Schwarzenegger Vows Gay Marriage Bill Veto

[Theodore]

I find it disturbing and offensive that homophiles are denigrating the sanctity of true religion by being dogmatic in trying to deny those who do not believe in what you do.

Pray tell where homosexuality fits in to your "true religion".

 

[Green Gaia]

I disagree that NO ONE will be affected by same sex marriage other than gays and lesbians. Blanket statements like this usually end up having exceptions (I learned this from all those True/False tests in school ). I do agree that the largest effect will be on the gay and lebian population.

OK, allow me to rephrase: Same sex marriage will not effect the population as a whole any more or less than heterosexual marriage does now.

 

[jonny]

OK, allow me to rephrase: Same sex marriage will not effect the population as a whole any more or less than heterosexual marriage does now.

I'll agree with that one.

 

[Green Gaia]

Are these people who are so worried about homosexuality being forced on them concerned at all about heterosexuality being forced on homosexuals? Probably not.

 

[jonny]

Are these people who are so worried about homosexuality being forced on them concerned at all about heterosexuality being forced on homosexuals? Probably not.

It goes both ways. They are probably no more concerned than you are worried about homosexuality being forced on heterosexuals.

I think that the reason why we have such a huge divide in our country is because people don't care about what anyone else thinks or feels. Everyone is put into boxes - right and left, gay and straight, religious and athiest, etc. Too many people stand in their boxes and critisize everyone in the other box.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Pray tell where homosexuality fits in to your "true religion".

If I had to hazard a guess, probably under the category 'love and nurturing' - just about where yours exposes an ugly stain.

 

[Theodore]

The response I am getting from the queer contingent on this board is quite representative of the general reaction of the gay community when a discussion of this sort comes up. Anger, distortion, false accusations, name calling and vilification are all the hallmarks of what heterosexual people receive when they dare to question or criticize homosexuality. You don’t do yourselves or your cause any favors by pissing off straights who have issues with you. Most people will politely back down and vote against you in the next election.

Keep in mind that you are a very small minority of people who want everybody else to believe the same way you do. You want the majority of people to accept your lifestyle as being just another healthy and natural choice. You are relying on peoples natural empathy and sense of compassion to successfully execute your political agenda.

What you are actually doing is alienating a lot of potential sympathizers by your vitriolic and hate filled reactions to anyone who disagrees with you. You are producing the exact opposite of the result you are hoping for.

Arnold was handed a political gift by the California Democrats. His popularity was given a huge boost by his promising to veto the gay marriage bill. Why? Because the majority of people in this state don’t want gay marriage.

Maybe you should go out and tell everybody in California that they are a bunch of hateful, ignorant homophobes. Tell them that they are also vicious, callus and malicious bigots and see how much sympathy you get in the next election.

 

[Green Gaia]

It goes both ways. They are probably no more concerned than you are worried about homosexuality being forced on heterosexuals.

No one is forcing homosexuality on any heterosexual, unlike certain heterosexuals who are forcing their ideals and beliefs on homosexuals by denying them equal rights. I'm not worried about homosexuality being forced on heterosexuals because IT IS NOT HAPPENING. I don't know how I can make this any clearer.

 

[Green Gaia]

Keep in mind that you are a very small minority of people who want everybody else to believe the same way you do

WRONG.


You just don't get it do you?

 

[Green Gaia]

Anger, distortion, false accusations, name calling and vilification are all the hallmarks of what heterosexual people receive when they dare to question or criticize homosexuality.

I don't care what you do in your life. On the other hand you have called me and my life "morally repugnant, morally corrupt and repulsive" and host of other vile names. Am I supposed to just take that garbage from you? I don't think so. Questioning or factual criticism of homosexuality is not a problem, but you have done neither and simply wish to insult by calling people "morally repugnant, morally corrupt and repulsive". If that's your opinion, fine, but don't whine and cry when people react to your insults.

