If he sees a good psychologist or Therapist, he can get out of it if he acknowledges they know how to help.
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Schizophrenia: fear of death
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If he sees a good psychologist or Therapist, he can get out of it if he acknowledges they know how to help.
In my view, the hardest illness to be hit with is this one. Because not only is your life at risk from literal death from it (very high), but your life quality is very hard to make good with it. Also, another thing that happens with it, it's very hard to have any sense of ego or pride. Pride not in the bad arrogant sense, but good self-esteem sense. I mean it from that angle.
It's almost impossible to not be in negative ego where we hate ourselves. This is because it's negative fear that makes us analyze ourselves in the most cynical way.
Please never a tell a delusional person he is arrogant because of what he believes. It's not arrogance, it's his delusional mind trying to build meaning to him where you value life goals, they don't.
A person who believes they are Jesus or a Prophet or something and they are delusional, they do so, because nothing in this world means anything to them, so their brain creates a fantasy of meaning for them.
They don't find meaning in wealth, family, marriage, career, it all means nothing to them.
This comes from their over-cynical analysis of themselves and others, so they go to a high meaning for themselves, that is way over the top. That's why some of them even think they are god or gods or incarnations of gods.
It's almost impossible to not be in negative ego where we hate ourselves. This is because it's negative fear that makes us analyze ourselves in the most cynical way.
Please never a tell a delusional person he is arrogant because of what he believes. It's not arrogance, it's his delusional mind trying to build meaning to him where you value life goals, they don't.
A person who believes they are Jesus or a Prophet or something and they are delusional, they do so, because nothing in this world means anything to them, so their brain creates a fantasy of meaning for them.
They don't find meaning in wealth, family, marriage, career, it all means nothing to them.
This comes from their over-cynical analysis of themselves and others, so they go to a high meaning for themselves, that is way over the top. That's why some of them even think they are god or gods or incarnations of gods.
He goes through phases. Unfortunately he is currently having a bad time and won't acknowledge his illness. With all the problems that gives. I hope that soon enough he will accept again that he has schizophrenia and seek treatment before it drags him too far down.
RestlessSoul
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No. And it is not a theory, it is a hypothesis.
RestlessSoul
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Physicists, both quantum and cosmological, seem willing to devote quite a lot of time and effort on a matter which appears to fail Popper’s standard for scientific endeavour. Are they being unscientific then?
Howabout String Theory? Unscientific? Or too early to say?
It's the worse part. Not seeing the illness because the illness blinds you to it. If we accept it for what it is and insight to it, it's practically cured and negated at that point (figure of speech).
Get him to talk me about it if you want. Get him to pm me. Sometimes peer support helps.
The multiverse hypothesis does have indicators observable in our own universe hence the need to hypothesise. It does explain several phenomenon.
String theory is currently untested but some scientists say it appears to bridge several gaps in knowledge. There are those who consider it a working theory and those who consider it philosophy. In fact in recent months those studying the idea have called on philosophy to help.
I wouldn't call it a theory in the scientific meaning of theory.
Some scientific theories are proven beyond doubt. Some not, and can be changed with new information. It depends on the nature of theory. Some like you said are more philosophical and less use of the scientific method.
I talk to him every day, often more than once. And i would love to get him to talk with you. However at the moment if i even mention schizophrenia he goes ballistic... Not worth the risk. He will be talking to his psychiatrist later this month. Maybe she will be able to help him
The thing is we trust our fellow schizophrenics more, because we say , we experience 6th sense all together (we think we experience it similar and some of us do).
We tend to not trust authorities, so doctors and psychiatrists can't help us. Sometimes intervention by a fellow who experience same ****, is better. I use to see spirits in walls in lights etc, and believed it was real.
It takes a while to get over that and realize it's a hallucination and mind interpreting data in a scary way.
RestlessSoul
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Okay then. Still, it seems we can say that the statement "Scientific ideas must always be falsifiable" is at best an overreach, if not demonstrably false. This must be so, since research grants are being directed toward fields of study which are, as things currently stand, unfalsifiable.
String theory doesn't make any testable predictions
And research funding for ideas is usually a good investment, without it we would still be pre industrial revolution
One of my brother in laws symptoms is distrust of people. He has auditory hallucinations and imagines the people who are close to him (friends, relatives, even people he passes in the street) are plotting against him. I have a hard enough time as it is with him, at the moment i would not like to introduce another source for his schizophrenia to feed on. Thanks for the offer thought and maybe in the future when he is not so down it could be a good idea
RestlessSoul
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I agree. Without creative thinkers, who are willing to challenge prevailing orthodoxies in all fields of human endeavour, we'd remain in ignorance for ever.
That is obviously 100% false. To believe that no Christians have health problems is to be utterly disconnected from the world.
Again, disconnected with the real world. If you believe in heaven, then to die and enter heaven would be the best possible healthy thing to do.
Again, utterly wrong. There is growing evidence that it's really a brain disease https://www.mentalhelp.net/schizophrenia/evidence-its-a-brain-disease/
ScientificAmerican had a neat piece on testability that included the following. Sooner or later every scientific conjecture must be testable. The jury is still out here.
So in a new twist for string theory, researchers can actually look to the sky for some answers. How much inflation is too much for the censorship conjecture? The situation is a bit complicated. Several different models for the actual process of inflation exist, and astrophysicists do not yet have data that confirm any one of them, or the basic idea as a whole, as the correct description of our universe. Researchers have begun working out the limits the new conjecture puts on the many versions of inflation. Some have a built-in way to hide trans-Planckian details, but Loverde says that many of the typical models conflict with the conjecture..
RestlessSoul
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CBT, I believe, enables a person to retrain their neural pathways, and thus break the loop or cycle?
They have to show also where they are assuming without evidence, so go the root of it. The person is in a loop and revisits it while there is no proof or reason for their delusional thoughts. There usually is a basis to their delusion, but it's not rational.