed as abnormal. I find Spanking and Whipping to be rather exciting:hearteyes:.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Sadism and Masochism

The practice of using pain as a sexualstimulant. Some variants of S&M include


* Breast torture
* Spanking
* Whipping
* Blood play
* Vaginal torture
* 'CBT,' (torture of the penis, scrotum and testicles)
* Asphyxiation
* Hot wax

Slave and Master

Even as an atheist wouldn't you say that this sexuality is intrinsically disordered and wrong, even if both parties are enjoying it?

Wouldn't you agree that both the sadist and a masochist who enjoy these fetishes need serious help?

What do you think causes a person to have these fetishes?

I don't believe they are categorically wrong. It should not be carried to extremes, but as long as both are consenting adults, it is their business.
 

Frater Sisyphus

Contradiction, irrationality and disorder
As long as it is consensual and nobody dies or gets severely injured, it's really nobody else's business but the participants. To each their own I guess.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Nobody seems to want to ask the obvious questions of those who want to engage in this sort of behavior. And that is WHY? Why would a "normal" person want to abuse/humiliate another person? And why would their doing so stimulate them, sexually?

I think when we begin to seriously ask ourselves about the real source motives of this behavior, we might also begin to recognize why it's not so "OK - as long as there is consent".
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
Nobody seems to want to ask the obvious questions of those who want to engage in this sort of behavior. And that is WHY? Why would a "normal" person want to abuse/humiliate another person? And why would their doing so stimulate them, sexually?

I think when we begin to seriously ask ourselves about the real source motives of this behavior, we might also begin to recognize why it's not so "OK - as long as there is consent".
Stop being such a killjoy. There are many theories why but no-one is certain. I myself just see it as part of the dominant and submissive spectrum. Some just like it more hardcore than others. What turns a person on is really no-one else's business as long as, like others have said, both are consenting.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Nobody seems to want to ask the obvious questions of those who want to engage in this sort of behavior. And that is WHY? Why would a "normal" person want to abuse/humiliate another person? And why would their doing so stimulate them, sexually?

I think when we begin to seriously ask ourselves about the real source motives of this behavior, we might also begin to recognize why it's not so "OK - as long as there is consent".

Can i reverse that, why would people believe in a bronze age myth and are wiling to go to war and kill for that belief?
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Stop being such a killjoy. There are many theories why but no-one is certain. I myself just see it as part of the dominant and submissive spectrum. Some just like it more hardcore than others. What turns a person on is really no-one else's business as long as, like others have said, both are consenting.
So I can assume that you won't be asking yourself any probing questions about motivation, then, huh.
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
So I can assume that you won't be asking yourself any probing questions about motivation, then, huh.
On the contrary, I have often wondered why I am as masochistic as I am. I have been since I can remember (4 y/o); it just seems to be a sexuality like being straight or gay is. It's part of my character. Some people get off on balloons; others come over pregnant women and some like slinkies. Who knows why?
 
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