Schizophrenia: fear of death

[Secret Chief]

To guess is the new science?

Miaow!

 

[blü 2]

Schizophrenia: the subconscious fear of death
By Dmitri Martila,
Tartu University,
7.detsember.2021.

“Why you should define your fears instead of your goals | Tim Ferriss”

Any problem out or in there [any criminality, injustice, rejection, ban, insult, assault, abuse, trolling, bullying, or sin] is making the very sensitive person fear in sub-conscious mind (look the definition of sub-consciousness in Carl Jung’s papers) for own safety and life expectancy/outlook. For such a person there is no gap between his death after 40 or 70 years and today. His inner-self fears to die; the religion comforts the soul, but not so much the bodily part of a human. He notices the aging of the skin; the physical health and career possibilities are rapidly declining with age. The fear of death in sub-consciousness drives the sensitive person crazy. There is the fear of death in the Bible, look at its most revealing symptoms: “An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him. And having been in agony, He was praying more earnestly. And His sweat became like great drops of blood falling down upon the ground.” Luke 22. I am not a health professional, but would a person in our clinics pray so intensely (and, thus, dangerously for himself) like that? And even hallucinate a devil or an angel? However, there is no health problem with Jesus Christ.

I see no reason to disagree with my explanation of schizoid. Behind all symptoms is fear of death. The person with the fear of death becomes crazy and kills himself. It is not obvious, because we have no access to our subconscious. I am only guessing: the person goes crazy, because there is some fear in subconscious. It is the cutting edge of science, hence the old methods of science might not work. However, the science includes the method of hypothesizing. Yes, I have large amount of clinical data to make a guess.

OK, human, you do not like my line of reasoning, but I like you very much. Please look, how good looking I am and how logical:

Such a scientists anybody should trust!


Jesus saw the angel by the way. There was extremely fear of death, and the angel has come. The main aspect of schizophrenia are the visions.


Patients do not describe their states as fear of death, or as a fear in general, because we have no access to what is happening in sub-mind.


It is absolutely not healthy to die.



Because the fear has broken the person. The person has lost the ability to think rationally. To fear is not healthy lifestyle. The Schizophrenia is the background fear, that cannot yet be completely removed by current level of medicine.

The very concept of schizophrenia has been under attack in the last decade or more, with numerous papers reporting the absence of any clear definition of schizophrenia based on objective standards, the inconsistency between various definitions in use, the consequent absence of objective standards of diagnosis, and the range of inconsistency of diagnosis across the psychiatric profession.

So it seems fair to ask what definition of 'schizophrenia' you're using here.

 

[questfortruth]

Because the fear has broken the person. The person has lost the ability to think rationally.

As i said earlier there are many who would embrace death.

It is the feeling, not so much rationality:
"And he said, Abba , Father , all things are possible unto thee ; take away this cup from me" Mark 14:36.

 

[RestlessSoul]

It is absolutely not healthy to die.

the religion comforts the soul, but not so much the bodily part of a human. He notices the aging of the skin; the physical health and career possibilities are rapidly declining with age. The fear of death in sub-consciousness drives the sensitive person crazy.

But death is intrinsic to life. The two are bound together like twin strands in a double helix. Why fear something that is inevitable, and natural? What will be, will be.

And try not to judge yourself, or think you're failure. Your path is your path; no one else can walk it, but you can, with courage and with the comfort of faith

 

[Spirit of Light]

Miaow!

I guess that is a digital cat you imitated

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I disagree, that I am a bad person.

I didn't say that.
Reading comprehension is not part of your amazing skill set it seems.

 

[questfortruth]

So it seems fair to ask what definition of 'schizophrenia' you're using here.

The patient must acknowledge the sickness, in order to start taking medicine; but after many years he should add to tablets of medicine the growing feeling of normality.

But death is intrinsic to life.

Not in religious worldview. There was no death in Eden, there will be no dying in Paradise.

 

[Spirit of Light]

The patient must acknowledge the sickness, in order to start taking medicine; but after many years he should add to tablets of medicine the growing feeling of normality.



Not in religious worldview. There was no death in Eden, there will be no dying in Paradise.

The physical body does die here on earth now. It is a part of being human

 

[ChristineM]

Because the fear has broken the person. The person has lost the ability to think rationally. To fear is not healthy life style. The Schizophrenia is the background fear, that cannot yet be completely removed by current level of medicine.

As i say, in your version... It manifests differently in other people. Do not make the mistake that you are all schizophrenics

 

[RestlessSoul]

It is the feeling, not so much rationality:
"And he said, Abba , Father , all things are possible unto thee ; take away this cup from me" Mark 14:36.

He had to drain the cup, didn't he? But the Father sent an angel to comfort him.

 

[Sheldon]

Schizophrenia: the subconscious fear of death
By Dmitri Martila,
Tartu University,
7.detsember.2021.

“Why you should define your fears instead of your goals | Tim Ferriss”

Any problem out or in there [any criminality, injustice, rejection, ban, insult, assault, abuse, trolling, bullying, or sin] is making the very sensitive person fear in sub-conscious mind (look the definition of sub-consciousness in Carl Jung’s papers) for own safety and life expectancy/outlook. For such a person there is no gap between his death after 40 or 70 years and today. His inner-self fears to die; the religion comforts the soul, but not so much the bodily part of a human. He notices the aging of the skin; the physical health and career possibilities are rapidly declining with age. The fear of death in sub-consciousness drives the sensitive person crazy. There is the fear of death in the Bible, look at its most revealing symptoms: “An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him. And having been in agony, He was praying more earnestly. And His sweat became like great drops of blood falling down upon the ground.” Luke 22. I am not a health professional, but would a person in our clinics pray so intensely (and, thus, dangerously for himself) like that? And even hallucinate a devil or an angel? However, there is no health problem with Jesus Christ.

