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Sai Baba

How many people does it take? Suppose there is a UFO sighting. One person? Two people? 300 people?

I've heard of many people sharing the same experience. An example is the Hindu Ganesha milk miracle. Somewhere between 100 000 and 1 000 000 eye witnesses, yet the rationalists maintain, "It didn't happen."

If you believe that, send me some money and I will make your dreams come true. Maybe not in this life but the next for sure. I promise.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
If you believe that, send me some money and I will make your dreams come true. Maybe not in this life but the next for sure. I promise.

Never said I believed it or I didn't. The news reports were somewhere above 100 000 eye witnesses. How many people would it take to say they saw something befre you would believe it, or would you have to see it for yourself?
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Sounds like you're avoiding his question. That is telling.

That is Eggyolk's way. :) But what one person says or thinks will in no way affect eyewitnesses of miracles or visions. If you say you saw something in a vision, I can choose to believe you or not, it won't affect your belief in what you saw.

I can say I live in Canada. You can believe me .... or not. :)
 
That is Eggyolk's way. :) But what one person says or thinks will in no way affect eyewitnesses of miracles or visions. If you say you saw something in a vision, I can choose to believe you or not, it won't affect your belief in what you saw.

I can say I live in Canada. You can believe me .... or not. :)

You live in Canada? That is not my issue. If you cannot accept that the surface tension of the milk was pulling the liquid up and out of the spoon, before gravity caused it to run down the front of the statue, then please, I want to make your dreams come true in your next life for a small nominal fee.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
You live in Canada? That is not my issue. If you cannot accept that the surface tension of the milk was pulling the liquid up and out of the spoon, before gravity caused it to run down the front of the statue, then please, I want to make your dreams come true in your next life for a small nominal fee.

How many people would it take to say they witnessed it before you would believe it? The same people who witnessed it happening also say it stopped happening as well. So they also tried the same thing two days later with no results. So according to you, surface tension also has the magical ability to stop itself? That belief, in that a law of physics can stop itself, is even more absurd than belief in the supernatural. So just who is being 'crazy' now?

BTW, I did not witness it.

Do you believe I live in Canada?
 
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How many people would it take to say they witnessed it before you would believe it? The same people who witnessed it happening also say it stopped happening as well. So they also tried the same thing two days later with no results. So according to you, surface tension also has the magical ability to stop itself? That belief, in that a law of physics can stop itself, is even more absurd than belief in the supernatural. So just who is being 'crazy' now?

BTW, I did not witness it.

Do you believe I live in Canada?

I don't care about where you live.

The statues can become saturated.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
If you cannot accept that the surface tension of the milk was pulling the liquid up and out of the spoon, before gravity caused it to run down the front of the statue, then please, I want to make your dreams come true in your next life for a small nominal fee.

Then you should be able to demonstrate what people (devotees, journalists) saw and I saw on videos TODAY (as you claim there was nothing special on that day). Why don't rationalists easily reproduce this.

When you do that I'll need more details to send you my generous donation through paypal.

I won't even request the other phenomenon of that day that included also metal and ceramic statues taking milk. Nor the images of the topic of this thread (Sai Baba) exuding vibhutti and amrit spontaneously.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I don't care about where you live.

The statues can become saturated.

Stone or metal can become saturated? That's a physical law? Can you refer me to a physicist that will demonstrate the saturation of a metal? I have really got to see this. Does the milk remain inside the metal? :)
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
So let me get this straight. First you're saying that gravity can be turned off or on at will. When you get that button figured out, I will definitely send you a cheque. Next you're telling me that brass can absorb milk ... by the gallons in fact. When you get the magic button that can do that , I will send you a larger cheque.

I live in Brazil.
 

Nyingjé Tso

Dharma not drama
Vanakkam,

Sorry, I don't want to break the party but is it possible to respect a little each other's opinion ?

Some people believe it, some don't, period.

And what is this troll doing here ? :facepalm: please leave. This tread is about Sai Baba.

I'm sorry but it's really, really crazy how people comes from nowhere just to troll and be rude in a tread/DIR that is not even related. I think this tread need a good cleaning, for Sb Ji sake !

Aum Namah Shivaya
 

Nyingjé Tso

Dharma not drama
Vanakkam VinayakaJi,

I was mostly talking about the trolls, I don't consider you the kind to disrespect others opinions or to play who got the bigger one, on the contrary !
But there is no need to feed the troll, you know it get nasty after that :/

The milk miracle deserves its own tread IMO, it could be interesting to talk about it and share our opinion/witness of event ...if some are okay not to be intolerants of others points of view :/ This is not a battlefield, we're all Hindus here, belonging to a huge religion where we are taught to and supposed to respect the other devotee /sect /whatever opinion and view of the world. Since when is there any fight of "You are absutely wrong and I hold the sole and only supreme truth" ? Must have missed quite some things around here D:

Aum Namah Shivaya
 
It was just used here in the beginning as an example. I could have used others with higher numbers.

For example, 500 000 people per day go past Sri Venkateshwara in Andhra Pradesh believing this will bless them. Another 150 000 people per day visit Palani. All of these people will vouch that they felt a presence or were blessed in some way. Yet the rationalists and skeptics will say all of these people without fail are superstitious fools, there is no reason to go at all.

So experiences differ. One cannot help but relay on personal experience.

I am no intent of trolling but SB was countering that the milk thing was proof for miracles and it obviously is not. The puddle below the statue explains the where it all goes if the rock is not saturated.
 
Then you should be able to demonstrate what people (devotees, journalists) saw and I saw on videos TODAY (as you claim there was nothing special on that day). Why don't rationalists easily reproduce this.

When you do that I'll need more details to send you my generous donation through paypal.

I won't even request the other phenomenon of that day that included also metal and ceramic statues taking milk. Nor the images of the topic of this thread (Sai Baba) exuding vibhutti and amrit spontaneously.

They have easily reproduced this. You just want to believe in something. Not my place to tell you what to believe, just calling bs when I see it.
 
So let me get this straight. First you're saying that gravity can be turned off or on at will. When you get that button figured out, I will definitely send you a cheque. Next you're telling me that brass can absorb milk ... by the gallons in fact. When you get the magic button that can do that , I will send you a larger cheque.

I live in Brazil.

Good for you. Get a life
 
Vanakkam,

Sorry, I don't want to break the party but is it possible to respect a little each other's opinion ?

Some people believe it, some don't, period.

And what is this troll doing here ? :facepalm: please leave. This tread is about Sai Baba.

I'm sorry but it's really, really crazy how people comes from nowhere just to troll and be rude in a tread/DIR that is not even related. I think this tread need a good cleaning, for Sb Ji sake !

Aum Namah Shivaya

I was just stating a popular opinion about SB and his fraudulent miracle claims. If you think that that is trolling, then you need to get of this site because there is no use for you.
 
A hundred thousand people did not see this puddle. Did you witness it?

So now we have: gravity defied, metal than can absorb liquid, and puddles that exist that nobody can see ... when will it end? :)

When you get common sense? A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
 
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