For example cell phones are reat until you realize you have to be availibe 24/7
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Science has given us this and God has given us what?
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MattersOfTheHeart
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I have heard a few times in responses here, that it is far more attractive to have the modern luxuries we have, as opposed to living like people did in the past.
To me this is such a lame line of reasoning, because we adapt. We find beauty, harmony, peace, or whatever you want to call it, wherever we are. Newton alone in a room playing with a prism comes to mind.
I have so many friends that prefer our time in the wilderness living off the land, and cringe at how society is structured so that most people have little choice but to fall in line and feed the machine.
So, yeah, video games, hair dryers, etc... All really cool, but take them all away, and people will still thrive and find forms of satisfaction, that will always be equal to Modern Warfare 5 or whatever.
To me this is such a lame line of reasoning, because we adapt. We find beauty, harmony, peace, or whatever you want to call it, wherever we are. Newton alone in a room playing with a prism comes to mind.
I have so many friends that prefer our time in the wilderness living off the land, and cringe at how society is structured so that most people have little choice but to fall in line and feed the machine.
So, yeah, video games, hair dryers, etc... All really cool, but take them all away, and people will still thrive and find forms of satisfaction, that will always be equal to Modern Warfare 5 or whatever.
Well we have all heard the statement in one form or fashion, right?
Science has given us medicine, and even the keypad I am typing on right now.
Where as, what we have been given by believing in God, it is often framed as, myth, fairy tales, wishful thinking, wars, dumbing down of our societies, on and on.
Familiar with everyone? I should hope so?
Some have asked of Christians, "What? Would you rather we drop science altogether and just live on what the bible tells us?"
So, I pondered that for a bit. I reasoned that if the promises of the bible are true, namely, that I will live an eternity in bliss, I'd take that everyday over a keyboard and some medicine that will keep me alive a few more days, months or years.
Science will never keep us alive forever, or end suffering, though in many cases has caused tremendous suffering.
It will of course continue to contribute useful things to the world, but when compared to the promises of the bible, the totality of all of sciences best work, still dwarf to eternal blissful life.
What say you?[/QUOTE
People believe in a God or Gods but use science everyday,science has practical uses but when we look at the most religious God following places on earth it doesn't seem that practical at all IMO.
MattersOfTheHeart
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Generally speaking humans desire more than the simple life though, it is part of our nature, so it shouldn't be surprising when we see societies that seem out of step with biblical advice, right?
Doesn't mean it isn't practical, just that it isn't preferred.
Biblical advise is outdated IMO and the unverified word of a God or gods whereas science is testing if such and such works or not and if it can be proved to do so,how many people are there that have tested a God/s that can present a paper and and answer.
Well we have all heard the statement in one form or fashion, right?
Science has given us medicine, and even the keypad I am typing on right now.
Where as, what we have been given by believing in God, it is often framed as, myth, fairy tales, wishful thinking, wars, dumbing down of our societies, on and on.
Familiar with everyone? I should hope so?
Some have asked of Christians, "What? Would you rather we drop science altogether and just live on what the bible tells us?"
So, I pondered that for a bit. I reasoned that if the promises of the bible are true, namely, that I will live an eternity in bliss, I'd take that everyday over a keyboard and some medicine that will keep me alive a few more days, months or years.
Science will never keep us alive forever, or end suffering, though in many cases has caused tremendous suffering.
It will of course continue to contribute useful things to the world, but when compared to the promises of the bible, the totality of all of sciences best work, still dwarf to eternal blissful life.
What say you?
I say you are right, one dwarfs the other.
Jonathan Swift (17th century English satirist) speaking of the achievements of science and its reflection upon its own laurels. ---- "And he, whose fortunes and dispositions have placed him in a convenient station to enjoy the fruits of this noble art; he that can with Epicurus content his ideas with the films and images that fly-off upon his senses from the superficies of things; such a man truly wise, creams off nature, leaving the sour and the dregs for philosophy and reason to lap up. This is the sublime and refined point of felicity, called, the possession of being well deceived; the serene peaceful state of being a fool among knaves."
My conclusion: some (including many scientists) are trying too hard to pretend there is no reason to look for God because He either does not exist or it's too mysterious.
Or they are two different things,one is reliant on faith and the other on fact
Man of Faith
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Science.
To some God offers and out a way to correct your errors without actually correcting your errors.
God also is an easy explanation. I don't need to know everything I trust in God.
God also offers a fix. If I pray and am worthy I will get my reward.
God also inspires some to do works
God also inspires some to correct there ills
God also helps some to get over loss
God is not without benefits. I have said a few times if you get rid of God you will need a lot more psychologists.
Or engineering
Peace.
Nope.spiritual practice is faith but I can build a boat and have
Actually some Buddhists believe in the spirit and some don't. Most of those on RF seem to not believe in the spirit.
I personally believe in the spirit based on my study of the paranormal and the teachings of the masters I revere. But we'll probably debate that in another thread.
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oldbadger
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Science has given us this and God has given us what?
What say you?
I can only pray that if God bothers to look upon our boastful, arrogant, posturing, self importance, that He will have a sense of humour and decide to repair our planet home, which our 'science' is bringing so near to destruction.
It's technically not science, but greed in an economic system based upon greed. Science only makes available knowledge to creates tools through technology that either can be used for good, or destruction. It doesn't teach values of how to use it.