 

[Green Gaia]

What you are actually doing is alienating a lot of potential sympathizers by your vitriolic and hate filled reactions to anyone who disagrees with you. You are producing the exact opposite of the result you are hoping for.

As are you sir. The difference is, we are simply reacting to your personal attacks.

 

[Green Gaia]

Because the majority of people in this state don’t want gay marriage

THEN THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE ONE.

Those who do want gay marriage, should have the option and right to do so equally under the law.

 

[Flappycat]

Are these people who are so worried about homosexuality being forced on them concerned at all about heterosexuality being forced on homosexuals? Probably not.

Of course not. It's only a bad thing if something's being forced onto them because they are God's special friends; ain't that right, Theodore?

Homosexuality's never been forced on you, Theodore. Nobody even cares how you feel about it. For all I care, you can sit on your behind and think happy thoughts about homosexuals and atheists burning in Hell until the day you die. However, I really think that you and the rest of the bigots are getting more than a little uppity in thinking that you have a right to play moral police in the name of a religion that you're too self-centered to deserve membership in. If someone's doing something that has the slightest negative effect on someone else, then, by all means, intervene, but keep yourselves out of the lives of people who want nothing more than to be able to live a semblance of a normal life.

 

[Jaymes]

The response I am getting from the queer contingent on this board is quite representative of the general reaction of the gay community when a discussion of this sort comes up. Anger, distortion, false accusations, name calling and vilification are all the hallmarks of what heterosexual people receive when they dare to question or criticize homosexuality. You don’t do yourselves or your cause any favors by pissing off straights who have issues with you. Most people will politely back down and vote against you in the next election.

And civil rights will triumph, as they have a tendency to do.

Keep in mind that you are a very small minority of people who want everybody else to believe the same way you do.

That is an outright lie and you know it. Don't you dare accuse me of lying and distorting things when you're the one lying. You know, or would know if you bothered to read my posts, that I don't want to make people think the way I do.

I want civil rights. I don't care if everyone agrees with me.

You want the majority of people to accept your lifestyle as being just another healthy and natural choice.

See the above. It's hardly a lifestyle... unless you consider yourself part of the heterosexual lifestyle. Hell, look at everything in there... divorce, STDs, unwanted pregnancies, abortions... I think I'll stick to the gay 'lifestyle,' thank you very much.

You are relying on peoples natural empathy and sense of compassion to successfully execute your political agenda.

What is so political about me wanting to marry Liz? Do you know us? What do I have to gain politically by wanting to marry her?

I've known her for years, been involved with her almost a year, and loved her every minute of it. And I want to marry her because of a political agenda? I don't want to be elected to anything, I just want to have the same rights heterosexual couples can get at the snap of a finger.

What you are actually doing is alienating a lot of potential sympathizers by your vitriolic and hate filled reactions to anyone who disagrees with you. You are producing the exact opposite of the result you are hoping for.

The only hate I've seen here is the rubbish you've been calling us.

Maybe you should go out and tell everybody in California that they are a bunch of hateful, ignorant homophobes. Tell them that they are also vicious, callus and malicious bigots and see how much sympathy you get in the next election.

Most people aren't, they're just ignorant and operating under the false assumption that churches will be forced to marry homosexuals.

Unless they know that's not true and want to deny us civil rights anyway, in which case they're bigots.

 

[jonny]

No one is forcing homosexuality on any heterosexual, unlike certain heterosexuals who are forcing their ideals and beliefs on homosexuals by denying them equal rights. I'm not worried about homosexuality being forced on heterosexuals because IT IS NOT HAPPENING. I don't know how I can make this any clearer.

Heterosexuality is not being forced on homosexuals. You do not need to get married to be a homosexual, just like you don't need to get married to be heterosexual. I'm not worried about heterosexuality being forced on homosexuals because IT IS NOT HAPPENING. I don't know how I can make this any clearer.

That being said, I think that the same rights extended to heterosexuals should be extended to homosexuals because we are all humans and we are all Americans.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

The response I am getting from the queer contingent on this board ...

