Heyo
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It is a pretty harmless lie and not very convincing. Only children believe that one.
There are lies for adults - which aren't very much more elaborate - which are believed by millions.
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Santa Clause?
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There are lies for adults - which aren't very much more elaborate - which are believed by millions.
TagliatelliMonster
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That should be fairly easy to show.
Can you?
Altfish
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It is hard to avoid, and it builds up the children's excitement.
My 6-year old grand daughter is starting to question his existence; she went to see Santa with her parents and said, "That's a different Santa to the one we saw at school"
If I use them, no light appears, so the words are not magical.
We Never Know
No Slack
I knew this would happen sooner or later
Heyo
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You have to believe.
It works always when I say it.
(But I always flip a switch when I say it.)
So you're a God?
Subduction Zone
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Proof positive that Santa is real. NORAD has been tracking Santa for 68 years. That is longer than I have been alive. You don't mess with the US military:
www.noradsanta.org
Official NORAD Santa Tracker
Follow Santa Claus as he makes his magical journey around the world!
No.
Then it is the belief that works, not the words.
Then it wouldn't matter if you used the right words anyways.
Then it is not the words that have the power.
It's a combination of words and wielder. Things are interesting like that.
Heyo
Veteran Member
So, you don't believe that El spoke the light into being?
I did use the adjective 'deliberate '
In scripture a lie is either: on purpose or not, willful or not, premeditated or not, by accident or not, deliberate or not..........
Sure, there are lies for adults but that does Not make it right. Does Not turn a lie into being a fact, being the truth.
I believe God created everything as told in the Bible.
Heyo
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I don't know much about the Bible but the creation as told in the Bible is very magical including El using words to work the magic, i.e. spells.
That is something that discerns (most) atheists from (most) believers. (The actual difference is between naturalists and non naturalists but the overlap is so strong that it doesn't make much of a difference.)
You believe that the laws of nature can be bend or broken by a divine being (i.e. magic) and we don't.
беспокойный путешественни
All gods are great.
I deliberately don't have any children of my own (they don't fit into my lifestyle), so I can only report from my experience with family and friends. Some of the children I know grew up with Santa Claus, and their parents' reasoning was usually something like "then they'll be happy!". I am of the opinion that parents whose children are only happy when you lie to them are basically doing something wrong.
It has no advantage for a child's development to "believe" in an advertising figure from Coca-Cola or that a fat old man gives them expensive things for no reason. I think it's cheeky that my parents also lied to me when I was a child. Your mileage may vary, of course.
Why?
The words were not spells and do nothing on their own. If they would, you could also do the same by saying the words.