Science or Religion?

[firedragon]

How so?

Do you think that science and religion are THE two options? I know that many think this, but can you explain why?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Man in man as natural heritage. Man says he is two of. A human first and a man secondly.

As you have to own thinking to describe yourself first.

Did thinking happen after eating of the fruit of knowledge of good and evil?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Do you think that science and religion are THE two options? I know that many think this, but can you explain why?

In the context of the Governors talk, she emphasizes the God contribution and the Science contribution and the willing vaccinated, but it is true that God is the common denominator so I suppose you could say everyone did God's billing except the unvaxed!

 

[rational experiences]

Did thinking happen after eating of the fruit of knowledge of good and evil?

No.

God states are good.

Thinking was to seek knowledge of good and evil.

Men said it was the females fault. In science mother space maths was their thesis. They blamed it for being wrong thoughts.

Man however sought it. Science blamed maths for giving them the wrong answers. Father consciousness words already told them they were wrong.

They confessed. They did not listen.

They being men. They never was a man and woman as both were innocent of knowing evil.

Sex was never any sin it was natural.

The sin of man was science.

 

[firedragon]

In the context of the Governors talk, she emphasizes the God contribution and the Science contribution and the willing vaccinated, but it is true that God is the common denominator so I suppose you could say everyone did God's billing except the unvaxed!

Sorry but I dont see the relevance.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

No.

God states are good.

Thinking was to seek knowledge of good and evil.

Men said it was the females fault. In science mother space maths was their thesis. They blamed it for being wrong thoughts.

Man however sought it. Science blamed maths for giving them the wrong answers. Father consciousness words already told them they were wrong.

They confessed. They did not listen.

They being men. They never was a man and woman as both were innocent of knowing evil.

Sex was never any sin it was natural.

The sin of man was science.

The word 'science' just means knowledge, Sir Isaac Newton was a scientist and very devoted to God. But somewhere along the way atheism crept in and is missing the Divine guidance.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Sorry but I dont see the relevance.

Perhaps that is because I could not see the relevance of your comment imagining I thought there were only two options, and tried to introduce the larger context.

 

[rational experiences]

Perhaps that is because I could not see the relevance of your comment imagining I thought there were only tow options, and tried to introduce the larger context.

Tow options?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Tow options?

Thank you I'll fix it.

 

[firedragon]

Perhaps that is because I could not see the relevance of your comment imagining I thought there were only two options, and tried to introduce the larger context.

I didnt tell you there were only two options.

So that is too irrelevant.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

I didnt tell you there were only two options.

So that is too irrelevant.

Fine, just reconsider my reply to you minus the 'only' before 'two options'.

 

[firedragon]

Fine, just reconsider my reply to you minus the 'only' before 'two options'.

Sure.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Tow options?

See, just as well you caught that, I fixed it and the 'two options' was quoted. Now that was God at work preempting!

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Do you think the Governor is correct, that God chose and directed the smart scientists to find the appropriate vaccine, and guide all the smart people to have the vaccine, and that those who don't have it are not listening to Him?

Thanks, and no. It's a generalization really. "You know who they are" for example turns this into a political statement and campaign and uses religion to further divide.

There's a verse that says God isn't the author of confusion. It sounds more like she's using people's beliefs to solidify believing taking the vaccine is a good thing. In my opinion cult like method.

I don't see/wouldn't see God taking sides on whether one should vaccinate and whose listening to God.

If going by NT and if Jesus is god, God really didn't like political influences in his message. Why would this be different?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Thanks, and no. It's a generalization really. "You know who they are" for example turns this into a political statement and campaign and uses religion to further divide.

There's a verse that says God isn't the author of confusion. It sounds more like she's using people's beliefs to solidify believing taking the vaccine is a good thing. In my opinion cult like method.

I don't see/wouldn't see God taking sides on whether one should vaccinate and whose listening to God.

If going by NT and if Jesus is god, God really didn't like political influences in his message. Why would this be different?

Well I agree more or less with what you're saying, what was it we were arguing about?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Well I agree more or less with what you're saying, what was it we were arguing about?

Your OP wasn't clear enough. But given the context of the video if outside politics it's just getting believers rallied to do gods work.

I personally disagree with the method. The pope did pretty much the same.

To be honest, I don't know much topics that would go in this thread. Most I see is things like evolution.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Absolutely, no one is saying that, but I honestly do not believe what the Governor is saying also.

She’s a politician, so yeah, probably best to consider her argument in that context.

Like all politicians, she’s trying to influence and persuade people to behave in a certain way, because she believes she knows what’s best for them. And perhaps she does.

Politicians in Europe very rarely evoke God to support their causes. On balance, I consider that the wisest approach, for a number of reasons.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Your OP wasn't clear enough. But given the context of the video if outside politics it's just getting believers rallied to do gods work.

I personally disagree with the method. The pope did pretty much the same.

To be honest, I don't know much topics that would go in this thread. Most I see is things like evolution.

After watching the video, I'm inclined to think the end times is nigh..(presuming the translation is accurate), not because I have any fear of covid, but because I think the nwo wannabes are making their play to dictate what is reality to all the peoples of the world. This is prophecy coming true....

 

[Ben Dhyan]

She’s a politician, so yeah, probably best to consider her argument in that context.

Like all politicians, she’s trying to influence and persuade people to behave in a certain way, because she believes she knows what’s best for them. And perhaps she does.

Politicians in Europe very rarely evoke God to support their causes. On balance, I consider that the wisest approach, for a number of reasons.

Agreed...

 

[Mock Turtle]

The Governor apparently think thinks it is both?

Sorry, didn't view the video. But not an either, or, and situation. Some people apparently believe that a religious belief is necessary in their lives whilst many others don't. They might both appreciate science for what it is, and even give credence to religions for some positive things. Many of us believe that the latter can be obtained elsewhere and that religions also bring along with them too many negative affects so as to be a danger for humans.