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Science IS religion

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
If there was or was not a change science wouldn't know. They just believe and reject history and the bible for n reason.

Why wouldn't it be detectable? You can't just make bogus claims and run away. You need to support your nonsense.

Try again.

EDIT: Why do you believe that God lied?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
"the theory of evolution are so well supported by evidence" LOLOLOLOLOLOL sorry i meant, BWAHAAHAHAHAHA. Cool story bro

It appears that your science education ended in elementary school. You probably do not even understand the concept of evidence. I will gladly go over the basics with you and then we can move on from there.

There is a reason that creationists lose every court case that they are in. It has nothing to do with judicial prejudice. The fact is that all of the evidence is on the side of evolution.
 

dad

Undefeated
Why wouldn't it be detectable?

Why does science not even know what causes nature and forces today, such as the strong nuclear force? Why is science incapable of telling us what laws and forces were like in the past? Don't blame me, either they are or are not capable. Why can't they detect spirits? Did you think noting could exist beyond the very limited powers and abilities of physical only, present nature science to detect??
 

dad

Undefeated
It appears that your science education ended in elementary school. You probably do not even understand the concept of evidence. I will gladly go over the basics with you and then we can move on from there.

There is a reason that creationists lose every court case that they are in. It has nothing to do with judicial prejudice. The fact is that all of the evidence is on the side of evolution.
Demon loving judges?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Why does science not even know what causes nature and forces today, such as the strong nuclear force? Why is science incapable of telling us what laws and forces were like in the past? Don't blame me, either they are or are not capable. Why can't they detect spirits? Did you think noting could exist beyond the very limited powers and abilities of physical only, present nature science to detect??

We know because events leave evidence. You are talking about a massive event. It should leave massive evidence.

When you make a claim you need to be able to support it. Shifting the burden of proof is simply an acknowledgement that you are wrong.
 

dad

Undefeated
No, just showing you how your "defense" of your "different state past" is....
Try to get a grip. I need not defend beliefs in this thread. Think of it like shopping in a candy store with a child...I need not pay in solid gold, though I might have some. This thread is the candy store where the poor little believers in the underlying basis and beliefs of origin sciences must pay for their claims with evidence. It is not a place where all currency and beliefs are discussed.

You had one quest and failed, and that was to support the same state past nature used in actual models of the past by so called science. You have confirmed it is mere beliefs by your repeated fail.

You're making the unfalsifiable claim and then asking us to disprove it. As if that means something.
The claim discussed here is that science claims a same state past on earth, and uses that in all models! Focus.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Try to get a grip. I need not defend beliefs in this thread. Think of it like shopping in a candy store with a child...I need not pay in solid gold, though I might have some. This thread is the candy store where the poor little believers in the underlying basis and beliefs of origin sciences must pay for their claims with evidence. It is not a place where all currency and beliefs are discussed.

You had one quest and failed, and that was to support the same state past nature used in actual models of the past by so called science. You have confirmed it is mere beliefs by your repeated fail.

The claim discussed here is that science claims a same state past on earth, and uses that in all models! Focus.
That is wrong. Once again if you cannot defend your beliefs and try to shift the burden of proof you are admitting that you are wrong.

And I gave evidence to you that there was no such change. You have no response except denial. Once again that was a tacit admission that you were wrong. Don't make false claims about others.
 

dad

Undefeated
We know because events leave evidence. You are talking about a massive event. It should leave massive evidence.
There is no lack of evidence. The continental separation, fossil record, history, Scripture, and etc etc etc. The only issue is the beliefs used in interpreting evidences. You smear it all with same state past belief. Dunk it. Submerge it. Spray it. Coat it. Then you submit it to religious peers for review to make sure it is very well tainted and colored.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
There is no lack of evidence. The continental separation, fossil record, history, Scripture, and etc etc etc. The only issue is the beliefs used in interpreting evidences. You smear it all with same state past belief. Dunk it. Submerge it. Spray it. Coat it. Then you submit it to religious peers for review to make sure it is very well tainted and colored.