I see no reason to disagree with my explanation of schizoid. Behind all symptoms is fear of death. The person with the fear of death becomes crazy and kills himself. It is not obvious, because we have no access to our subconscious. I am only guessing: the person goes crazy, because there is some fear in subconscious. It is the cutting edge of science, hence the old methods of science might not work. However, the science includes the method of hypothesizing. Yes, I have large amount of clinical data to make a guess.

OK, human, you do not like my line of reasoning, but I like you very much. Please look, how good looking I am and how logical:

Such a scientists anybody should trust!


Jesus saw the angel by the way. There was extremely fear of death, and the angel has come. The main aspect of schizophrenia are the visions.


Patients do not describe their states as fear of death, or as a fear in general, because we have no access to what is happening in sub-mind.


It is absolutely not healthy to die.



Because the fear has broken the person. The person has lost the ability to think rationally. To fear is not healthy lifestyle. The Schizophrenia is the background fear, that cannot yet be completely removed by current level of medicine.

The person has lost the ability to think rationally. It is the feeling, not so much rationality:
"And he said, Abba , Father , all things are possible unto thee ; take away this cup from me" Mark 14:36.



The patient must acknowledge the sickness, in order to start taking medicine; but after many years he should add to tablets of medicine the growing feeling of normality.



Not in religious worldview. There was no death in Eden, there will be no dying in Paradise.

I don't suffer from schizophrenia of course, but I don't nor have I ever feared being dead, I didn't exist for almost 13.5 billion years after all, that didn't seem much bother. I see no reason to worry about not existing, as that seems illogical.

The dying part is something I'd like to be as quick and painless as possible, but these days medical science is all over that, as long as everyone keeps their oar out, there's no reason to worry too much about that either.

 

[ChristineM]

The patient must acknowledge the sickness, in order to start taking medicine; but after many years he should add to tablets of medicine the growing feeling of normality.

I am very happy that you are now acknowledging you schizophrenia. It is a giant step in the right direction.

 

[Sheldon]

The science includes the method of hypothesizing.

The results when accepted do not. this is quite a common canard people accuses science of, but science doesn't just hypothesize. Scientific ideas must always be falsifiable, they must be testable, they are never absolutes, as they always remain tentative and open to revision in the light of new evidence, even facts as well established as an accepted scientific theory like species evolution, where the likelihood its core claims of species evolution and natural selection, will ever substantively revised, let alone entirely reversed is so low as to be effectively nil, it still is rigorously tested and scrutinised. Vague hypothesise may be how some ideas start, but they won't ever be accepted as scientific theories in that form, and it is misleading to suggest otherwise.

 

[blü 2]

The patient must acknowledge the sickness, in order to start taking medicine; but after many years he should add to tablets of medicine the growing feeling of normality.

So as in life, so with you, 'schizophrenia' is undefined ─ it means whatever anyone would like it to mean, I take it?

 

[Audie]

Behind all symptoms is fear of death? And the fear of death become crazy and kills him self?

I been to hell and back in fear for my life more than a few times in my life...i was diagnosed with PTSD. In your eyes, I should be dead?

I see we have something in common, including
finding the above theory to be non ctedible.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I see we have something in common, including
finding the above theory to be non ctedible.

That is true.

 

[Audie]

The results when accepted do not. this is quite a common canard people accuses science of, but science doesn't just hypothesize. Scientific ideas must always be falsifiable, they must be testable, they are never absolutes, as they always remain tentative and open to revision in the light of new evidence, even facts as well established as an accepted scientific theory like species evolution, where the likelihood its core claims of species evolution and natural selection, will ever substantively revised, let alone entirely reversed is so low as to be effectively nil, it still is rigorously tested and scrutinised. Vague hypothesise may be how some ideas start, but they won't ever be accepted as scientific theories in that form, and it is misleading to suggest otherwise.

Spoilsport!

 

[Link]

Fear of death is not the reason, most suicidal people are schizophrenics, most percentage of people who commit suicide are schizophrenics, we don't give a **** about life and living is our biggest problem.

It's that the brain goes too fast and then thoughts race and then we don't control fear, fear overrides everything when brain is stressed and we base our conclusions and beliefs to be the most cynical when that happens and hence delusions of a scary nature.

The way the medications help is they block enough dopamine receptors, that our brains won't go too fast.

And a lot of schizophrenics have high IQ.

Note: I don't mind the term schizophrenic and I am one while some people prefer to say "people with schizophrenia" for that.

 

[Link]

There is also a problem is that literally we in same loop for some thoughts over and over again. This is a problem with fast brains, they tend to form habits of looping same **** over and over again, and it takes CBT to get out of that irrational looping.

 

[ChristineM]

There is also a problem is that literally we in same loop for some thoughts over and over again. This is a problem with fast brains, they tend to form habits of looping same **** over and over again, and it takes CBT to get out of that irrational looping.

That is one of the symptoms my brother in law suffers.