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Science IS religion

dad

Undefeated
Blasphemy? That is just what happened according to the mythology, didn’t it?
So, either it never happened, or it was lame. Your call.

Ciao

- viole
This quote if from your post..

"He did not die for our sins."
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
This quote if from your post..

"He did not die for our sins."
Thats right. He just took the passover weekend off for our sins. At best. Do you think we should be impressed by that? Are you impressed?

Ciao

- viole
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Origin sciences are belief based so they are religion. Real science has to do with actual knowledge and observations and how the world works now.
I take it that you are not aware of how tired, unsupported and utterly sorry that narrative is?

Frankly, you owe it to yourself not to waste your time like that.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
God used certain material in thins that are alive. Yes building blocks is one way of putting it. You can pretend the article covered details if you like. Then you can avoid discussing or posting support or details of how you think DNA in worms proves humans are related! ha.

Next time don't other spamming links you cannot discuss or support.

i have asked before for your evidence of god magic... I expect that if i ask again you will completely ignore the post so i wont bother.

No pretence, there were details in the snippet i quoted, that you chose to ignore them does not make my post spam, it makes you deliberately ignorant


FYI, the definition of spam : irrelevant or unsolicited messages sent over the Internet, typically to a large number of users, for the purposes of advertising, phishing, spreading malware, etc.

my post was both relevant to the thread and solicited i.e. you asked. It was not advertising, phishing nor did it contain malware. As for large number of users? How many visit this thread. So could you please explain how you warrant serving abuse just because you dont like it?
 

dad

Undefeated
Thats right. He just took the passover weekend off for our sins. At best. Do you think we should be impressed by that? Are you impressed?

Ciao

- viole
As I said, maybe stat a thread on blasphemy. This thread is about the beliefs of science.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
As I said, maybe stat a thread on blasphemy. This thread is about the beliefs of science.

From your point of view, this whole thread started about blasphemy. Necessarily, if you are not just bluffing.

Why? You claim that origins science is also a religion. And since you say a lot of ridiculous things about it, you should be considered blasphemous too. So, why the double standard?

At least, I have some evidence against the ridiculous claims that Jesus sacrificed anything for our sins. Even biblical ones, lol.

Ciao

- viole
 
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dad

Undefeated
i have asked before for your evidence of god magic... I expect that if i ask again you will completely ignore the post so i wont bother
Prophesy, miracles, Resurrection of Christ, millions of people testing Him in the test tube of their lives etc etc You kidding?
No pretence, there were details in the snippet i quoted, that you chose to ignore them does not make my post spam, it makes you deliberately ignorant
Maybe some other poster can glean something from the snippet you quoted and explain it to us?

"
Your evidence?


In a study published last week, the team, led by Assistant Professor of Biology Casey Dunn, used a San Diego supercomputer and new DNA sequencing techniques to establish Acoelomorpha flatworms as our most distant bilateral relatives.

DNA Researchers Prove Human-Flatworm Link

When I look at that I see no details of the sequencing techniques mentioned? I see no mention of HOW whatever they found 'establishes' worms as our relatives!? Come on now. Really?

FYI, the definition of spam : irrelevant or unsolicited messages sent over the Internet, typically to a large number of users, for the purposes of advertising, phishing, spreading malware, etc.
Correct. Links you post in sequence from which you cannot lift out an actual sentence or two or a paragraph or whatever to discuss and look at are spam. Unwanted trash. Irrelevant cut ans pastes. Advertising allusions for your religion...etc. NOT actual points of discussion posted in good faith.
my post was both relevant to the thread and solicited i.e. you asked.
The blustery vague little claim (above in red) was relevant, but nothing more than a story without explanation or meat. Unless, you though the point of debates was to look like your opinion lines up with important people? Ha.
As for large number of users? How many visit this thread. So could you please explain how you warrant serving abuse just because you dont like it?

Maybe more would visit it if you would put something on the table people could think about look at and decide has merit or not! But if I check email for spam to erase I do not ask how many other mailboxes may have been infected! I just push 'spam'!
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
Staff member
Premium Member
I have watched this thread during its brief life and even participated in a very limited way. Having seen it expand to 24 pages now, I think this thread boils down to one thing.

You cannot reason with a plant.

No matter what logic, reason or evidence you provide a plant, the plant will not change.

The irony here is that a religious person is asserting that science is religion and arguing that science can be dismissed, because it is religion. Clearly the person making the assertion considers that religion has no value in the discussion or they would not be demanding the dismissal of arguments based on religion.

That religion has no value in the discussion is the only convincing argument that they have made. Therefore, every statement made based on religion can be dismissed. This includes the assertion that science is religion.

We can all go home now.

I forgot, plants cannot uproot themselves and are stuck where they are until the end.
 

dad

Undefeated
Why? You claim that origins science is also a religion. And since you say a lot of ridiculous things about it, you should be considered blasphemous too.
Flattery will get you nowhere! :)

Unless it is admitted that a large part of what is considered science is indeed religion, then no one can disrespect the religion. The issue is the criminal fraud taking place and the con job and deception. probably I would not find such a belief set worthy to debase and spend time on if it is offered as a belief only. It is too pathetically outrageously ridiculous. I try to respect other beliefs. What is deeply disrespect is a fraud that spits out anti bible anti God anti creation filth in the name of and guise of science.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Prophesy, miracles, Resurrection of Christ, millions of people testing Him in the test tube of their lives etc etc You kidding?
Maybe some other poster can glean something from the snippet you quoted and explain it to us?