That evidence only supports what you call the "fish bowl". The problem is that you do not understand the concept of evidence and appear to be afraid to learn. Judges are experts in the concept of evidence. They have to be. It is sort of a requirement. They understand that there is no evidence for your myths. They can smell BS a mile away and that is why creationist always lose.

Would you like to discuss the nature of evidence?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
They do not love the unborn children that they order assassinated.

Nope, that is a lie.

First off according to even the Bible they are not "children". If you read it and understand it a person is not a person until after birth according to the Bible. Second the Bible supports abortion. In specific cases a husband can get an abortion for his wife in the Bible (she of course has no say in the matter since the Bible treats women as property).
 

dad

Undefeated
Nope, that is a lie.

First off according to even the Bible they are not "children". If you read it and understand it a person is not a person until after birth according to the Bible. Second the Bible supports abortion. In specific cases a husband can get an abortion for his wife in the Bible (she of course has no say in the matter since the Bible treats women as property).
I do not usually participate in discussions of child sacrifice, as I am not for it, so there is no possible discussion, period. (especially in a science thread). That is just a matter of people making choices and standing before God one day with them.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I do not usually participate in discussions of child sacrifice, as I am not for it, so there is no possible discussion, period. (especially in a science thread). That is just a matter of people making choices and standing before God one day with them.

There is no child sacrifice. You seem to be rather confused. But as to abortion the Bible is more pro-abortion than anti-abortion. Since your version of God supposedly wrote it that would indicate that your God is pro-abortion.
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
Try to get a grip. I need not defend beliefs in this thread. Think of it like shopping in a candy store with a child...I need not pay in solid gold, though I might have some. This thread is the candy store where the poor little believers in the underlying basis and beliefs of origin sciences must pay for their claims with evidence. It is not a place where all currency and beliefs are discussed.

You had one quest and failed, and that was to support the same state past nature used in actual models of the past by so called science. You have confirmed it is mere beliefs by your repeated fail.

The claim discussed here is that science claims a same state past on earth, and uses that in all models! Focus.
You are stuck in the tower of babel aren't you with your ranting of meaningless statements. You cant defend your beliefs so you make false statements about everyone else. There is no exchange of ideas here for you only your preaching with your closed mind. "You had one quest and failed"? That is a clear statement about yourself. "Same state past on earth and uses that in all models" = babel. "poor little believers" = babel. And on and on and on.
 

dad

Undefeated
You are stuck in the tower of babel aren't you with your ranting of meaningless statements.
Not at all, why would I be stuck in some historical event, even if it was significant?


You cant defend your beliefs so you make false statements about everyone else.
False statement.

Rather than cry us a river, try to defend your pseudo science. Haha
 

dad

Undefeated
More babel.
Not sure why you are stuck on Babel. Maybe it impressed you? Maybe science has no clue about it?

Since you keep mentioning it, I might as well share some juicy tid bits about it. Since the time of the nature change probably coincided with the tower of Babel, that means that mountain building/uplift/continental separation etc probably came after this time or around that time. This would likely mean that the site of the actual tower was plowed miles under! That may be why you can't find it today! That would also mean that men speaking different languages got moved around the world on the continents, as well as animals and etc, explaining fossil migrations, and how the animals got all over after the time of the flood. This would also explain the origin of the major world religions!
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Not sure why you are stuck on Babel. Maybe it impressed you? Maybe science has no clue about it?

Since you keep mentioning it, I might as well share some juicy tid bits about it. Since the time of the nature change probably coincided with the tower of Babel, that means that mountain building/uplift/continental separation etc probably came after this time or around that time. This would likely mean that the site of the actual tower was plowed miles under! That may be why you can't find it today! That would also mean that men speaking different languages got moved around the world on the continents, as well as animals and etc, explaining fossil migrations, and how the animals got all over after the time of the flood. This would also explain the origin of the major world religions!
And yet there is no one iota of evidence for this occurrence. How odd.

Tell me why should anyone believe this nonsense?
 
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