Actually, it's the non-homophobic-bigotry contingent. Our attitude towards sociopathic stupidity transcends our sexual preferences - as it should.

 

[Green Gaia]

Maybe you should go out and tell everybody in California that they are a bunch of hateful, ignorant homophobes.

No, that's not necessary... because, maybe I've naive, but I like to think that people like you are the minority.

 

[Green Gaia]

Heterosexuality is not being forced on homosexuals.

You don't think so? Ever heard of reparative therapy? Denial of equal rights? Demonization by religious groups? I could go on and on.

We don't want to change heterosexuals lives, we just want religious beliefs kept out of the law.

 

[Darkdale]

Keep in mind that you are a very small minority of people who want everybody else to believe the same way you do. You want the majority of people to accept your lifestyle as being just another healthy and natural choice. You are relying on peoples natural empathy and sense of compassion to successfully execute your political agenda.

Homosexuality isn't a belief or an opinion. It's a behavior and it's a type of relationship. Should governments really be telling people what kind of relationships they can have? If your relationships don't fit into the Christian Conservative paradigm, it should be banned all together? You can't really believe this.

 

[michel]

How in the name of (deity) am I forcing homosexuality into anyone's life by wanting to marry my girlfriend? It's logical to see that views are being forced on me when I can't marry... I can't see anything logical about saying I'm forcing homosexuality into someone's life just by me marrying SOMEONE ELSE.

That, and most of the time you wouldn't have to force homosexuality into anyone's life. It's already there, usually... just about everyone knows someone gay.

But don't you understand Jensa ? - your marrying the person you love (because God made you both the way you are) is something that upsets other people's sensibilities (In this case Theodore's). As a believer in God, Theodore wants to see people like you (who have been created by God) denied hope of any form of a legal relationship because of your sexual orientation (which you have obviously decided to adopt as a chosen way of life, because you enjoy being persecuted).

The response I am getting from the queer contingent on this board is quite representative of the general reaction of the gay community when a discussion of this sort comes up. Anger, distortion, false accusations, name calling and vilification are all the hallmarks of what heterosexual people receive when they dare to question or criticize homosexuality. You don’t do yourselves or your cause any favors by pissing off straights who have issues with you. Most people will politely back down and vote against you in the next election.

Keep in mind that you are a very small minority of people who want everybody else to believe the same way you do. You want the majority of people to accept your lifestyle as being just another healthy and natural choice. You are relying on peoples natural empathy and sense of compassion to successfully execute your political agenda.

What you are actually doing is alienating a lot of potential sympathizers by your vitriolic and hate filled reactions to anyone who disagrees with you. You are producing the exact opposite of the result you are hoping for.

Arnold was handed a political gift by the California Democrats. His popularity was given a huge boost by his promising to veto the gay marriage bill. Why? Because the majority of people in this state don’t want gay marriage.

Maybe you should go out and tell everybody in California that they are a bunch of hateful, ignorant homophobes. Tell them that they are also vicious, callus and malicious bigots and see how much sympathy you get in the next election.

Sorry Theodore;

Anger, distortion, false accusations, name calling and vilification are all the hallmarks of what homosexual people receive when they dare to admit to their homosexuality. You don’t do yourself or your cause any favors by pissing off homosexuals who have no issues with your sexual orientation.

Keep in mind that you are a very large majority of people who want everybody else to believe the same way you do. You want the majority of people to accept your lifestyle as being just another healthy and natural choice. You are relying on peoples natural fear of something they don't understand to successfully execute your political agenda.

What you are actually doing is alienating a lot of other heterosexuals by your vitriolic and hate filled reactions to anyone who disagrees with you. You are producing the exact opposite of the result you are hoping for.

Maybe you should go out and tell each and every homosexual in California that they are a bunch of persecuted and abused strata of society. Tell them how homophobes are also vicious, callus and malicious bigots and see how much sympathy you get in the next election.