"
Your evidence?


In a study published last week, the team, led by Assistant Professor of Biology Casey Dunn, used a San Diego supercomputer and new DNA sequencing techniques to establish Acoelomorpha flatworms as our most distant bilateral relatives.

DNA Researchers Prove Human-Flatworm Link

When I look at that I see no details of the sequencing techniques mentioned? I see no mention of HOW whatever they found 'establishes' worms as our relatives!? Come on now. Really?

Correct. Links you post in sequence from which you cannot lift out an actual sentence or two or a paragraph or whatever to discuss and look at are spam. Unwanted trash. Irrelevant cut ans pastes. Advertising allusions for your religion...etc. NOT actual points of discussion posted in good faith.
The blustery vague little claim (above in red) was relevant, but nothing more than a story without explanation or meat. Unless, you though the point of debates was to look like your opinion lines up with important people? Ha.


Maybe more would visit it if you would put something on the table people could think about look at and decide has merit or not! But if I check email for spam to erase I do not ask how many other mailboxes may have been infected! I just push 'spam'!


Prophesy? Name one validated prophesy
miracles, name one validated miracle
Resurrection of Christ,. Your evidence
The opinion of millions of people is still opinion unless their opinion can be falsified.

So no evidence then but hearsay that you think is cool... Gotya

new DNA sequencing techniques
.
Ring any bells?


Do report me, let s see what admin think of your insulting claim
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Flattery will get you nowhere! :)

Unless it is admitted that a large part of what is considered science is indeed religion, then no one can disrespect the religion. The issue is the criminal fraud taking place and the con job and deception. probably I would not find such a belief set worthy to debase and spend time on if it is offered as a belief only. It is too pathetically outrageously ridiculous. I try to respect other beliefs. What is deeply disrespect is a fraud that spits out anti bible anti God anti creation filth in the name of and guise of science.

Who cares? Of course to say that science is a religion is ridiculous. Even if it were a belief system, we do not knee and pray to Darwin or recite the periodic table of elements.

But according to what you claim, it is. So, either you do not believe that Biblical Scholarship (and things with the same acronym) yourself, or you just have to admit that you are blaspheming, too. Or, last but not least, you are logically incoherent.

Your call.

Ciao

- viole
 
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dad

Undefeated
I have watched this thread during its brief life and even participated in a very limited way. Having seen it expand to 24 pages now, I think this thread boils down to one thing.

You cannot reason with a plant.
Thanks for sharing your amazing deductive powers with us. So Science is not a religion- because you can't reason with one of your imagined distant relatives, a plant!
No matter what logic, reason or evidence you provide a plant, the plant will not change.

The irony here is that a religious person is asserting that science is religion and arguing that science can be dismissed, because it is religion
Hey you can embrace it all you like as a belief. Hug a plant, hug an evo fable...whatever.

. Clearly the person making the assertion considers that religion has no value in the discussion or they would not be demanding the dismissal of arguments based on religion.

A religion must stand on it's own two feet. Good luck with the religion of evolution when you admit is was not science! I suspect it would be relegated to maybe about 401st down in the religions dept!
That religion has no value in the discussion is the only convincing argument that they have made. Therefore, every statement made based on religion can be dismissed. This includes the assertion that science is religion.

The statements at issue here are about origins and offered as if they were science. Once you admit it, yes. Class dismissed.
 

dad

Undefeated
Prophesy? Name one validated prophesy
miracles, name one validated miracle
Resurrection of Christ,. Your evidence
The opinion of millions of people is still opinion unless their opinion can be falsified.

Maybe start a thread on apologetics bashing other beliefs...whatever. This is not a last thursdayism denial thread about history or the bible.
 

dad

Undefeated
Who cares? Of course to say that science is a religion is ridiculous. Even if it were a belief system, we do not knee and pray to Darwin or recite the periodic table of elements.
Worship need not involve those things. People worship money for example and we do not see them bowing. The question is what we respect and put above other things.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
You don't know what I know! :)

I do. Just as you are skeptical about what scientists know, I can be skeptical about what you know. And if I can't know, what you know, then it is subjective in you and not about the world as such.
Don't play knowledge with a global skeptic. :)
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Lu 4:4 - And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Ac 4:31 - And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.

So did you think that when they spoke the word of God that meant making stuff up, or preaching Scripture?

Thank you for supporting my correction of your error. Those weak passages do not even define what the "word of God" is. It clearly does not say that the Bible is the word of God and in fact it could not be the Bible if you think about it logically. Once again dad defeats himself.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Maybe start a thread on apologetics bashing other beliefs...whatever. This is not a last thursdayism denial thread about history or the bible.


Its not? Wow you surprise me, most of your posts shout last Thursdayism.

You wrote the OP, sorry if you dont like the way your OP is panning out
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Lie. Science peddles stories about where this universe and life came from..in great detail.

You should inform yourself.

I repeat, there is at present no theory on the origins of the universe or the origins of life.

Note the word theory. There are a couple of hypothesis, some of them promising, but nothing conclusive.

Not that neither big bang theory nore evolution theory, are theories of origins.
 
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