Thief
Rogue Theologian
step on up with a handfull of evidence or proof
cat got your tongue
Wish you knew how to use yours.
Faith needs no proving.
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scientific and faith
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Wish you knew how to use yours.
Faith needs no proving.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
McBell
Unbound
dusty though they will be...
outhouse
Atheistically
thing is, i bet he discounts the thousands of deitys before his deity. Somehow his is magically the one true god.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
outhouse
Atheistically
Skepsis2
Member
I get the message from the OP that the question is really how scientists religious beliefs have changed over time.
Ive skimmed the thread and havent really seen anyone provide an answer or opinion for the question.
Very briefly, as technology progresses over time the people doing science find that new evidence brought about by the advanced technology sometimes conflicts with their previously held beliefs. This usually results in either the modification of the scientists beliefs or ignoring the evidence. This would be more pronounced in biology and astronomy than in say, chemistry. Committed scientists would tend to modify their religious beliefs than to ignore evidence, hence you end up with fewer scientists with fundamental religious views. The numbers or charts would differ depending on whose gathering the statistics and for what reason. IMHO.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Let's try again, shall we?
Can you show that "spirit" is a necessity of life?
Can you point out "spirit" to anyone?
Or can you admit it is only a belief without empirical evidence?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Thief
Rogue Theologian
no, last time I checked I was still a homo sapien.
could see myself in a mirror to LOL
What a poor view of natural anatomy
None the less....a lump of clay.
More than ape?....maybe not...that's made of clay as well.
outhouse
Atheistically
you should use that intellect and take a science class.
you might learn the body is mostly salt water
none of it is made of clay
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Can you show that "spirit" is a necessity of life?
Can you point out "spirit" to anyone?
Let's see...
Pure clay is made of Silica, Alumina, and one of three different metals (Potassium, Sodium or Lithium)
The chemical composition of the human body is Oxygen, Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Calcium, Phosphorus, Potassium, Sulfur, Chlorine, Sodium, Magnesium, Iron, Cobalt, Copper, Zinc, Iodine, Selenium and Fluorine.
There is no Silica or Alumina in a healthy human body.:foot:
Now, are you ready to admit the existence of "spirit" is only a belief without empirical evidence?
Thief, have you heard of the concept of a philosophical zombie? It is an interesting exercise.
In a nutshell, what do you think we would end up with if a normal human lost his spirit? Can one even notice that it happened? Do spirits even exist at all?
It is hardly reasonable to insist that others believe in something which leaves no trace whatsoever of its existence.
In a nutshell, what do you think we would end up with if a normal human lost his spirit? Can one even notice that it happened? Do spirits even exist at all?
It is hardly reasonable to insist that others believe in something which leaves no trace whatsoever of its existence.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
You guys!
Denial.... denial.... denial....
All the while you rebuttal....with such spirit!
....bit shallow of thought and short sighted...but very spirited.
And I happen to love science....
And you all know what is meant by...'clay'.
If you want me to treat you as if intelligent.....admit you are more than dust...or clay.
Denial.... denial.... denial....
All the while you rebuttal....with such spirit!
....bit shallow of thought and short sighted...but very spirited.
And I happen to love science....
And you all know what is meant by...'clay'.
If you want me to treat you as if intelligent.....admit you are more than dust...or clay.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
No, we don't. Clay is clay.
Nor is "clay" a Biblical reference. It is Qur'anic.
If you want to be treated as intelligent, don't make statements like "admit you are more than dust...or clay", as neither is an accurate description of biological life.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Well then...clever boy....take your pick what ever you are made of.
And that lump is going to answer me..... as a chemical reaction?
'bang'
You can't possibly expect people to just accept statements at face value, regardless of how poorly they fit with observable fact, now can you?