Science vs God.

[George-ananda]

Technology and science isnt the same thing, though. Science at its core isnt about newer fancier material things, its about understanding the wonders of the universe. Some people may use it to create new fancy things, though.

Yes, I am aware of and agree with what you say.

My point was God/Religion/Spiritual Practice teach me to control the space between my two ears and find peace and contentment. And that's more important to me than learning about the things beyond my ears.

 

[Thief]

I also see energy flow everywhere. Perhaps we're not so different afterall.

excuse me.... but your question was more to point than not.
Energy cannot be destroyed....I've heard the same thing....years ago.
Nowadays I hear that sum of energy we can be sure of does not account for all of the effects going on.
So now there's talk of dark energy and dark matter.
Some say it's more than all that we have seen so far.

How do they know?.....not having lab experiments to show for it....
They claim the effect of such stuff is all around us.

Kinda like saying.....there is the universe....and the cause can't be seen.

Figures....right?

 

[Kerr]

Yes, I am aware of and agree with what you say.

My point was God/Religion/Spiritual Practice teach me to control the space between my two ears and find peace and contentment. And that's more important to me than learning about the things beyond my ears.

Ok, I understand. Thought you meant just iphones and things like that (which I dont care that much about, even if I love science and technology, lol).

 

[Straw Dog]

Figures....right?

Yeah, I guess some things are beyond our current comprehension. We could speculate wildly with abstract notions or utilize poetic expressions for that which is imperceptible, but we still don't really know. It is possible that I simply do not understand theology, however. The closest that I've come is with accepting life as if it were a gift, but this still seems more like metaphor rather than theology. I can dig the aesthetic appeal, but I won't pretend to know.

 

[fallingblood]

Because God has never been used to horrible ends? Science is objective, people can just do it incorrectly. Subjective beliefs do not change scientific discovery.

Never said that God has never been used to horrible ends. It doesn't have to be an either or deal. Neither does science and religion have to be opposed.

However, the fact is that science, regardless of being objective, have been used by some people for horrible ends. Yes, religion has also been used for the same sort of ends, but it does not negate the fact that science also has been.

 

[ChristineES]

(Fallingblood):Never said that God has never been used to horrible ends. It doesn't have to be an either or deal. Neither does science and religion have to be opposed.

God doesn't lead to horrible ends- sometimes the belief in God can lead to horrible ends. This is true whether one believes in a benevolent God- who would not see their God do anything horrible things (in their own eyes) or if someone doesn't believe in God- who doesn't believe that what they see as imaginary being doing anything at all.

Science itself certainly doesn't lead to horrible ends, but sometimes some of the discoveries made, such as splitting atoms, can lead to building things (like an atom bomb). The atom bomb itself isn't evil, but people who use might be- and cause mass destruction.

 

[StarryNightshade]

Both are used for different reasons, but both are (in my humble opinion, anyway) beneficial when handled properly.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Between Science and God which one could be the greater benefit to humankind ?

Human science is a subset of Omniscience...in logic, it is not logical to compare a subset of the universal set with the absolute.

 

[chinu]

Based on that definition, is God simply conscious awareness or a supernatural entity which created the energy of our universe?

God itself is the energy with two sides negative and positive. Positive side is He himself, where as negative side is its whole creation. Positive side is fully conscious and aware of himself, where as negative side is unconscious and unaware of himself.

As we are "His" unconscious creation, thus.. we can call him as supernatural entity.

 

[chinu]

I also see energy flow everywhere. Perhaps we're not so different afterall.

Romeo was crazy for juliet, rather than any other girl.
Do you know which energy flow was not letting romeo to go crazy for any other girl ?

 

[chinu]

Human science is a subset of Omniscience...in logic, it is not logical to compare a subset of the universal set with the absolute.

Yes, it is not logical to compare a subset of the universal set with the absolute. Afterall, ABOSOLUTE is ABOSOLUTE! not small thing

Thus, abosolute is absolutely benifitial for humankind, Right ?

 

[Gjallarhorn]

God itself is the energy with two sides negative and positive. Positive side is He himself, where as negative side is its whole creation. Positive side is fully conscious and aware of himself, where as negative side is unconscious and unaware of himself.

As we are "His" unconscious creation, thus.. we can call him as supernatural entity.

In that case, science.

 

[chinu]

In that case, science.

In which case Science is Not, you thought ?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Yes, it is not logical to compare a subset of the universal set with the absolute. Afterall, ABOSOLUTE is ABOSOLUTE! not small thing

Thus, abosolute is absolutely benifitial for humankind, Right ?

Absolutely...

 

[Gjallarhorn]

In which case Science is Not, you thought ?

If God were simply a name for conscious awareness, it could take credit for the developments brought about by humanity and science. If God is simply a creator of matter and energy, then it's like claiming a monkey created art by flinging poo at a wall.

 

[chinu]

If God were simply a name for conscious awareness, it could take credit for the developments brought about by humanity and science. If God is simply a creator of matter and energy, then it's like claiming a monkey created art by flinging poo at a wall.

Than humans are just like micro-organism in that poo.

 

[Semjase]

Everything evolved from the vacuum nothing the original creator was first to evolve and
created universes and designed life, science gives intelligence and quality of life.
What good is a man to himself with all god and no intelligence? The religious God
is a God of law and not of science. A God of science is the highest God.

 

[LuisDantas]

To put it bluntly, science is necessary and of unquestionable worth.

Not so with God, except perhaps for specific people.

 

[chinu]

Everything evolved from the vacuum nothing the original creator was first to evolve and created universes and designed life,

If God would would have shown you.. How he created everything, than you would have knowed God very easily, But he want you to do some hard efforts to know Him.
Thus, indeed all this is the reason behind your ignorance.

science gives intelligence and quality of life. What good is a man to himself with all god and no intelligence?

Parents give quality of life and intelligence to their childrens, Thus, what's the use such an egoistic intelligence which take-away our childhood ?

The religious God is a God of law and not of science. A God of science is the highest God.

The word "God" itself means, the highest of all.

 

[chinu]

To put it bluntly, science is necessary and of unquestionable worth.

Not so with God, except perhaps for specific people.

Which specific people are you talking about ? luis.