Darkforbid
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Rubbish
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Science and God
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Rubbish
No it does not your assertions are hot air and a hostile view toward the Baha;i Faith.
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Is that all that comes out of your mouth is rubbish?
Darkforbid
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C causes apparent time dilation it's what relativity states
Darkforbid
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So me stating your faiths claims is hostile
'Similarly, the terrestrial globe from the beginning was created with all its elements, substances, minerals, atoms and organisms; but these only appeared by degrees: first the mineral, then the plant, afterward the animal, and finally man. But from the first these kinds and species existed, but were undeveloped in the terrestrial globe, and then appeared only gradually. For the supreme organization of God, and the universal natural system, surround all beings, and all are subject to this rule. When you consider this universal system, you see that there is not one of the beings which at its coming into existence has reached the limit of perfection. No, they gradually grow and develop, and then attain the degree of perfection. (`Abdu'l-Bahá, Some Answered Questions, p. 199)'
Darkforbid
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I've just had to explain your own faith for you
You are absolutely clueless concerning the Baha'i Faith. References?
The text just described evolution and NOT that human existed in the form of humans in the beginning. Do you have a reading comprehension issue?
Nonetheless Einstein describes time as time-space continuum, and is used in his equations. Speed needs time and the speed of light is in his equations,
Darkforbid
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I've just posted a thread on your faith my question are there
The Reference is from `Abdu'l-Bahá, Some Answered Questions, p. 199)'
Darkforbid
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Well you obviously do I said there but unmade just like the man you follow wrote
Reading comprehension issue here. The text you referenced described evolution.
first the mineral, then the plant, afterward the animal, and finally man. But from the first these kinds and species existed, but were undeveloped in the terrestrial globe, and then appeared only gradually.
The evolution is first the mineral, than the plant kingdom. afterward the animal, and finally man.
This is the order that evolution took place, but of course, Abdul baha was not a scientist, therefore his words are not scientific.
All life existed undeveloped in the terrestrial globe. In other words all life evolved from the mineral kingdom before life existed, In science this is abiogenesis.
From: Science and Religion | What Bahá’ís Believe
Bahá’ís reject the notion that there is an inherent conflict between science and religion, a notion that became prevalent in intellectual discourse at a time when the very conception of each system of knowledge was far from adequate. The harmony of science and religion is one of the fundamental principles of the Bahá’í Faith, which teaches that religion, without science, soon degenerates into superstition and fanaticism, while science without religion becomes merely the instrument of crude materialism. “Religion,” according to the Bahá’í writings, “is the outer expression of the divine reality. Therefore, it must be living, vitalized, moving and progressive.”1 “Science is the first emanation from God toward man. All created things embody the potentiality of material perfection, but the power of intellectual investigation and scientific acquisition is a higher virtue specialized to man alone. Other beings and organisms are deprived of this potentiality and attainment.”2
So far as earthly existence is concerned, many of the greatest achievements of religion have been moral in character. Through its teachings and through the examples of human lives illumined by these teachings, masses of people in all ages and lands have developed the capacity to love, to give generously, to serve others, to forgive, to trust in God, and to sacrifice for the common good. Social structures and institutional systems have been devised that translate these moral advances into the norms of social life on a vast scale. In the final analysis, the spiritual impulses set in motion by the Founders of the world’s religions—the Manifestations of God—have been the chief influence in the civilizing of human character.
‘Abdu’l-Bahá has described science as the “most noble” of all human virtues and “the discoverer of all things”.3 Science has enabled society to separate fact from conjecture. Further, scientific capabilities—of observing, of measuring, of rigorously testing ideas—have allowed humanity to construct a coherent understanding of the laws and processes governing physical reality, as well as to gain insights into human conduct and the life of society.
Taken together, science and religion provide the fundamental organizing principles by which individuals, communities, and institutions function and evolve. When the material and spiritual dimensions of the life of a community are kept in mind and due attention is given to both scientific and spiritual knowledge, the tendency to reduce human progress to the consumption of goods, services and technological packages is avoided. Scientific knowledge, to take but one simple example, helps the members of a community to analyse the physical and social implications of a given technological proposal—say, its environmental impact—and spiritual insight gives rise to moral imperatives that uphold social harmony and that ensure technology serves the common good. Together, these two sources of knowledge are essential to the liberation of individuals and communities from the traps of ignorance and passivity. They are vital to the advancement of civilization.
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Darkforbid
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You misslead deliberately from the same text where you've selectively edit the text I would say you're ID but down right liar is a perfect discription:
Similarly, the terrestrial globe from the beginning was created with all its elements, substances, minerals, atoms and organisms; but these only appeared by degrees:
But from the first these kinds and species existed, but were undeveloped in the terrestrial globe,
So from this editing I can see you don't even honour the man you follow
Oh and saying space-time, over and over isn't an argument
No, it remains your reading comprehension in English remains an issue, compounded by an anti-Baha'i agenda, as well as a poor understanding of math and science in your posts.
My references were NOT selective, but reflected the whole reference and others cited.
Again the problem of the Theory of Relativity and space time continuum as cited form the work of Einstein remains an unfortunate deficiency in your English language or possibly a stubborn personal agenda rejecting actual literal references from the science of Einstein.
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To add your structure of the sentence in English almost makes it unreadable.
Thief
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Thief
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the book IS he theory of relativity
No it is Einstein's Theory of Relativity, and in the formula E=mc2 where the speed of light is expressed in terms of time.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
That is not a book. The theory of Relativity is based on a space-time continuum of the nature of our physical existence and the speed of light is expressed in terms of time in E=mc2